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this is why you can't let the government be the one who cares about kids, because they don't.
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Strong women aren't feminists. They are just strong women. They are needed. Feminists have been made bad. My husband and his friend interviewed one of the original feminists and all she wanted the right to work if she wanted to. And she was pleasant. Not a shrew. Subservient women lack moral character and just go along with whatever stronger people say. That is the current problem. The good idea fairy and feelings rather than logic. Gays aren't logical. They have no place in society. Neither do illegals. It's all asinine.
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@Angel1313 @Bunsen @DMA @JeffTheJoker @InvictusManeo if she is a strong women then she will admit feminism has become what it was always going to be, and she should renounce feminism.
It was always about rebellion.
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The sooner We walk away and build it, the better. There's MUCH work to be done.
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@JeffTheJoker @Angel1313 @DMA @InvictusManeo @sickburnbro Much, including the eradication of feminism. BURN IT ALL!!! 🔥
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@Angel1313 @DMA @InvictusManeo @sickburnbro We will have to build something new and better after all of this is over.
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@InvictusManeo @Angel1313 @DMA @sickburnbro Many of us believe that the North American continent will burn to the ground before things get better.
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Not all of it. Some of us have wells and hoses.
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When I was in school there was no school of choice bullshit.
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@Angel1313 @DMA @Bunsen @sickburnbro I don't know, in Europe they just imposed the public system over anyone not wealthy enough to dodge it.
If you look at it from above, it sounds pretty much like a forced draft upon kids, but hey...
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I fought that state for 20 years. My sons were super smart. Above two grade. Other was Bipolar Disorder, a musical genius. Learn everything fast. Public schools tried to arrest me for placing them in private school. My friends at church connected me to a Christian school who protected me from arrest. Police came to my house.
I filed all the right paperwork. Warrant for my arrest for truancy Of a minor. Harris passed that bill.
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@DMA @Bunsen @sickburnbro Shit, feels bad, because you guys have the instruments but an uppity hostile system preventing you from using them, or weaponizing those against you.
In southern Europe we grew up without school choice, I mean, we do not even have the instruments unless you're born wealthy as fuckall and could literally throw balls of money at whichever obstacle our own hostile govts place on our path.
In europe to access private schools you ought to fork a considerable amount and nearly double that for every year, plus taxes capped between 37/42%.
I contributed when my brother wanted to enroll his daughter in a private school, but for his younger kid well, isn't even possible, because neither him nor me can write off those taxes, and living in different countries that gets even worse.
These are the topics that make me hope you guys get it right anytime soon, otherwise well... you'll end up like us, they'll strip away the few good things you have left.
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California hates intelligence. Only corruption and greed.
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@DMA @sickburnbro Makes me ashamed to have that place on my birth certificate.
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@skylar for many teachers they view smart kids as a problem.
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@sickburnbro >hey this child isn't completely dumb, how should we handle this?
A: send them to the "gifted program" so they have to do extra school work on top of all their regular work
B: accuse them of cheating whenever they finish an assignment quickly and demand they redo it
C: always assign them to do group work with the laziest and dumbest kids even though everyone else got to pick their group, so they have to do all the work and carry the others
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@pepsi_man you need to think about it from the perspective of the teacher. They have a plan, and they need the class to follow the plan. Most teachers can handle multiple plans, but .. separating class by plan makes things a lot more sense.
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I always hated public school because you're only allowed to learn as fast as the slowest nigger.
One of my earliest memories of school was a white teacher telling me to read slower bc lil ken is functionally retarded and has to be allowed to tag along. I saw that year after year where illiterate niggers are given extra resources just so they can read slightly better when they're in prison.
In junior high, I saw my first illegal beaner kid who couldn't speak or read English, but once again white ladies came to his rescue while his co-ethnics beat and bully the white kids.
Last one: Senior year of high school, we had a no-shit pregnant negress who couldn't read or write. You guessed it, a white teacher sheltered her from white kids laughing at her.
We literally privilege browns over whites at every turn.
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@aes31494 @sickburnbro they extra hated me cause i figured out their game of "let's make sky do extra work" very young and instead do the absolute minimum to pass
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@sickburnbro @skylar Agreed I was seen as a smart kid and I had some teachers and school staff hate me or even afraid of me
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@skylar @aes31494 "you're wasting your potential"!
honestly the best comeback would have been "so are you" but oh well
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@skylar @aes31494 the real life lesson is "you gotta do the extra shit because you're the only thing that is keeping society working"
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@sickburnbro @aes31494 honestly it was one of the few good life lessons from school: if you appear competent, people will demand more from you for nothing in return
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@aes31494 @skylar it's hard to let people take things apart. As it is harder to get even new parts that are known good, I have come to appreciate "it is working"
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@skylar @sickburnbro With me I was really good in math so much so I was helping my math teacher write lesson plans for his classes in high school and I was also really good with taking things apart and putting them back together again and even tried to fix some stuff and I was yelled at for actually trying to fix it
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@sickburnbro @skylar for me I actually started doing that with my toys when I was really young and you can basically get me the items and the tools and I can get it fixed in an hour or less
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@aes31494 @skylar you say that, but everyone has broken plastic where you missed the screw they hid under the product label or rubber foot
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@sickburnbro the old shitlibs are really bad about this, at least here, they can't admit at all that the schools are failures, even tho locally we're seeing, and i shit you not i can get the pdf, 70% illiteracy, and that's their reporting, so i would imagine its being generous to the schools
wanna take a stab at the demographics of most of the illiterate and how many are just being pushed through school and into the public with the rest of us, with a giant chip on their shoulder
its bonkers my dude
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@dictatordave yeah. the key is that a lot of smart older people were REALLY sold on the notion that we could educate everyone and make some kind of dumb perfect society
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@sickburnbro perfect as in docile and compliant to their particular flavor of authoritarianism
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@dictatordave for them the idea is kind of .. there is no point not to be that way if you have a perfect society - why would you NEED to be violent?
Which of course just explains where they went wrong - so many today even assume that is someone is stealing food or anything really, it's because they need food or money - not because its "fun"
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@Angel1313 @Bunsen @DMA @JeffTheJoker @InvictusManeo @sickburnbro >all she wanted the right to work if she wanted to.
I get the sentiment, but ally too often That quickly slides into “you have to hire me cuz woman”
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@EvilSandmich @Angel1313 @Bunsen @DMA @JeffTheJoker @InvictusManeo that's part of the entire thing. The "right" to work means that a man saying "shouldn't you be home with your kids" is "mean" and thus is infringing your rights.
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@chud @DMA @Bunsen @sickburnbro The ballot proposition polling in California is currently very weird.
Despite being the mecca of American progtards and shitlibs.
If polling is true, the voters are about to reject tax increases, reject the idea of banning slave prison labor and want the original tough on crime laws back.
But they also voting to add buttsex language to thr Californian constitution.
It's Nimbyism and majority of residents of this state being absolute cuntish subhumans given this state will also vote Democrat at all levels, the kind that want more street crime and nigger reparations and destruction of Russia.
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@leespringfield1903 @chud @DMA @Bunsen this sounds exactly like california boomers to me.
"I want it and i don't want to pay for it"
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"Truancy officers" exist to make sure your kid is not disproportionately prevented from experiencing normal childhood events, like being stabbed by a Mexican kid
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CA is gone. 1989 -2018 suffered enough. Hate the state.
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@DMA @sickburnbro Disgusting that you had to go through all of that, DMA. 🔥
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Homeschooling isn’t that hard. Does anyone actually think it takes 8 hours a day to educate a child? Nope, but it allows them time to indoctrinate them and teach them about sexual immorality, hatred of God, hatred of themselves, no critical thinking and absolute loyalty to the government. Which is their true goal. Educate your kids at home or keep handing their brains over to those who hate them. The choice is yours.
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@missjanedoe it doesn't take 8 hours a day to do that either. It takes 8 hours because that's how long they want both parents are the factory
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@sickburnbro u got a link to the or a bigger image of the messages below hte statement, this screenshot of screenshot shit is getting harder and harder to read and i assure you my eyesight is still 20/20
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@givenup nitter.poast.org/NielsHoven/status/1849484480647684597#m
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@missjanedoe @leespringfield1903 @sickburnbro They are too busy working (both of them), commuting, worrying about paying the bills.
It's not all neglect. A good part is they way we've destroyed the family structure. They are doing what they can within it.
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I think most children would be much happier if they lived in a trailer with their parents around them more. Most people overestimate what children need to be happy. I think giant houses are pretty useless, let your kids share rooms. Heck I’ve seen people buy those cheap larger sheds and fix those out as a tinyish house to live in with their families. Where there’s a will there’s a way.
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Which is a sad reality in of itself. Parents not noticing or caring what their kids were being taught.
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@sickburnbro @missjanedoe School is almost entirely baby sitting for the parents.
You saw this during covid when schools shut down.
Any education is incidental.
Propaganda and ideology take primacy over that.
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@petra @sickburnbro @missjanedoe Parents saw for the first time that teachers are batshit insane ideologues.
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@Angel1313 @NoDoxGregBrady @DMA @JeffTheJoker @Bunsen @EvilSandmich @InvictusManeo But you being a woman means you can never know the fears that men have about babies and families.
Think about this: in the current society men are the only ones punished for failing their families.
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Here's the thing. Unless men can have a period, produce eggs in a uterus and have something that large not only grow in their body, but have it exit the body, you won't understand how scary the entire thing is. To you, it's a beautiful wonder of nature. To a woman it can be incredibly scary, hormones, brain and body go weird. So, the argument that that is the only reason we exist is cavemanesque. Niggers breed like rabbits, has that helped anyone? No, it hasn't. The women were in fact made second class citizens for a long time. I am not a feminist, but I do get hostile when men are condescending, can't see another point of view other than X, and are so stubborn that they don't understand that while they may want to even date a girl, they go about it all wrong and wonder why they are single. I also get angry with women too. I have an incredibly low tolerance for bullshit and being told that "this is the way trite bullshit". It all sounds like a damn cult that can't think for itself so it parrots the same lines over and over until no one listens anymore. Retards can have kids, should they, FUCK NO. Midgets can have kids, same answer.
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@EvilSandmich @Angel1313 @Bunsen @DMA @JeffTheJoker @InvictusManeo @sickburnbro >all she wanted the right to work if she wanted to.
>I get the sentiment, but ally too often That quickly slides into “you have to hire me cuz woman"
This still ignores the more important, far more salient point -
Men aren't working because they 'want' to, they're working because they are 'required' to in order to maintain civilization. Without the work being done, the whole edifice collapses, and quickly.
And the women ALSO have a requirement, which is to rear children. From birth to adulthood, from making babies to engendering the work-ethic.
The entire argument about feminism boils down to: Civilization itself is a default setting that will always exist, I shouldn't have to have children if I don't want to. Men don't have to bear children, they get to go out and do fun stuff. We're being forced to have children. Men are oppressing us. We want the freedom to decide.
And that's the problem. If given the choice, women OF THEIR OWN ACCORD and as a group (NAWALT) choose to not-have children.
Whether they want to work or not is an immaterial discussion.
Whether they are having children, and critically the children of the Men that are maintaining Civilization, is what matters. If they're given the choice, they choose not to. This is the reason why they should not be allowed the choice.
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@Angel1313 @DMA @JeffTheJoker @Bunsen @EvilSandmich @InvictusManeo @NoDoxGregBrady I know all the things you have mentioned as issues for women - I however know that I am an outsider looking in. I will never truly know what it is like to feel those same pressures.
Women in western european countries have never been second class citizens. This is a modern disease looking back and saying "because women weren't allowed to be a king, they were second class citizens" - but that's just not true. Society was not looked at in such an atomized inhumane way. People having a station in life was not seen as a reflection on them. The peasant was not angry at the lord for being a lord - but in fact in some cases would actually feel sorry, because they had obligations to many more people.
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I am married and well aware of the pressures placed upon men from being with a man, having many male friends who had children when we were younger. It's enormous responsibility and many who married ended up with children and divorced. Psycho ex wives are horrible, especially when any child or children are involved which is detrimental to all.
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@Angel1313 @DMA @JeffTheJoker @Bunsen @EvilSandmich @InvictusManeo @NoDoxGregBrady Yes, I've heard stories like this before. What's funny is that when I have guests over I treat them like guests. It seems like many modern women don't find that important.
Granted travel isn't as harrowing as it was in the past, but I still find it a good custom.
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I am speaking in the U.S. Many older men expected women to wait on them hand and foot. An ex boyfriend and I had our father's over for Christmas Eve. We had dinner, I asked everyone if they wanted a drink. I got my father and others present drinks with my ex boyfriend's father declining. 10 minutes later, he looked at me and actually said I am ready for that drink. I looked at him, ready to politely tell him to stick it, when my father (amazing dad), looked at him and said I suggest you get your own drink, she asked us all 10 minutes ago and your tone is not acceptable.