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   Laffy (gottalaff@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 01:58:30 JST Laffy

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   @JonChevreau He’s said he’s against that, for years now. @taatm @stux @falcennial

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     M.S. Bellows, Jr. (msbellows@c.im)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 01:58:27 JST M.S. Bellows, Jr.

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     @GottaLaff @taatm @JonChevreau @stux @falcennial FWIW, the immunity ruling says presidents can't be prosecuted for official acts, not that whatever the president does is lawful. Even under this ruling, no president can just decree that the Supreme Court now has 21 members. Nor does it suspend habeas corpus: if Biden orders Trump arrested and held without trial, the courts will order him released.

     (Those powers won't come until later, when there's a GOP president again.)

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     Laffy (gottalaff@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 01:58:28 JST Laffy

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     @taatm Yes, he is wrong. He worries it will backfire if GOP are in charge. Meantime, it could help tremendously. @JonChevreau @stux @falcennial

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     The Animal and the Machine (taatm@mathstodon.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 01:58:29 JST The Animal and the Machine

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     @GottaLaff @JonChevreau @stux @falcennial
     Indeed he did say that and he is wrong.

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     Mark Hogue (asp_zuc@mathstodon.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:07:21 JST Mark Hogue

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     @msbellows @clintruin @ralfmaximus @GottaLaff @taatm @JonChevreau @stux @falcennial Seems to me you don't fire the Supreme Court. You send (vial military abduction) the six traitors to Guantanamo for a military tribunal. Meanwhile, SCOTUS consists of three qualified justices.

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     Kid Mania (clintruin@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:07:22 JST Kid Mania

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     @ralfmaximus @msbellows @GottaLaff @taatm @JonChevreau @stux @falcennial

     If Donald Trump takes office and begins ordering public executions...is this an "official act"?

     One argument -- of course -- would be that since it had been decreed from the Oval Office, obviously this is an "official act".

     Following this logic, if Biden fires the Supreme Court while in the Oval Office is this not an "official act"?

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     M.S. Bellows, Jr. (msbellows@c.im)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:07:22 JST M.S. Bellows, Jr.

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     @clintruin @ralfmaximus @GottaLaff @taatm @JonChevreau @stux @falcennial If "firing the Supreme Court" were deemed an official act, then the president who tried to do so couldn't be personally prosecuted for it, which isn't the same as "the rest of the government would follow along." Chief Justice Roberts would still show up for work the next day, lawyers would appear and argue, etc. The "firing" order would still be unconstitutional and void.

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     RalfMaximus (ralfmaximus@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 02:07:23 JST RalfMaximus

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     @msbellows @GottaLaff @taatm @JonChevreau @stux @falcennial

     > Those powers won't come until later, when there's a GOP president again.

     Precisely this. Even if Biden decides to invoke Dark Brandon and go this route, the Republicans would pull every dirty trick imaginable to negate the action. THEN use it as ammunition to 'prove' Biden is worse than Trump, threatening the election. Independents will not vote for Biden, the benign dictator.

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     Bluedepth (bluedepth@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 06:15:30 JST Bluedepth

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     @asp_zuc @Crystal_Fish_Caves @msbellows @clintruin @ralfmaximus @GottaLaff @taatm @JonChevreau @stux @falcennial Seven year term limit for all public servants. Lifetime. Once you run, and your term is up, you cannot touch any other elected office for the rest of your life. Lifetime ban on lobbying. Violations of this rule are ten years in a supermax prison. General population. That would fix so so much.

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     EarthOne (earthone24@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jul-2024 06:16:20 JST EarthOne

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     @Bluedepth @asp_zuc @Crystal_Fish_Caves @msbellows @clintruin @ralfmaximus @GottaLaff @taatm @JonChevreau @stux @falcennial Specify if you work in our Intelligence Agencies, EVER, you are restricted from then working as a foreign agent of any kind in future. Period. Charged with spying if you do.