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In other words, what we're dealing with here, is NOT a legitimate government, but a hostage situation because of organized terrorism masquerading as legitimate authority.
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🤣🤣🤣
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@Dagnar @JeffTheJoker @Sui @Bunsen Interesting this was all sparked by a Scaeffer Cox quote - can you all stop for a moment to say a prayer for him that they grant his request to overturn his wrongful conviction? Thank you 🙏
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No.
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Fifth-generation warfare is conducted primarily through non-kinetic military action, such as social engineering, misinformation, and cyberattacks, along with emerging technologies such as artificial intelligence and fully autonomous systems. Fifth generation warfare has been described by Daniel Abbot as a war of "information and perception"
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Yeah, I have that book in my library too. It's a fascinating read, but I do realize that it's applicable internally as well. 🤔
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>There is absolutely no reason why the US, for example, cannot sustain itself in perpetuity without much in the way of global trade. This is why we have this push towards globalism today, because global trade powers demand the elimination of national boundaries that prevent the smooth flow of goods and services.
(((Global powers))) Wish to destroy Our logistical strength which is of course, war by definition.
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And war by other means: economic, information, perception, demographics, etc. Any and everything can be turned to hostile intent.
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>My best advice is: learn how to produce your own foods now. Gather seeds and tools. Detach yourself as much as you can from the system and be ready for the collapse.
Agreed....In fact, this must be a major part of the edifice of all future education, not only in childhood education and development, but throughout every stage of one's life.
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Imagine being in the government that oversees a self-sufficient population, everyone producing to meet their needs. Granted no one can produce everything, but that's what the free market is for. At that point, the government would really only be needed to see to national defense (as opposed to the current US model of global power projection). It would be reduced to mere coordination of effort towards greater self-sufficiency. There is absolutely no reason why the US, for example, cannot sustain itself in perpetuity without much in the way of global trade. This is why we have this push towards globalism today, because global trade powers demand the elimination of national boundaries that prevent the smooth flow of goods and services.
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That's going to happen regardless I'm afraid. However, that can have a positive eugenic effect in destroying the superfluity of fools that (((democracy))) has bred into existence. 🤔
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Certainly would eliminate those bullshit jobs, like Regional Color Manager or Diversity Equity Supervisor. How many of them have jobs where typing strings of shitty words into a sharticle earns them money? How fast would Twitch and the vtuber thing die when people no longer have "disposable" income? It would be a glorious shitshow!
My best advice is: learn how to produce your own foods now. Gather seeds and tools. Detach yourself as much as you can from the system and be ready for the collapse.
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Too much ease and comfort without an equal bearing of responsibility.
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Maybe letting another Great Depression happen?
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@JeffTheJoker @Dagnar @Sui @RadixVerum We sure failed in the vigilance department. 😔
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>The current system is hypervigilant against any movement away from its power. Remember Torba and his "parallel economy"? Same sort of thing will happen, send in the sliders to derail the conversation, send in the lefties to disrupt everything, and if shit still persists, send in the hedge fundies to force sales and buy up everything.
The problem, to compress the above into a concise summary, is the jew and his bank. The words of Thomas Jefferson come to mind, "Eternal vigilance is the price of Liberty." 🤔
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I was modeling this discussion internally in my mind earlier this morning, specifically with reference to ejecting Our parasites from off Our collective body....In this model, I envision a network somewhat similar to a root system supporting an organism such as a tree..The parasite has a contiguous parallel root structure designed to feed off it's host organism, weakening the host....The solution will be for us, the construction of a parallel network of roots that bypasses the infected root structure afflicted by the parasite, and render the old and dying network inert, but only until Our parallel is created will we terminate the old and transition to the new, leaving the parasites deprived of their sustenance.
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In theory, that's about the right way, but in practice it won't work. The current system is hypervigilant against any movement away from its power. Remember Torba and his "parallel economy"? Same sort of thing will happen, send in the sliders to derail the conversation, send in the lefties to disrupt everything, and if shit still persists, send in the hedge fundies to force sales and buy up everything. There's always a Cypher in every group willing to sell out for a fake steak. If there is to be a transition to a different system, we must first seize control of the current system, which itself leads to a very dangerous situation. If you're in control of a vast and powerful socio-economic empire, why would you destroy that? Too many would just keep it going.
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@Dagnar @Sui @JeffTheJoker @RadixVerum So, what we need to do is strive for a post-consumerist world.
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I think it would be "let the system collapse" but the problem now is how many people are utterly dependent on the synthetic production structure. Turn off the electric, and fuel cannot be pumped, farming shuts down as water cannot be pumped, food storage rots, medical life support shuts down, etc. If we were a properly functioning society, everything would be geared towards self-sufficiency. If you could produce your own food and your own medical treatments, you wouldn't depend on corporations and governments.
There's so much to unpack from such a simple question, though. The very concept of government has moved far beyond what the Founders envisioned, and corporations well beyond anything the free market could have night terrors over. No one owns land, everything is rapidly moving towards subscription economics, churn has replaced art, and people are kept distracted with bread and circuses. At this point, my best solution is to formulate what, precisely, kind of society we need to live in and work towards making that happen. But we cannot just tear down this society first, because the shockwave will be catastrophic. It must be a transition.
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Remember your Heinlein (paraphrased):
"Violence is the supreme authority, from which all other authority is derived"
Revolution is the People revoking the authority of government, which is usually followed by another government being less of a dick for a while, until the People get complacent. Tyranny is the government abusing its authority on a complacent populace.
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@Dagnar @Sui @JeffTheJoker @RadixVerum Disgusting how complacent the population is.
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That's what happens when you have mass production and industrialized farming. When the People have plenty, they get lazy. Laziness breeds complacency, because they are not being forced through the hard times it takes to keep their edge. One of the biggest factors in this was the post-war economic boom of the 1950s, and what made it worse was them coming out of the Great Depression. Those who had suffered hardship now threw themselves gleefully into consumerism.
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I would say exactly that, because no sane monkey brain would ever want the fucking job. You have to be socio/psychopathic to want to be responsible for the lives of 1000s, let alone millions. Bank or no bank couldn't be less relevant, they're all fucking lizard brains and they only ever act in their own self interests which is always mutually exclusive from the people they are meant to "serve". It is always an us vs them, they are always illegitimate and the more they have to show force the less power they actually have.
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I'm not saying that governments always start out legitimately either. It's nuanced. Sometimes people do work to create their own government. Sometimes, in fact, most times, they don't.
History is filled with examples of warlords who amass enough power to simply seize control over a nation and it's territory, enslaving said people living therein. That has been more often the case than otherwise.
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I guess it depends what you think is a "legitimate authority" then, because none of them actually have any authority without pointing guns at people. Which is nigger tier. I don't see any nuance tbh, they are all corrupt by design as the only people who ever want to be in them being the worst people for the job. It's always fake authority with fake motives, desperately flailing around pretending to represent the people and/or have the power to survive a rebellion. They're all just career liars, pushing a mafia grift upto monopoly levels.
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> NOT a legitimate government
> describes every government that has ever existed
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I wouldn't say that governments never start out as legitimate, but how long do they stay that way? This question is answered by whether or not said government allows or doesn't allow, a private bank to be established. 🤔
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