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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 14:50:37 JST 
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oh goddammit fuck nostr mirrors - ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this.
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 14:50:53 JST 
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@p greasy gleasoned -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 14:50:53 JST
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@graf New idea. ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 14:50:54 JST
anime graf mays ?️?
@p i think splits are coded into it, so a server can choose to take a portion of the zap for funding. i never set it up and i think nostr and its bridges are cancer and we've dropped the existing ones because our staff doesnt have time to deal with the spam and the CSAM that crosses more than a dozen times was enough for me to stop allowing it -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 14:50:54 JST
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@graf I have not received any money; I did hear people tell me I was getting zaps. I imagine that this has been collected by the person running the gateway, and the gateway presents it as being a way to send BTC to me rather than to the operator of the gateway. -
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 14:50:55 JST
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@p correct -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 14:50:55 JST
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@graf Who exactly collects all of the "zaps"? There's a key, there's a bitcoin address. Is the guy running the Nostr mirror just taking that? -
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 17:11:25 JST
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@phnt @p yea petes account doesnt have the requirement to make it work so i wonder if it 1. worked and 2. where the sats went -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 17:11:25 JST
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@graf @phnt Well, anyway his bridges are going to start ignoring FSE pretty soon. -
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 17:11:27 JST 
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@p @graf If I remember correctly it should do nothing unless you have special ⚡ field in your bio with a link to an address.
However since only gleasonware supports it on the fedi side, it wouldn't surprise me if it is bugged in some way. And Nostr being mostly a scam haven, I would also expect it to be intentionally modified to be broken on the Nostr bridge side.✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 17:12:25 JST
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@phnt @graf
it_claims_i_can_be_zapped_but_i_cannot.png✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 17:41:37 JST
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@p @phnt @Flick @817148c3690155401b494580871fb0564a5faafb9454813ef295f2706bc93359 the issue is that mass adoption wont happen if a user cant have a user and password. if they have to maintain a key and a passphrase to even log in you are going to lose 99.9999999% of users -
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Flick ?? (flick@spinster.xyz)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 17:41:38 JST 
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@graf @phnt @p I think you’re probably right. It’s very different to most of Fedi.
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 17:41:38 JST
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@Flick @graf @phnt
> It’s very different to most of Fedi.
This isn't the actual problem with it.✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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Flick ?? (flick@spinster.xyz)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 17:41:39 JST
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@graf @phnt @p FWIW, I don’t have the option to zap him (with my Nostr account).
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 17:41:39 JST
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@Flick @phnt @p sorry flick, nostr is gay and will never be adopted -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 17:42:13 JST 
?? Humpleupagus ??
Let's see what Alex is up to now. Oh no! 😬 -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 17:42:14 JST
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@graf @phnt @Flick @817148c3690155401b494580871fb0564a5faafb9454813ef295f2706bc93359 This is unfortunate and also accurate. -
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 18:11:26 JST
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@Flick @phnt @p thats not why i am saying it will never take off -- nostr requires you to have a pub and a private key. you have to store both, and you need one to login anywhere you go -- its usually 128-256+ characters. nobody is going to remember that. they're not interested in logging in on one relay and having their shit seen by their friends and then taking it somewhere else and literally nobody knows who they are. the tech is sound but literally *nobody* will be using it. it's such a wasted investment of time and money. alex fucked all of us off for this because he got the tiniest sneeze of investment money. there is no future in nostr at all -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 18:11:26 JST
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@graf @Flick @phnt
> the tech is sound
Actually, the relay system is a terrible idea and this sort of thing has been tried before with exactly the results Nostr is currently seeing. It's a bottleneck. (They also botched the execution pretty badly if it's setting phones on fire.)✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 18:11:40 JST
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@Zergling_man @graf @Flick @phnt His point was that Gleason dropped a real thing (including real commitments) for a thing that will never go anywhere.
I'm glad Gleason fucked off, though I am not glad that his fucking off has screwed a friend.✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 18:11:41 JST 
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@ARD0xjNVGoRHiFChQu.graf@poa.st @Flick @p @phnt >Criticise the post you made, based on the actual text in it
>Get called retarded for supposedly criticising something else
>Post link to the thing that proves you really did say what I am accusing you of saying
>"congratulations on getting me to ignore anything you ever say to me again"
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 18:11:42 JST
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@Zergling_man @phnt @p @Flick congratulations on getting me to ignore anything you ever say to me again -
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Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 18:11:43 JST
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@ARD0xjNVGoRHiFChQu.graf@poa.st @Flick @p @phnt https://poa.st/objects/704eb976-ee6a-42d8-9fff-d2f6c846c4cd -
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 18:11:44 JST
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@Zergling_man @phnt @p @Flick I refuse to federate with nostr because it's a hotbed of spam and CSAM. my choice to not support alex in his endeavour into hosting child pornoraphy is not the same as my opinion on the service and you are retarded for likening the two -
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 18:11:45 JST
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@Zergling_man @phnt @p @Flick alex billed rebased as the always updated and patched pleroma. my issue with alex is he took all the help we gave him, including multiple free code audits to fix pleroma and he dropped it for acouple thousand dollars to develop something literally nobody wants -
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Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 18:11:45 JST
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@ARD0xjNVGoRHiFChQu.graf@poa.st @Flick @p @phnt No, it's your opinion on nostr that bothers me. You're deciding you don't like it not based on its own merits but on what normies are going to think of it. -
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Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 18:11:46 JST
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@ARD0xjNVGoRHiFChQu.graf@poa.st @Flick @p @phnt I wouldn't have expected you to make an appeal to popularity. -
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Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 18:11:53 JST 
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the stupid keys are the problem. It's just a huge pain in the ass to tag absolutely anyone.
The thought behind nostr is like walking a block down the road to the grocery store, but instead of walking, you decide to use a pogo stick. -
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 18:11:53 JST
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@Tony @p @graf @Flick The keys are a problem. A problem that can be managed.
What can't be managed is the constant spam and the intentional inability to properly moderate the network coupled with how easy it is to spin up new keys. Nostr feels like if you made every spam email ever sent public and viewable on a timeline.✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 18:12:46 JST
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@phnt @graf @Flick @Tony In general, I do not have much to say if we are discussing Nostr but I do want to test the MRF. ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 18:12:47 JST
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@phnt @Tony @p @Flick Nobody is going to bother man. Nostr is a problem looking for a solution. Taking logins and passwords from users means you lose almost 100% of users right out of the gate. There isn't a person on earth that is going to download a password manager to log into a new "social media" site. Not happening. Stupid, incredibly stupid -
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 18:12:47 JST
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@graf @Tony @p @Flick Well the people that bothered are also the ones that don't mind crypto address strings and such, so they managed to create their own niche which can be good or bad depending on the point of view.
Will it ever come out of its own niche "market" and become something more popular rivaling fedi? Zero chance because of its many flaws and the refusal to learn from past mistakes.
Heck, even mimicking something resembling a social media site sort of goes against what Nostr was supposed to be. Ditto is a hack to make a client-relay-client network seem more like a fedi instance with its own community. -
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✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 18:12:57 JST 
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@p @Tony @phnt @817148c3690155401b494580871fb0564a5faafb9454813ef295f2706bc93359 @graf @Flick I would like this mrf when complete -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:00:13 JST
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@dcc @Flick @Tony @graf @phnt I think it is working. ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:06:17 JST
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@p @Tony @phnt @1c96937f20d724b0396037665604ff6a867bcfbfc34d89bc9f8460243061bdd6 @graf @Flick O, i though it was a troll mrf. :dr_jonny_fever: -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:06:18 JST
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@dcc @Flick @Tony @graf @phnt Looks to me like it works: https://git.freespeechextremist.com/gitweb/?p=fse;a=blob;f=lib/site/mrf/hello_mostr.ex;h=87992f99b1bb9475a5154f1f7bc03101db6d9027;hb=362b670598a5b4882e5df8e14fa724df12d7eaf0
The MRF is just to make sure some of the posts federate, though. It doesn't do much besides send posts to the last mostr account to interact with FSE.✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:06:34 JST
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@hakui @Flick @Zergling_man @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @phnt Unfunny Jail. ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:06:35 JST 
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@p @Flick @Zergling_man @phnt @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 going to jail because being unfunny is a crime, huh -
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御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:06:36 JST
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@Zergling_man @p @Flick @phnt when you see someone you know passing by and they say "hey how are you" do you stop and give a full status update instead of saying "good" too -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:06:36 JST
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@hakui @Zergling_man @Flick @phnt If someone asks how I'm doing and I can't think of a joke, I lock up. -
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Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:06:37 JST
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@p @Flick @817148c3690155401b494580871fb0564a5faafb9454813ef295f2706bc93359 @phnt >This is the issue. You can pick a piece out, but I talk to the guy every day. These aren't formal contracts, he's not signing a bill into law, it's a very informal conversation. So I see that and I read something that resembles all the other stuff he has said.
This sounds more like you're not actually reading his post at all, and just assuming what he has meant, regardless of what was written. Call me crazy, but I write what I mean, instead of what I don't mean, so that when people read it, they will see the thing I mean and not something else.
>Nobody wants to have a conversation that works that way, though.
I dunno I am a fan of conversing by actually reading what people write and assuming that they have meant what they have written. Probably relatedly, I do not like tsunderes. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:06:38 JST
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@Zergling_man @817148c3690155401b494580871fb0564a5faafb9454813ef295f2706bc93359 @Flick @phnt
> Maybe not, and that's entirely on your side.
I do not think so. I don't think I'm going to convince you that someone else meant something else when they said something and I don't think it's useful.
> Look at that post, he says, in brief,
This is the issue. You can pick a piece out, but I talk to the guy every day. These aren't formal contracts, he's not signing a bill into law, it's a very informal conversation. So I see that and I read something that resembles all the other stuff he has said. We're looking at the same post, and if you are really interested in parsing the words that finely and treating it as a precise and isolated statement, sure, it's possible to take that meaning. Nobody wants to have a conversation that works that way, though.
I call people "bots" a lot and people that I talk to a lot know that I mean the person behaves closely enough that they may as well be a bot, and people that don't read it that way will say "You think he's a chatbot! I'm sitting right next to him, he's not a bot!" and they don't get what I mean and it's fine. Take it literally enough, treat it like an isolated statement, and calling someone a bot is factually incorrect, but I use it figuratively often enough that most people get my meaning.
So I saw the same post you did, but I read something different.
> And I am saying the last point is wrong.
I'm onboard with that, but Poast runs for people that use Poast; it has to work the way it works or the people on it are frustrated, and whatever you think of the people on it, graf committed to running a service, and he takes Poast pretty seriously as a commitment, and I think that's a good way to run a service.
> Do you think the post is not saying that? Do you think the last point is right?
I don't like catering to normies but if I had started Poast, I'd try to make sure I kept up the commitment to operate Poast as Poast. I don't want to host loli but because I have agreed to import bae.st into Revolver, I'll be hosting a lot of loli; luckily for me, I'm not "hosting" it in the traditional sense, but I agreed to what I agreed to and I'm going to stick to it.
> it is frustrating to see you stubbornly not understanding me.
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Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:06:39 JST
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@p @817148c3690155401b494580871fb0564a5faafb9454813ef295f2706bc93359 @Flick @phnt I read that. I understood it.
At what point have I indicated otherwise? Maybe in my original post, but I think it was very clear what I was referring to. And then when graf misunderstood it, I clarified, very explicitly, that I am not referring to that.
>I don't think we're gonna get anywhere
Maybe not, and that's entirely on your side. Graf gets angry at me regularly, so him not reading what I write is unsurprising, but apparently you are doing it too. Look at that post, he says, in brief, that:
1) nostr relies on key management
2) which is hard for normies
3) and that's bad
And I am saying the last point is wrong.
Do you think the post is not saying that? Do you think the last point is right? I don't know, but I would like to get to the bottom of this because it is frustrating to see you stubbornly not understanding me. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:06:40 JST
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@Zergling_man @Flick @phnt
> His point was that Gleason dropped a real thing (including real commitments) for a thing that will never go anywhere.
I don't think we're gonna get anywhere. I saw that and I read that and you didn't see it and it doesn't actually matter. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:06:41 JST
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@Zergling_man @817148c3690155401b494580871fb0564a5faafb9454813ef295f2706bc93359 @Flick @phnt I was present for the conversation and did not see the thing you saw and the gotcha is tiresome. -
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Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:06:41 JST
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@p @Flick @817148c3690155401b494580871fb0564a5faafb9454813ef295f2706bc93359 @phnt It is right there in that post.
Here it is, without the bit that I wasn't responding to, the bit where he went back to shitting on Gleason:
>thats not why i am saying it will never take off -- nostr requires you to have a pub and a private key. you have to store both, and you need one to login anywhere you go -- its usually 128-256+ characters. nobody is going to remember that. they're not interested in logging in on one relay and having their shit seen by their friends and then taking it somewhere else and literally nobody knows who they are. the tech is sound but literally *nobody* will be using it. it's such a wasted investment of time and money. -
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Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:06:42 JST
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@p @817148c3690155401b494580871fb0564a5faafb9454813ef295f2706bc93359 @Flick @ARD0xjNVGoRHiFChQu.graf@poa.st @phnt https://poa.st/objects/704eb976-ee6a-42d8-9fff-d2f6c846c4cd -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:28:35 JST
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@dcc @Flick @Tony @graf @phnt The MRF is there to get mostr.pub to start fetching more posts and user accounts from FSE; that's where the trolling happens. ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:29:20 JST
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@p @Tony @phnt @1c96937f20d724b0396037665604ff6a867bcfbfc34d89bc9f8460243061bdd6 @graf @Flick Ah.... :alex_smile: -
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p (p@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:30:30 JST 
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@Dirty_Thirty @p @phnt @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @Zergling_man @Flick @randbot
> learn to linux nigger
ssh poast
psql
update users set name = 'dude that thinks linux is 1337', bio = 'This retarded cracker probably uses Ubuntu or Kali or something.' where nickname = 'Dirty_Thirty';✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:30:30 JST
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@p @Dirty_Thirty @Flick @Zergling_man @phnt @randbot I am forming a guess about why I had deactivated him. ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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Dirty Thirty (dirty_thirty@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:30:31 JST 
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@p @phnt @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @Zergling_man @Flick learn to linux nigger
@randbot fucking kek -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:30:32 JST
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@phnt @Dirty_Thirty @Flick @Zergling_man @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 It's the underscore, I skipped the underscore. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:30:33 JST
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@Zergling_man @Dirty_Thirty @Flick @phnt That's weird, I can't see him and I get a 404 if I do
curl -H 'accept: application/json' -A 'FSE, let me in.' https://poa.st/users/DirtyThirty -
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:30:33 JST
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@p @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @Dirty_Thirty @Zergling_man @Flick I get notifs, but the posts don't show up in the user profile here and poast responds with "can't find user". Something's fucky. -
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Dirty Thirty (dirty_thirty@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:30:34 JST
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@Zergling_man @p @phnt @817148c3690155401b494580871fb0564a5faafb9454813ef295f2706bc93359 @Flick no one's reading all that shit nigger -
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Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:30:34 JST
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@Dirty_Thirty @Flick @817148c3690155401b494580871fb0564a5faafb9454813ef295f2706bc93359 @p @phnt Why would you join a thread just to show off how much cock you suck? -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:30:39 JST
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@dcc @Flick @Tony @graf @phnt Although you should check the newer version because I screwed it up and pushed a fix. ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 19:31:11 JST
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@Dirty_Thirty @p @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @randbot @Zergling_man @Flick
>posts a clip of his own post
>reacts to his own post with 😂
Yeah, you are going on the retard list.✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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@i @1c96937f20d724b0396037665604ff6a867bcfbfc34d89bc9f8460243061bdd6 @Flick @Tony @dcc @graf @phnt Oh, I'm going the other direction: I'm sending unsolicited posts to mostr.pub. ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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@p @dcc @Tony @phnt @817148c3690155401b494580871fb0564a5faafb9454813ef295f2706bc93359 @graf @Flick it's just a shame the bridge isn't stable enough to act as a permanent firehose, works sorta fine to dragnet AP activities that pass over it, but requesting every single nostr post puts you in the rate limit bucket
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@Zergling_man @Flick @phnt One can change it, but he will be hounded for years afterwards. ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 20:03:55 JST
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@phnt @Flick @p Alternately: How many admins does it take to change a lightbulb -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 20:03:56 JST
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@Zergling_man @Flick @phnt It makes it unfriendly to people that he wants to provide a service for. -
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@p @Flick @phnt Right. That was so hard. -
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@p @Flick @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @phnt I would like to get somewhere with it. But it seems pretty clear to me that when graf writes about hating nostr because key management makes it normie-unfriendly, that he hates nostr because key management makes it normie-unfriendly.
You're saying that's not the case, maybe you are right. But that then leaves the question of why he wrote about hating nostr's key management. That is where progress can be made. But he will not answer me and I am guessing you don't know. So, again, it's not stalled here. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 20:03:58 JST
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@Zergling_man @Flick @phnt
> If you're trying to tell me that graf doesn't actually hate things having key management,
He uses ssh.
> nostr being anti-normie when he meant to complain about CSAM
I didn't say that even remotely. This is why I say I don't think we're going to get anywhere if we keep on this topic. -
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@Zergling_man @817148c3690155401b494580871fb0564a5faafb9454813ef295f2706bc93359 @Flick @phnt
> This sounds more like you're not actually reading his post at all, and just assuming what he has meant,
I'm reading it in the context of all of the conversations I have had with him over the years. If I use the "bot" example again, when someone sees me tell someone "You're a bot" and they read "You are functionally indistinguishable from a bot" rather than "I believe you to be a computer program", would you say they haven't read my post, or that they understand what I mean? I've been rambling about persimmons lately, and I sometimes say "pomegranate" when I mean to say "persimmon", and I say "Hey, do you want a pomegranate?" and the woman says "Yes" and then isn't surprised when I toss a persimmon at her.
> actually reading what people write
Yeah, but if they clarify and you say "But here's where you said the thing!" then it's being obtuse. -
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Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 20:03:59 JST
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@p @Flick @817148c3690155401b494580871fb0564a5faafb9454813ef295f2706bc93359 @phnt This goes well beyond slip of tongue or common shorthand. If you're trying to tell me that graf doesn't actually hate things having key management, or that he doesn't hate things being anti-normie, and that he went on a rant about key management in nostr being anti-normie when he meant to complain about CSAM instead, I think it is extremely reasonable for me to doubt you.
And then instead of telling me that he didn't actually mean that, he insulted me and muted me. Figure that out. -
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Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 21:10:05 JST
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@hakui @Flick @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @p @phnt Evidently not because you're still free. -
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@hakui @p @Zergling_man suya.. -
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御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 21:10:15 JST
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@Zergling_man @p suya.. -
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@Zergling_man @p suya.. -
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@hakui @p colours=[(255,0,0),(0,0,255),(0,255,0)] -
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@hakui @p count=len(actions)
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@Zergling_man @p suya.. -
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@Zergling_man @p suya.. -
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Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 21:10:19 JST
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@hakui @p Dilate, or something. -
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御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 21:10:21 JST
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@Zergling_man @p sasuga the master of misinterpreting people's words
suya.. -
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Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 21:10:21 JST
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@hakui @p lol -
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@hakui @p Ah, so now you're seething mad. Thankyou. -
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Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 21:10:23 JST
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@hakui @Flick @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @p @phnt I'm making a ring menu, and although I'll put icons in the slots later (probably), in the meantime I'm just colouring each slice.
I want it to only display as many slices as it has, and that's relatively straightforward if I give it a list of colours, but that implies a cap. I wonder how I could make it go to arbitrary precision...
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Technically I only need two colours. Maybe I will just loop through them as much as I need. -
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@Zergling_man @p aight good luck with that, can't really add much to that since i'm not good with computer
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@Zergling_man @Flick @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @p @phnt stay mad plato -
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Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 21:10:25 JST
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@hakui @Flick @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @p @phnt Run along, little jester. -
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Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 21:10:26 JST
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@hakui @Flick @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @p @phnt Oh yes, I'm so angry I could die!
So angry that I spent an hour and a half mostly ignoring the thread because I was busy playing games with friends that actually play games with me.
So angry that I reply calmly to everyone, including those who are quite blatantly trying to rile me up.
Very, very angry.
I dunno, maybe I should just turn the jeetshaker back on. You're all wrong and too stubborn to admit it, 🤷, you're going to continue insisting I'm wrong, about things I haven't actually said.
I just wonder why. -
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御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 21:10:26 JST
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@Zergling_man @Flick @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @p @phnt well since you're in the business of misinterpreting other people's words i'm assuming you're fair game to the same
so i'll misinterpret your reply as seething mad. deal with it -
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@Zergling_man @Flick @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @p @phnt are you plato? because you hella mad when diogenes plucked a chicken in front of you and refuse to see anything beyond that lmao -
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御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 21:10:28 JST
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@Zergling_man @Flick @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @p @phnt it's only bad when you refuse to understand that others might use language differently from you, and insist your interpretation of others' words is the correct one even when they clearly explained themselves
you're dropping down to the level of lefties going "why did they vote for trump? no, it's not because of the economy, that's just them trying to gaslight us, it's clearly because they're all nazis", but that's on you, not on autism itself -
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@hakui @Flick @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @p @phnt ClEaRlY ExPlAiNeD ThEmSeLvEs
Run along, little jester. -
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@hakui @Flick @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @p @phnt And I have long since understood your sentiment that you're trying to rile me up by claiming autism is somehow bad, demonstrating that you're insufficiently autistic, but for some reason you're here instead of discord. Run along, little jester. -
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御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 21:10:30 JST
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@Zergling_man @Flick @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @p @phnt yes i understand your sentiment that sometimes it's easier to shoot people than to talk to them but unfortunately we can't have everything we want in life -
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御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 21:10:31 JST
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@Zergling_man @Flick @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @p @phnt it's nothing to be embarassed about, i too in my first year in burgerland gave status updates in response to that question, but nonverbal cues quickly hinted to me that that might not actually be the intent behind their statement
just giving you a hint if you missed it so far -
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@hakui @Flick @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @p @phnt Too boring, just come play swat instead. -
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@hakui @Flick @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @p @phnt Incredibly boring. -
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御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 21:10:33 JST
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@Zergling_man @Flick @b3f585f3e038f1dccdfaf2d7a1449a418605c392cd33ba7f137bca24842f5f90 @p @phnt yes most people call it a "figure of speech"
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