@EvilSandmich @Angel1313 @Bunsen @DMA @JeffTheJoker @InvictusManeo @sickburnbro >all she wanted the right to work if she wanted to.

>I get the sentiment, but ally too often That quickly slides into “you have to hire me cuz woman"

This still ignores the more important, far more salient point -

Men aren't working because they 'want' to, they're working because they are 'required' to in order to maintain civilization. Without the work being done, the whole edifice collapses, and quickly.

And the women ALSO have a requirement, which is to rear children. From birth to adulthood, from making babies to engendering the work-ethic.

The entire argument about feminism boils down to: Civilization itself is a default setting that will always exist, I shouldn't have to have children if I don't want to. Men don't have to bear children, they get to go out and do fun stuff. We're being forced to have children. Men are oppressing us. We want the freedom to decide.

And that's the problem. If given the choice, women OF THEIR OWN ACCORD and as a group (NAWALT) choose to not-have children.

Whether they want to work or not is an immaterial discussion.

Whether they are having children, and critically the children of the Men that are maintaining Civilization, is what matters. If they're given the choice, they choose not to. This is the reason why they should not be allowed the choice.