@HonkHonkBoom sadly, like a lot of things he seemed to have stepped into a trap on that one. He signed an EO to have military members that refused a shot reinstated.
Also, he appointed RFKjr who has been vocal about wanting to ask questions.
@sickburnbro The Orange Faggot "Father of the Vaccine" gave y'all AIDS? Maybe if they hadn't been allowed to skip all the safety trials by warpspeed, somebody might have noticed, eh?
@Turdicus@sickburnbro@jeffcliff He has plenty of them. He still affirms validity of sources that he should scrutinize further due to their motives. It will click eventually for him, I reckon.
@jeffcliff@amerika Amerika is defederated from Poast for shit stirring or something, idk. Regardless, I have always maintained that COVID was real and the vaccine was bad. Later strands past beta/delta seemed to ditch the weird clotting and inflammation stuff iirc.
@BowsacNoodle already covered this when @amerika brought it up. this is a *hypothesis generating study* it is not some kind of smoking gun of anything, and of course antivaxxers are going to seize it and pretend that there's something there that isn't without fully embracing the consequences (ie that covid is real, that the vaccine helped, that long covid is real, etc)
@jeffcliff@BowsacNoodle@sickburnbro
>The impact of COVID-19 vaccination programmes was determined by estimating the additional lives lost if no vaccines had been distributed.
>estimated
>made up
IOW, they just pulled shit out of their asses and idiots like you fell for it. No, show me one single case of one real individual with a name that would have died from covid but didn't because of the clot shit.
@BowsacNoodle@sickburnbro@jeffcliff he'll say something about how it saved a billion lives so the pain and suffering of a few is worth it. even though there's exactly zero evidence even one life was spared due to the clot shot, or even one case of covid was prevent.
@wishgranter14@BowsacNoodle@sickburnbro Yeah there's a difference between estimating based on the properties of the disease before/after vaccination and making shit up, but continue to make up baseless accusations
>f one real individual with a name that would have died from covid but didn't because of the clot shit.
that's not how vaccines work - you *can't know* who will die of measles without the MMR either doesn't mean it won't save childrens lives if they are saved from measles by it
@jeffcliff@BowsacNoodle@sickburnbro
If you know anything about statistics, which you obviously don't, then you would know how easy it is to fudge the numbers. It's all about assumptions. If you gave me access to a research facility and some scientists who could perform a similar study, they would find that the statistics show nobody was saved by the clot shot. Because that's the assumption I would have them working with.
But go on, and tell me how statistics work.
@jeffcliff@sickburnbro@wishgranter14 measles is interesting. How is it that we (Europeans) had less problems with it than American Indians? Did those with incompatible immune systems simply die off at a young age in Europe and the Americas didn't have that filter?
OK let's see about this. Can you tell, based on the dice in front of me, if I roll it 1,000 times, how many times it will turn up "1" if you know that it has 20 sides and is roughly equally weighted? Or do you have no idea whatsoever
What if i roll it 100,000 times? How many times will "1" come up, give or take?
@wishgranter14@BowsacNoodle@sickburnbro And if I roll it 100,000 times and it turns up "1" only 5 times, would you agree that this dice is loaded or can you not make that kind of conclusion because you need me to be able to predict it fully in order to know what it's coming up with next
@jeffcliff@amerika They absolutely did. Alpha was the really bad clotting issues. Delta or whatever came after had them too and pneumonia. Omnicron was definitely more respiratory than tissue inflammation.
@BowsacNoodle@sickburnbro@wishgranter14 Oh yeah, measles over a *long* period of time those most suceptible to measles may have been weeded out on the european side but measles is still a killer in unvaccinated europeans
@jeffcliff@sickburnbro@wishgranter14 Growing up, the narrative was "we had some immunity and they didn't". Some point in the 90s or early 00s the meme about intentional smallpox and measles blankets was a thing. Obviously people die from measles, but obviously we had some population level tolerance for it not present in Amerindians.
and if we let covid run rampant for a couple centuries some species will develop some resistance to it. at the cost of billions of lives and brains damaged...if it doesn't wipe out kingdom mammalia entirely
>Can you tell, based on the dice in front of me, if I roll it 1,000 times, how many times it will turn up "1" if you know that it has 20 sides and is roughly equally weighted? No. Singular form of dice is die, and you haven't told us which markings your die uses.
Can you tell us how many "positives" were saved in retirement homes versus a hospital ship?