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   Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 14:14:21 JST Christmas Sun
   I watched a video about challenged books in the usa and not only are most of them just school libraries that moved the book to an older age group, all of them were completely justifiable, in some cases even the author was mystified as to why it was being given to children
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     Nudhul (nudhul@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:22:52 JST Nudhul

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     @sun me in 5th grade wondering why im forced to read about some nasty skank's girl problems while living in an attic
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:25:08 JST iced depresso

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     @sun that whole thing just annoys me like down here the republicans are basically closing libraries because the courts won't let them ban the gay
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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:29:25 JST Christmas Sun

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     @icedquinn its useful to point this out because they present it on one hand that the school book challenges are reasonable (I think some of them are) but yeah on the other hand threatening libraries
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:31:34 JST iced depresso

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     @sun > school book challenges
     
     i mean you can go to the PTA meetings to protest anything, the correct response is to point out the contradiction not to have the FBI label them as terrorists.
     
     the other is the way you know the PTA challenges were correct is because the parents started protesting by reading the book out loud and all the censors started flailing wildly.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:33:21 JST iced depresso

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     @sun the NPC in charge is literally gaslighting everyone that they aren't making children read sex books while the parent is reading the gay sex scene out loud and the FCC minder is setting their hair on fire for regulatory violations its like are you serious right now
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     Fish in the percolator (lain@lain.com)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:35:30 JST Fish in the percolator

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     @sun read the books that the conservatards don't want your children to see
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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:36:15 JST Christmas Sun

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     • iced depresso
     @icedquinn some of the books that were listed, the guy was showing the marketing copy for the books. So the ALA was calling every book "said to be sexually explicit". The marketing copy from the publisher would say "a sexually-explicit account" or "for young adults".
     
     There was also one book that a ton of librarians voted for that got a librarian award and the author was mystified as to why his book was getting an award for young readers because the book was clearly for adults. It turns out that there were two books that had the same name and one of them was a kids book, and a bunch of librarians pulled the lever on the "show sex to kids" apparently based on buzz from the kids book.
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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:36:58 JST Christmas Sun

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     • Fish in the percolator
     @lain yess https://archive.org/download/penthouse-guide-to-cybersex
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     H. Faust (hfaust@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:38:25 JST H. Faust

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     @lain @sun Now this is the Cyberpunk future I was promised.
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     Fish in the percolator (lain@lain.com)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:38:25 JST Fish in the percolator

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     @hfaust @sun
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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:38:29 JST Christmas Sun

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     @lain I somehow bet this uses standalone flash for its user interface
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:39:09 JST iced depresso

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     @sun :blobcatgoogly: oops
     
     there are so many arguments that could have been made that would have been better than the ones they did like
     
     even up to just flat out saying yeah this isn't mandatory reading but we don't see much scientific evidence this is actually harmful
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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:42:00 JST Christmas Sun

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     @icedquinn the Maus one was interesting, like in one case they basically just moved it from curriculum to the school library and this was enough for the ALA to mark it as banned/challenged. maybe it was actually banned in another school though, I don't want to assume the conservative source I got the info from is reliable
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     H. Faust (hfaust@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:42:24 JST H. Faust

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     @lain @sun Wow, the guide for USENET is actually useful, even informing newc(u)mers to read the FAQ
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     H. Faust (hfaust@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:42:25 JST H. Faust

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     @lain @sun SOUL
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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:43:19 JST Christmas Sun

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     @hfaust @lain I miss uncomfortable internet contractions like FAQ and blog. they all sound so alien
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     Fish in the percolator (lain@lain.com)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:46:05 JST Fish in the percolator

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     @sun @hfaust
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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:47:20 JST Christmas Sun

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     @lain @hfaust did you download it
     
     I'm gonna try mounting the ISO in my ARM Windows VM
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     Fish in the percolator (lain@lain.com)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:48:02 JST Fish in the percolator

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     @sun @hfaust no i just looked into the iso and tried a few small files, many of them don't play in mpv though, maybe it needs actual quicktime from 20 years ago
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     Fish in the percolator (lain@lain.com)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:49:57 JST Fish in the percolator

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     @sun @hfaust ... actually... 30 years ago...
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:51:21 JST iced depresso

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     • skylar :confederateflag:??? :z:
     @skylar @sun :neocat_gun: leave the library alone
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     skylar :confederateflag:??? :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:51:23 JST skylar :confederateflag:??? :z:

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     • iced depresso
     @icedquinn @sun i support all efforts to shut down libraries and ban books, whether it comes from the right or the left
     we need to wipe the smug looks off the book nerds faces. the bans and censorship will continue until they admit their hobby is no better than anyone else's. they owe an apology to people who prefer activities like fishing, watching football, playing video games, gardening, and watching vtubers.
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     You Will Never Know Why (why@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:51:54 JST You Will Never Know Why

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     @sun @hfaust @lain the kids these days are saying ijbol instead of lol
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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:51:54 JST Christmas Sun

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     @why @hfaust @lain Warning, your kids may be learning "Lojban" to hide their activities from you, Lojban is a semantically-unambiguous "constructed language" designed to be "culturally neutral".
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     Rocket (rocket@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:52:09 JST Rocket

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     @sun Right-wing books are shunned by major publishers and banned by Amazon. The ALA doesn't care. But someone thinks a book is inappropriate for children? Book banner! Nazi! How dare they!
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     Fish in the percolator (lain@lain.com)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:53:28 JST Fish in the percolator

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     @hfaust @sun in most cases i found it easier to use a mac os 9 vm for these old multimedia cds
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     H. Faust (hfaust@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:53:29 JST H. Faust

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     @lain @sun I wonder if setting up a Windows 95/98 VM to read the CD would be worth it
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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:53:29 JST Christmas Sun

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     @hfaust @lain I set up a windows 3 QEMU VM a couple months ago. I don't think it's hard. I have been meaning to (and now I have the time) create a set of preconfigured QEMU disks and configurations for classic OS for experimentation.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:58:51 JST iced depresso

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     • Nicholas Conrad
     @nicholas @sun culture warriors always come for the libraries. we have like 500+ years of evidence on this
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     Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 00:58:52 JST Nicholas Conrad

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     I see a lot of folks upset whenever libraries are 'threatened', but I don't understand why. What purpose do you see for libraries that couldn't be fulfilled cheaper and better by a combination of municipal wifi, the Libby app, and a program to give ruggedized e-readers to anyone who can't afford their own device? I don't think we really need physical infrastructure and publicly employed library science phds in every city, town, and village in America anymore.

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     Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 01:07:06 JST Nicholas Conrad

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     My (admittedly cursory) read on it is that the libraries have been well-conquered by the culture warriors already, tho....

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 01:08:30 JST iced depresso

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     • Nicholas Conrad
     @nicholas @sun the kind of people who attack libraries are generally always bad
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     Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 01:08:31 JST Nicholas Conrad

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     Okay, so not so much "libraries good" as "the particular people attacking libraries in this instance bad". I can get on board with that. I appreciate the role of archivists, but think it belongs in academia.

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 01:08:32 JST iced depresso

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     • Nicholas Conrad
     @nicholas @sun in these cases they are the christians coming to burn down the library of alexandria again (and other equivalents) because tyrants always attack archivists who would show a time without them existed and can disprove all their bullshit. they aren't coming at them because they are ineffective, they want them gone because they can't control them.
     
     changing the nature of libraries and community centers to make them more effective is a whole separate conversation that you could have, although they're kind of iconic and i dunno that i'd get rid of them even though we're in a time where we absolutely could deputize IA in to handing out free epubs and there's no shortage of ways to build or repurpose old devices to read them
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 01:08:46 JST iced depresso

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     @nicholas @sun
     :blobcatnerd: we're gonna hoard books and let the poors read some of them
     :blobcatsuit: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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     Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 01:12:55 JST Nicholas Conrad

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     I am against public libraries, but I am against public everything 🤷♀️

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 01:12:55 JST iced depresso

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     @nicholas @sun i like book hoarders :blobcatbox:
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     Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 01:17:25 JST Nicholas Conrad

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     Our intellectual property regime designed to make media expensive made media expensive, whatever will we do?

     :geordi_nah: Use even more tax dollars to subsidize reading.

     :geordi_yeah: Eliminate copywrite and let the poors bittorrent in peace without kicking their doors in.

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 01:17:25 JST iced depresso

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     @nicholas @sun they're much older than that
     
     rome had public libraries in a time when just owning one book was a huge fuckin deal (had to be hand bound and someone sit there and scribble the whole thing front to back)
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     ins0mniak (ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 03:12:36 JST ins0mniak

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     @lain @sun
     
     https://archive.org/download/penthouse-guide-to-cybersex
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     Dad (noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 03:12:52 JST Dad

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     @sun @lain someone needs to do a Let's Play of this
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     david :_biflag: (david@pl.dav1d.lol)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 03:13:00 JST david :_biflag:

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     @lain @sun cybersex is when u furry rp 💀
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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 03:50:04 JST Christmas Sun

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     @noyoushutthefuckupdad @lain I just got an owncast server set up. I'm gonna try to customize it though
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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 04:12:47 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @condret @sun
     
     Most likely not. In the US there's a weird shitlib movements about "banned books", which happens at the state level and only affect schools IIRC. There's shelves dedicated to them in book stores and etc. I recall hearing some dumb cases here and there but usually it's what @sun said, but in the end it's the schools failing to filter some of these properly ultimately leading to this
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     condret :verified: :ancom: (condret@fedi.absturztau.be)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 04:12:49 JST condret :verified: :ancom:

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     @sun you are talking about religious books, right?
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     Thomas Roiloup (thomasroiloup@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 04:54:38 JST Thomas Roiloup

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     @lain @sun CHECK OUT THIS SPICY BOOK CONSERVATARDS and then it's just "Why Kikes Deserved the Holocaust" by NiggerPissRapist (foreword by Katheryn Hikes) and it's exactly 1488 pages long and half of the pages are just filled with N towers and the word "nigger" made out of smaller words of "nigger" (kind of like that one other wonderful book from /lit/).
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     Fish in the percolator (lain@lain.com)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 04:55:29 JST Fish in the percolator

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     @thomasroiloup @sun globohomo doesn’t want you to read it because they want you to be sheep