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   Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:39:00 JST Pawlicker

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   @lonestarr @Owl @noyoushutthefuckupdad The problem is aside from DEIslop, you'll end up with oversaturated genres like "hero shooter", "loot shooter", "battle royale", and more. This leads to shit like Hyenas, Concord, Lawbreakers, Battleborn, and more.
   
   These were all games that tried to chase the trend in an oversaturated market (and worse, charged money for them) when people were playing XYZ, without offering anything to set themselves apart. For example with Battle Royales, Fortnite set itself apart from PUBG with it's cartoony art style and being F2P initially, Apex Legends had fast paced movement, and Warzone was a spinoff of a successful franchise with the gameplay of said franchise intact as well.
   
   It's no different than the "Halo Killer" meme of the 00s with games like Haze, Killzone, and others trying to ripoff aspects of Halo. Turns out, the real Halo Killer was an entirely different game with entirely different gameplay known as Call of Duty 4. Then the trend became to ape Call of Duty or major aspects of it's gameplay.
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     burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:38:53 JST burner

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     erm maybe own property and have children and I'll respect you
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:38:53 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @burner @PurpCat @lonestarr @Owl @DEERBLOOD @Shadowbroker2135 @noyoushutthefuckupdad >own property and have children and I'll respect you
     So, as he was saying?
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     burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:38:54 JST burner

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     >millennial thinks real friendship is in person
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     Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb: (shadowbroker2135@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:38:54 JST Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb:

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     @burner @PurpCat @lonestarr @Owl @DEERBLOOD @noyoushutthefuckupdad These friggin zoomers are so disrespectful
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     burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:38:55 JST burner

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     discord unironically solved this, I haven't lost a friend since it came around
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     Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb: (shadowbroker2135@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:38:55 JST Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb:

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     @burner @PurpCat @lonestarr @Owl @DEERBLOOD @noyoushutthefuckupdad Are these friends you actually see and visit or are they "frens"
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     burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:38:56 JST burner

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     I experienced making friends who I lost forever because we stopped using our ps3s
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:38:56 JST Pawlicker

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     @burner @lonestarr @Owl @DEERBLOOD @Shadowbroker2135 @noyoushutthefuckupdad ah yes the people moving console platforms really fucked over friendships online.
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     Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb: (shadowbroker2135@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:38:57 JST Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb:

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     @burner @Owl @PurpCat @lonestarr @DEERBLOOD @noyoushutthefuckupdad Ahem you mean Star Wars Battlefront 2 2005
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     M. Night Charlemayne (deerblood@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:38:57 JST M. Night Charlemayne

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     @Shadowbroker2135 @burner @Owl @PurpCat @lonestarr @noyoushutthefuckupdad Get his ass
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     Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb: (shadowbroker2135@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:38:57 JST Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb:

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     @DEERBLOOD @burner @Owl @PurpCat @lonestarr @noyoushutthefuckupdad Bet he never even had to carry a CRT television and console to a friend's house just to play multiplayer
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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:38:58 JST Owl

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     The worst
     fucking
     turn-based shooter
     is Halo. Ever. Ever since the developers decided to pander to the dudebro demographic of FPS tards, they changed how the game used to work from the Halo 1 beta (when it was a successful and functioning turn-based shooter) to the CoD wannabe slop that it is now, with nothing to show for it.
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     burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:38:58 JST burner

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     REAL shooters:
     Titanfall 2
     PVZ GW 1
     Star Wars Battlefront (2015)
     TF2 (but only on low grav community servers with 100% crits)
     E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy
     
     everything else is a mockery
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     Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb: (shadowbroker2135@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:38:59 JST Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb:

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     @PurpCat @lonestarr @Owl @noyoushutthefuckupdad I know I just wanted to make a jab at the Halo franchise
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     M. Night Charlemayne (deerblood@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:38:59 JST M. Night Charlemayne

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     @Shadowbroker2135 @PurpCat @lonestarr @Owl @noyoushutthefuckupdad Let autismo cook
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     Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb: (shadowbroker2135@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:39:00 JST Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb:

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     @PurpCat @lonestarr @Owl @noyoushutthefuckupdad The Halo killer was Halo 4
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:39:00 JST Pawlicker

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     @Shadowbroker2135 @lonestarr @Owl @noyoushutthefuckupdad Halo killer in this sense meant a game that would be better than Halo and be more popular than it. It was almost always describing hyped up console games.
     https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Halo%20Killer
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     burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:40:40 JST burner

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     you don't count. Honourary gen x. Go watch Star Wars
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:40:40 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @burner @PurpCat @lonestarr @Owl @DEERBLOOD @Shadowbroker2135 @noyoushutthefuckupdad I haven't seen a Star wars movie since episode 2 hit theatres
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     burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:49:00 JST burner

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     I know you have an expensive comic collection you bastard
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:49:00 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @burner @PurpCat @lonestarr @Owl @DEERBLOOD @Shadowbroker2135 @noyoushutthefuckupdad I bought boxes of them at garage sales and sold them a decade later for 100x profit.
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:53:48 JST Pawlicker

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     @coolboymew @lonestarr @Owl @noyoushutthefuckupdad The indie success stories you hear about are either games filling a void (Palworld), or games that do something new/unique. Even the short term success of early indie "art games" faded out as the clique's influence faded.
     
     Nobody is going to care about another 3d platformer trying to mimic the same Nintendo games with trans flags and every character having pronouns and some mental disability, except for a small niche audience on Twitter.com and someone craving more slop. Those developers have the issue of being pigeonholed so hard that they end up making slop, and before the DEI stuff being added in these games had the issue of being samey.
     
     Wow, you're making a Sonic influenced game that adds little new. That's really cool, but you can fire up Sonic 3 in an emulator.
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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:53:49 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @PurpCat @lonestarr @Owl @noyoushutthefuckupdad this this this and this. AAA, as the time goes on and it gets more expensive, as always been a weird goldrush to make the mostly samey focus grouped bullshit, when in the end, actually making something different is actually what makes new franchises, genres and trends and right now the money requirement is so high they practically cannot pull this anymore without veering wildly into "safe slop"
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     xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:55:08 JST xianc78

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     @PurpCat @lonestarr @Owl @coolboymew @noyoushutthefuckupdad I always complain about modern games not being as wild west as they used to, but with indie games you have to be a little bit too wild west to get popular.

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     xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:55:40 JST xianc78

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     @PurpCat @lonestarr @Owl @coolboymew @noyoushutthefuckupdad The market is over-saturated. Everyone who has skimmed a programming text book is making their own game now. You need to be really unique or drown in the endless sea of shovelware, no matter how good your game is.

     I thought about getting at least a cult following by porting my games to obscure operating systems like BSD or Haiku. There is probably an audience for people who want to play something other than Tux Racer on those platforms.

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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 10:55:41 JST Pawlicker

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     @xianc78 @lonestarr @Owl @coolboymew @noyoushutthefuckupdad That's because indie games are either four things: crybaby "my life sucks" walking simulators, games mimicking the old games you can run in emulators with a side dose of DEIslop, games that do fill a void, and schizokino outsider art.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 11:04:30 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @xianc78 @PurpCat @coolboymew @noyoushutthefuckupdad Well even on BSDs, Haiku, illumos, or holy shit 9front, you have emulators for various retro systems.
     
     That said I think it's worth it for indie games to have some kind of Unix-like support (or retro-platform support lol) because they have strong communities so word of mouth likely works much better than doing yet-another Windows/Android release.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 12:39:15 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @PurpCat @xianc78 @coolboymew @noyoushutthefuckupdad Well for most it's just letting Unity/Godot/RenPy/RPGMaker/… do a Linux build and *maybe* testing it into a VM/spare-computer or asking a friend.
     
     At least I don't think most game"devs" build their own engines.
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 12:39:16 JST Pawlicker

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     @lanodan @xianc78 @coolboymew @noyoushutthefuckupdad Even a Linux port is a cut above what many devs do.
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     Witch Hunter Siegfired (witch_hunter_siegfired@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 14:06:16 JST Witch Hunter Siegfired

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     @BowsacNoodle @burner @PurpCat @lonestarr @Owl @DEERBLOOD @Shadowbroker2135 @noyoushutthefuckupdad If I may ask did you buy them to speculate or to read lol
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 14:06:16 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @burner @PurpCat @lonestarr @Owl @DEERBLOOD @Shadowbroker2135 @noyoushutthefuckupdad I bought them because they were cheap and I thought it was kind of cool. I liked comics when I was young. It wasn't for speculation, but I never really read them.
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     xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 05:38:00 JST xianc78

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     @PurpCat @lanodan @coolboymew @noyoushutthefuckupdad Even Nintendo, who is notorious for developing most things internally and being very secretive about the development of their games, are using engines like Unreal for games like Yoshi's Crafted World and Pikmin 4. Even Unity is used for more recent Pokemon games, but that can be excused for GameFreak being mediocre programmers.

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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 01-Nov-2024 05:38:01 JST Pawlicker

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     @lanodan @xianc78 @coolboymew @noyoushutthefuckupdad even 343 is using unreal now and they notoriously used a modified "blam" engine (the internal Bungie codename for halos engine)