Everybody that I see getting it repeatedly are vaxxed and boosted. Two weeks ago I was PPE'd up working another corvid unit. Every corvid patient was vaxxed and boosted up the ass. So were my coworkers that tested positive. My facility asked me to get tested and I refused because I (the only un-vaxxed one) had no symptoms.
they may have saved themselves a couple thanks to their initial shots but "vaccinated" people who got vaccinated once 3 years ago aren't very protected today.
And it's not "denying reality" to know what covid does to people
For my side, if I were seeing young, healthy people who didn't get vaxxed dying at high rate and vaxxed not contracting the coof, I would think that it is plausible to probable that the vax worked. (And as I perceive no such thing happening, I think at best the vax did nothing - but suspect it is killing folks.)
Is your reaction because you are seeing the same thing as all of us but interpreting it through a set of priors that lead you to your position, or can you point to something we aren't seeing. I assume it is the prior.
>Jeff, what would it take for you to believe the vaccine didn't work? Like, what would you accept as disproving the null hypothesis.
Stuff like https://heart.bmj.com/content/110/9/635 showing the opposite. Antivaxxers citing people with legitimate concerns and not nutcases like steve kirsch.
> but suspect it is killing folks.)
your suspicions are not founded
> Is your reaction because you are seeing the same thing as all of us but interpreting it through a set of priors that lead you to your position, or can you point to something we aren't seeing. I assume it is the prior.
No, i started with the same set of priors. I didn't think the vaccine would do anything, and that it was likely to kill me *before I got it and got it anyway*.
I was convinced by the evidence
Now up to date vaccines until this past week or two weren't even available here. I think you still might need to book ahead to even get access to a targetting-the-wrong-variant vaccine. It's a total clusterfuck *because the pandemic was allowed to continue to evolve past the vaccine*
Dude, everybody on my FB is tripping and asking why all of our mutuals are dying the last few years. Just had another 2 this week. No prior health issues. All vaccinated. 🧐🤨
Everybody constantly reused disposable masks. These masks were one time use only and should have been thrown into medical waste bins if they were blocking out deadly pathogens. The masks they were pushing were nothing more than surgeons spittle masks. Not a single medical waste bin was set up to dispose of all of these masks containing deadly viruses and pathogens like any other biohazard situation would. Instead of having a medical waste bin on every corner everybody wore them multiple times people used to hang them around the shifter in their car and rewear the same freaking mask day in day out. Also countless tons of these stupid things ended up in the freaking ocean and not a single climate activist is bugging out about the fact that there is endless masks in the sea now.
I couldn't take these people serious when I seen them constantly reusing disposable masks day in and day out and telling me that it was actually helping stop the spread when I knew that stupid piece of paper was completely full of disgusting germs. Not even hospitals were throwing them out into medical waste bins just the regular trash.
> Everybody constantly reused disposable masks. These masks were one time use only and should have been thrown into medical waste bins if they were blocking out deadly pathogens. > The masks they were pushing were nothing more than surgeons spittle masks.
OK just stop. You clearly haven't read the up to date research on how effective those disposable masks actually were.
> Not a single medical waste bin was set up to dispose of all of these masks containing deadly viruses and pathogens like any other biohazard situation would.
And right now schools mandate exposure to that same biohazard / RG3 airborn pathogen , so if we can get to the point where *that* is dealt with then sure we can deal with waste disposal which is not the primary means of infection by a long shot.
> Instead of having a medical waste bin on every corner everybody wore them multiple times people used to hang them around the shifter in their car and rewear the same freaking mask day in day out
If this was happening in your community then sure, that's a problem. People should be wearing clean, effective high quality masks. But let's not lose sight of what happened next; people just up and deciding to ditch the masks and mass-infect with the biohazard
> Also countless tons of these stupid things ended up in the freaking ocean and not a single climate activist is bugging out about the fact that there is endless masks in the sea now.
OK first of all, if it is true that they are in the ocean and they are made of carbon that is potentially a long-term sink since they don't degreade very much, so climate-wise that's not a bad thing. Obviously we could be doing better at dealing with biohazardous waste such as masks though to direct it outside of the ocean.
What was different is we had no way to even identify, isolate and test the pathogen in question for koch's postulates. We didn't have the capacity to reconstruct viruses or even know what DNA/RNA was. We don't have these excuses today.
not doing the vaxx or mask thing .. barely (begrudgingly) wore masks the first time .. moved away from the niggerfaggot state i lived in ... real White people get way less sick
I know you don't know English, but the word "Flu" is commonly used by people to describe clusters of symptoms caused by various viruses, and not just the influenza virus.
people who have sex without a condom are 'trying to get pregnant' and if you have reason to expect your partner is HIV+ you are 'trying to get HIV'
people who don't wear a mask when exposed to likely-to-be-infectious people/outbreak hotspots/superspreader events are 'trying to get covid'. They are 'chasing' the bug that is SARS2.
or are you denying the existence of covid altogether? in which case, what other viruses don't exist? SARS1? MERS? all viruses?
its a flu virus , smartguy it doesnt cause brain damage , or other debilitating symptoms .. if people medicate against it , we could have "herd immunity" gene therapy isnt the answer
Colds and flus are just what we call your immune response to a very large list of viruses which cause little to no symptoms in and of themselves. That's why it can be hard to tell a mild cold from bad allergies; they're the same thing.
the government AGREES WITH YOU they don't wear or require masks for anything. Hell joe biden was out and about INFECTED WITH COVID without a mask in public
YOU are the one who has been brainwashed by the government
> The us government funded the covid research in wuhan China, but sure trust the government.
they funded *bat coronavirus* research in wuhan
which was, in retrospect, a very smart thing to do because that's *exactly where the world-fucking pandemic originated*
> No masks,
the "no masks" thing was a mistake, mostly done because the supply of masks wasn't good in the US specifically, (especially due to the POTUS in 2020 playing politics with access to PPE)
> double your masks
again: this is mostly due to non-availability of high-quality masks. it's a hack
> take the shot you won't get covid,
There was since day #1 a risk that if not enough people got the vaccine, and enough mutation occurred, that it would evolve around the protection offered by the vaccine.
> health people dropping like flies due to blood clots nope nothing to do with the shot
It's not. Covid is a vascular disease - it CAUSES blood clots. The vaccine *reduces* the amount of blood clot problems overall https://heart.bmj.com/content/110/9/635
> can't sue pharmaceutical companies,
Outside of your shithole country 'suing the companies' isn't seen as some kind of thing that normal people would do. It's *weird* to even suggest suing a pharma company
@brigrammer@jeffcliff@fknretardlol@Humpleupagus@D1kTater@brittbratt_fingerpuppet@feralphilosophernc@RR@placebo@Ovpod The us government funded the covid research in wuhan China, but sure trust the government. No masks, double your masks, take the shot you won't get covid, oh people with four shots still get covid, health people dropping like flies due to blood clots nope nothing to do with the shot, can't sue pharmaceutical companies, nope nothing to see here, FUCKING KIKES!
>they (US and Chinese regime) were claiming wet markets at Wuhan,
That is where covid originated, the wuhan wet market.
> the bat soup was something people learned about later
name them.
> (the Wuhan wet market didn't have bats,
[[citation needed]]. as of the past few months, the exact animals in question are still unknown.
> which is why people...checks notes...concluded it was the super high danger bat coronavirus research lab right near the first outbreaks)
People would have made that connection sooner or later regardless whether there was bats in the meat market or not. A bat coronavirus research lab right near the first outbreaks is suspicious AF.
until closer inspection determined that the first few cases *did not come from the lab* but rather the meat market.