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   Keira (She/Her) (keira_reckons@aus.social)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 21:49:23 JST Keira (She/Her)

   I have a relative who has had her credit card details stolen on so many occassions that we've lost count.

   She clicks every email link. She signs up to "tarot of the day" and "spirit guide" text message scams. She buys things like the GeoCleanse. She's been in MLMs and near-cults. She's never met a grift she didn't fall for.

   No amount of user training is ever going to get through to this person.

   She'll lose her whole life savings before she takes a moment to imagine that an email from her own personal fairy guide *might* be some sort of scam.

   It is tempting to say that if you're silly enough, you deserve what you get. But it isn't true. People who make poor decisions need protection too.

   This is who I imagine when I imagine the user who needs protection.

   We need regulation.

   #security #scams #woowoo #infosec

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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Monday, 03-Feb-2025 21:49:22 JST djsumdog

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     Trying to protect all of society from the lowest common denominator often makes everything worse for people trying to exert control over their own lives.
     
     You cannot protect people from their own bad decisions without putting them in prison.
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     sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 00:19:31 JST sapphire

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     @djsumdog @keira_reckons go figure the first response on “my aunt can’t stop getting scammed” is the local jeet saying you can’t protect everyone so just let her get scammed lmao
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 00:19:31 JST djsumdog

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     "local jeet" .. I'm an American. I've always been an American, a legal one at that. The last time I was in India was in the 90s, as a Christian missionary.

     You immediately bring my race into things instead of addressing any part of an actual argument. What a fucking horrible response, from what I can only assume is a total pathetic piece of shit. Fuck you and whatever the fuck kind of person is obsessed with viewing everything through the lens of my race. It's everything I fucking hate about Fedi.

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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 00:19:36 JST Johnny Peligro

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     • sapphire
     @sapphire @keira_reckons @djsumdog how'd you deal with this in a way that doesn't result in a more annoting internet?
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     sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 00:20:46 JST sapphire

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     @mischievoustomato @keira_reckons @djsumdog pay your $5000 tax for your IP then
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     skylar :confederateflag:??? :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 00:20:46 JST skylar :confederateflag:??? :z:

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     @sapphire @keira_reckons @djsumdog @mischievoustomato good job retard now the only things left online are big corporate platforms that ban you for saying gamer words
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 00:20:47 JST Johnny Peligro

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     • sapphire
     @sapphire @keira_reckons @djsumdog it's over. i just want personal services
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 00:20:48 JST Johnny Peligro

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     • sapphire
     @sapphire @keira_reckons @djsumdog makes shit easier for self hosting
     t. under cgnat
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     sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 00:20:48 JST sapphire

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     @mischievoustomato @keira_reckons @djsumdog >makes it easier for third world brown people to self-host
     
     This is exactly what we’re trying to prevent retard
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 00:20:49 JST Johnny Peligro

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     • sapphire
     @sapphire @keira_reckons @djsumdog nyoooo
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     sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 00:20:49 JST sapphire

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     @mischievoustomato @keira_reckons @djsumdog why do you need quadrillions of addresses for rich white people only to have internet access
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 00:20:50 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @sapphire @keira_reckons @djsumdog what about ipv6
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     sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 00:20:50 JST sapphire

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     @mischievoustomato @keira_reckons @djsumdog banned
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     sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 00:20:51 JST sapphire

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     @mischievoustomato @keira_reckons @djsumdog 5000 dollar tax on purchasing or transferring a public ipv4 address
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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:11:59 JST Owl

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     • sapphire
     Of course you'll be judged by the lens of your race m8, we're all tribalists at our core. People are just surprised when White people express it, because it's never seen outside the internet except in rare cases because White tribalism is verboten.
     
     If you were in real life, the other people would be doing this exact same thing to you. Don't take it too seriously. These people consider you an American just as much as they would consider me one. They don't.
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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:22:41 JST Owl

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     Coming from someone whose father was scammed, by Qtards of all people, this is a very bad statement.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:22:41 JST djsumdog

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     How would you have fixed the situation? Is there anything your father could have been taught to avoid being scammed? Does he realize he was scammed?
     
     OP has a family member who literally doesn't seem like they can learn at all.
     
     Scamming sucks and even people who know better can fall victim. It's best if you can go after the scammer or limit your losses. But you have to balance individual responsibility in there somewhere. Yes, a functional government does its best to stop criminals, but if someone cannot learn from their mistakes, how does society fix that? Can there be a fix that?
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:28:45 JST djsumdog

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     It sucks and it's not fair, but people who advance themselves at the misfortune of others has existed since humanity.
     
     Like you can have a credit card company give you a call, "We see a flagged charge for $5,000 to the Church of Scientology," but if the person on the other end says, "No, that's not fraudulent," what more can be done.
     
     Would it have been possible to legally stop those hostile elements before they targeted your father?
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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:28:46 JST Owl

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     It's not my father's fault he was vulnerable to hostile elements, those hostile elements should have never been created or be here to have done that to him.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:32:47 JST djsumdog

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     • Johnny Peligro
     I ignore most of it. I never blocked anyone on Fedi from 2018 until 2023. You can only take so much ya know. And some of those fucks are crazy obsessed and constantly post screenshots and shit. It's really fucking weird and stalkerish.
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:32:48 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @keira_reckons @djsumdog @sapphire I really hate to see this because he's a really cool dude 😔
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     CEO of Monoeye Dating (ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:32:49 JST CEO of Monoeye Dating

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     @djsumdog @keira_reckons @sapphire In principle I agree with both of the posts you made in this thread.
     
     Unfortunately you shoved your mouth full of the fucking bait so hard that it's impossible to defend you. :reimu_sigh:
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:33:17 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @djsumdog @keira_reckons @Owl it's a very contrived game of cat and mouse and I'm not intelligent enough to come up with a way to deal with this.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:33:43 JST djsumdog

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     Then what's the right attitude? What's your solution(s)?
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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:33:44 JST Owl

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     >It sucks and it's not fair, but people who advance themselves at the misfortune of others has existed since humanity.
     
     That's an immensely bad attitude.
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:41:48 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @Owl @keira_reckons @djsumdog Hm, text is very monotone, and I prefer if things aren't sugarcoated. Feels fake!
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:41:49 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @Owl @keira_reckons @djsumdog But it's an actual fact. There's a myriad things that could be tried to deal with that, but you can't eradicate it (from what I know, at least). Personal responsibility is the key to this, imo.
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:41:49 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @Owl @djsumdog @keira_reckons I think a lot of people somehow misunderstand what djsumdog says as a "it happens, get fucked", instead of "it happens, so you have to protect yourself/who you care about"
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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:41:49 JST Owl

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     No I agree but it's the way he's saying it.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:44:02 JST djsumdog

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     Yea I'm not sure about "the way" I'm saying things. I mean, I'm not hardcore libertarian where they're all about the personal responsibility. There are a lot of things that are difficult, if not impossible, to deal with at an individual level.
     
     There are benefits to societies and governments, but they can also turn into huge detriments if those entities aren't small, narrow and targeted.
     
     It's a difficult problem. I'll admit my attitude might be shitty if you can provide a better alternative take.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:47:18 JST djsumdog

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     And there are situations where you have to put mom or dad into a conservatorship if their mind starts going and shitty family members come out of the woodwork to take advantage of them. At the same time, those can also be used to control and exploit family members if you can convince or bribe a judge to give you that control (famously the Britney Spears case). It's a pretty delicate balance.
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     CEO of Monoeye Dating (ceo_of_monoeye_dating@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:47:19 JST CEO of Monoeye Dating

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     @mischievoustomato @keira_reckons @djsumdog @Owl Yeah, I agree with this.
     
     You have to make sure there's a balance. Right now the balance looks something like "if you realize you got scammed in a week or two, and you call the bank, you can usually get out OK." That's a pretty good balance for most people: it lets grandkids keep their naive Grandma and Grandpa safe from stupid shit when they notice it, and it keeps people from having to deal with way too much bullshit in their daily lives.
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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:47:20 JST Owl

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     But it doesn't mean we don't try just because people should look out for themselves.
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:47:20 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @Owl @keira_reckons @djsumdog definitely, but I think it should be secondary to actual personal education, because you can trip into "whoops gave the government more censorship power" kinda stuff.
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 01:47:21 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @djsumdog @keira_reckons @Owl people need an immune system. No amount of protections can truly protect people other than themselves. And... my mom got scammed, well, thru my sister. It sucks, I knew it was a scam, but welp, wasn't listened to.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:05:29 JST djsumdog

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     What the fuck are you even talking about? I was a missionary in the 90s! I take no issues with Christians today, but I'm not a "christcuck." Where exactly would I deported to? My home nation? America? A country I literally came back to after having full a work/residence visa for New Zealand?
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     xenodemon (xenodemon@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:05:30 JST xenodemon

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     @djsumdog @keira_reckons @sapphire as though the church is about anything other the Christ. Christcucks and libtards can be deported with the rest of them. you'll be happies their too, not being around all this toxic white pride. go on a perpetual mission to spreed the world of the processive church in the middle of some Catholics
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     xenodemon (xenodemon@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:14:41 JST xenodemon

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     @djsumdog @keira_reckons @sapphire if you have no issues with the pride flag in church then you are a Christcuck. you are literally braindead
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:14:41 JST djsumdog

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     I literally do not think they're compatible. But I'm also not a Christian and don't really care. Are you just making up some insane head-cannon about me? And you're calling me brain dead?
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:17:04 JST djsumdog

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     What about that? My parents came here legally. My dad literally worked decades in power plants keeping your lights on. I was born legally to parents who got their greencards through the process established by law.
     
     I'm sorry if you're too stupid to understand what laws are.
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     Paleface (paleface@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:17:05 JST Paleface

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     "A legal one at that."
     
     Yeah, about that.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:17:35 JST djsumdog

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     Yea, I just kinda feel sorry for you now.
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     xenodemon (xenodemon@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 02:17:36 JST xenodemon

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     @djsumdog @keira_reckons @sapphire now you are just talking out of the other side of your ass
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     senn (3hu@cawfee.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 03:09:08 JST senn

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     @djsumdog @keira_reckons @Owl Have the right people in your society (ethnic groups DO engage in antisocial behaviour such as scams at differing rates), put the financials of repeat scamees under protection, and go after scammers and their facilitators with force.
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     senn (3hu@cawfee.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 03:16:05 JST senn

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     @djsumdog @keira_reckons @Paleface @sapphire "I'm just as american as you, see this piece of paper says I am!"
     "btw I'm a rootless cosmopolitan, I'm not christian and argue that it's core tenets are fake"
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 03:16:05 JST djsumdog

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     I guess that whole religious freedom thing doesn't have anything to do with being an American? I was born here, went to public schools alongside lot of other people who never treated me any different.
     
     It's amazing how people on about how I'm "American cause piece of paper" and yet they have no fucking idea what makes anyone an America. Are they more America cause they got a piece of paper in 1850 or 1750 instead of 1950?
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 03:33:09 JST djsumdog

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     And yet Mormons and Catholics are still in America and free to practice. Are they not Americans by your values?
     
     I could go into deists, quakers or the massive differences between early Puritans and various protestants within the first century of the country, but I feel like all that would be lost on you.
     
     I think the great iron is that the majority of Americans and even the majority of American conservatives would find your views foreign.
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     senn (3hu@cawfee.club)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 03:33:10 JST senn

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     @djsumdog @keira_reckons @Paleface @sapphire There's a big difference between freedom of religion within christianity and absolute freedom to choose your own arbitrary morality, and they thought so in the past as well, look at how they exiled the mormons and distrusted the catholics.
     
     Not sharing a common morality with american culture is a big deal for the american identity question when you're already a complete foreigner.
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     sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 03:33:41 JST sapphire

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     @xianc78 @djsumdog @keira_reckons @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @mischievoustomato >he federates blocks
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     @sapphire @keira_reckons @djsumdog @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @mischievoustomato I didn't even know it was optional.

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     @djsumdog @keira_reckons @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @sapphire @mischievoustomato Always mute, not block. Blocking allows blockbots to public announce your blocks and leads to more dogpiling.

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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 06:14:00 JST djsumdog

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     It was to trash your shitpost, but whatever floats your goat.
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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 06:14:01 JST Owl

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     Okay now you're just handing me the dunk
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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 06:14:02 JST Owl

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     You know your father didn't need to do that, the lights turn on by a switch, right?
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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 06:14:02 JST Owl

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     Okay I'm sure that even you can see the irony in this right