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   Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 17:38:08 JST Fish of Rage
   Wish there was something like the Pico-8 but free software.
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 17:38:59 JST Fish of Rage

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     Wait just use JavaScript and html canvas
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     :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 17:45:24 JST :blank:

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     @p @sun like https://github.com/nesbox/TIC-80 or https://github.com/picolove/picolove
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 17:45:25 JST pistolero

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     @sun Find an implementation that respects your freedoms. :ohgno:
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     Piggo :verified_horse: (piggo@piggo.space)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 17:45:47 JST Piggo :verified_horse:

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     @sun you can even run a lua runtime crosscompiled to wasm probably
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 18:49:49 JST pistolero

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     @i @sun If he gets it done, then I say to let him have as much coke as he wants.
     
     > Build Prerequisites
     > Qt6 development packages and a C++23 capable compiler are required
     
     :alexjonesshock:
     
     > nix
     
     :alexjoneswarface2:
     
     > only runs on Wayland
     
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     > Ladybird is licensed under a 2-clause BSD license.
     
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     > The official project language is American English with ISO 8601 dates and metric units.
     
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     > There is no mailing list
     > "Join our Discord server to participate in development discussion."
     
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     Yeah, fuck it, I'd rather bolt quickjs onto Netsurf than touch this bullshit.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 18:49:50 JST pistolero

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     @i @sun Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The most accessible programming environment we have, and there are a half-dozen implementations, none of which are GPL'd because GNU guys are busy shitting up the compiler to please Oracle and Microsoft and Apple and putting flags onto Unix utilities to placate fictitious normies that they imagine will need those flags, though these flags will never be used and only create a maintenance burden because normies click the Bluetooth logo in Gnome and then post in the Ubuntu forums if it doesn't work.
     
     I mean, the point of the GNU project was not to clone Unix to provide an environment that was friendly to hackers, primarily by ensuring that it was and stayed hackable. Unix compatibility was a target because the industry wanted Unix, and being compatible helped free it all up. The industry no longer gives a shit about POSIX or SUS or any of that, they put shit into a Docker container and everything else is all browsers. It's great fun to shit up the compiler, but once Mozilla went retarded and the only free one died, the most prevalent development environment in human history entered the control of the large vendors. GNU declared "Mission Accomplished, we have Unix now" without noticing that the playing field had moved.
     
     So now we sit around hacking this retard system that has proprietary video codecs built into the goddamn specification because Mozilla is now Google's second vote at the W3C. No one wants to make a browser: why would you? I imagine that in the 80s, reimplementing Unix and C was about as distasteful to the Lisp hackers as reimplementing the browser would be for most Unix hackers, but we don't have an :rms: saying "We need to do this, come help, I'll do it myself if no one else does." And he's a *boomer*. How many programmers do we have on the earth, and no one's doing this?
     
     Well, Fabrice is on part of the problem, at least: https://bellard.org/quickjs/ . I don't wanna write a CSS3/HTML5 layout engine from scratch so that it can be AGPLv3'd, do you? Nobody does. So here we are, and we'll be here a while.
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     :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 18:49:50 JST :blank:

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     @p @sun there's https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird, but we'll have to see if Kling doesn't go back to his coke habit given the recent million dollar non profit foundation
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     :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 18:49:52 JST :blank:

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     @p @sun i'm not sure spidermonkey/javascriptcore could be considered any more free than v8 at this point
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 18:49:53 JST pistolero

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     @i @sun I meant an implementation of JS/<canvas>, but it is cool to have these around.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 21:44:46 JST pistolero

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     @bonifartius @i @sun
     
     > netsurf is GPL, exists for decades, works pretty well and doesn't get any funding.
     
     It is slow as balls but it is good enough for many purposes and it runs on Plan 9.
     
     > probably pure coincidence.
     
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     :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 21:44:47 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄

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     @p @i @sun no politics is good, yeah. at least in theory *puts on tinfoil hat

     given that it's BSD i do suspect they mean "free software isn't freedom because one can't do closed source with it!!1" with that though :tiredcat:

     netsurf is GPL, exists for decades, works pretty well and doesn't get any funding.

     someone comes along, uses the most bloaty and big tech controlled stack possible and receives $1M.

     probably pure coincidence.

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     :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 21:44:48 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄

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     @p @i @sun this is worse than i expected, tbh.

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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 21:44:48 JST pistolero

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     @bonifartius @i @sun I expected it to be a thing I would be upset by but that I could potentially imagine helping out with for the sake of hacking the planet. It is actually the worst in every imaginable case except one, the "Contributing" document says "This is a technical project, don't politics it up".
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     jesu (jesu@pl.kotobank.ch)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 21:51:48 JST jesu

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     @sun I'd like a cheaper pico-8 player
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 21:53:07 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @p @i @sun Also you need Skia (from google…) as rendering engine.
     
     I know basically everyone is switching to it (partially due to Cairo massive lack of maintenance) but apparently no one creating an alternative or picking up Cairo just sucks.
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     :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 21:53:56 JST :blank:

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     @bonifartius @p @sun their new and old logo really seal in the direction the project is going
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     syzygy (syzygy@gh0st.live)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 21:54:35 JST syzygy

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     @p @pernia @i @sun
     I rent out his oauth tokens to Vietnamese porn sites, I've made $1200 doing this.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 21:54:36 JST pistolero

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     @pernia @i @sun You must have been talking to me, I was tagged.
     
     > my account has been compromised
     
     "Someone else was downloading and posting all that gay porn." I have heard that one before, sir.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 21:54:38 JST pistolero

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     @pernia @i @sun No.
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     þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 21:54:38 JST þernia

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     @p @i @sun i wasnt talking to u, my account has been compromised for the last few months
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     þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 21:54:39 JST þernia

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     @p @i @sun I NEVER FUCKING TYPED THIS GET OUT OF MY FUCKINH ACCOUNT
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     þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 21:54:41 JST þernia

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     @p @i @sun isnt the affero part only useful for serverside shit?
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 21:54:42 JST pistolero

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     @pernia @i @sun AGPLv3.
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     þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jul-2024 21:54:43 JST þernia

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     @p @i @sun > :alexjonesfight:
     How would GPL'ing a browser help the situation?
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jul-2024 02:37:42 JST pistolero

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     @RedTechEngineer @0 @i @sun Oh. Nothing I have installed on this machine will open that image. Apparently it is very recent and designed by Google. :vomit:
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     @p @i @RedTechEngineer @0 @sun ironic that a format google helped to design is one they refuse to support on all their products (tbh I think they just had some involvement in order to sabotage it in favor of their own inferior webp and avif formats)
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     RedTechEngineer (redtechengineer@fedi.lowpassfilter.link)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jul-2024 02:37:43 JST RedTechEngineer

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     @p @i @0 @sun no JXL https://files.shittyurl.org/raw/el98kq0d.jxl (218 Bytes)
     
     You can view the image of browsers like netsurf, waterfox, thorium, or gnome web/epiphany
     
     would attach the image to this post but pleroma doesn't let you post anything if you try to upload a jxl until you reload the tab (its been like this for years lain pls fix 😭 )
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jul-2024 02:37:44 JST pistolero

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     @RedTechEngineer @0 @i @sun
     
     > legacy jpeg.
     
     :terrywat: Eh?
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     RedTechEngineer (redtechengineer@fedi.lowpassfilter.link)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jul-2024 02:37:45 JST RedTechEngineer

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     @0 @i @p @sun shill lion browser still only supports legacy jpeg.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jul-2024 02:37:46 JST pistolero

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     @0 @RedTechEngineer @i @sun It's always more cost-effective to find something than turn a thing into a thing.
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     @p @i @RedTechEngineer @sun
     
     So as long as the frequency of half-built yet somehow useful nodes isn't direly rare that's smart, but if you run out of people that can do the thing... might find yourself at 3 am choosing between Firefox and Brave. Functional losses in efficiency-maxing.
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     @p @i @RedTechEngineer @sun
     
     > Taking a random person and altering their feed until they become a working node? Not feasible.
     
     Skill issue.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jul-2024 02:37:48 JST pistolero

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     @RedTechEngineer @i @sun That is the central problem and it is always easier to use a thing you already have than a thing that spends half of its build instructions explaining how to get a C++23 compiler onto your computer, a thing that is not present in most distributions of every OS.
     peoplenode.png
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     RedTechEngineer (redtechengineer@fedi.lowpassfilter.link)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jul-2024 02:37:49 JST RedTechEngineer

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     @p @i @sun does this browser make it easier or harder to see boobs on the internet?
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     RedTechEngineer (redtechengineer@fedi.lowpassfilter.link)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jul-2024 02:37:50 JST RedTechEngineer

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     @p @i @sun
     >pisscord
     
     Damn, this project really is DOA isn't it?
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     @RedTechEngineer @i @sun If it's not meaningfully different, it's hard to guess why anyone would use it.
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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jul-2024 02:40:07 JST 

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     @allison @i @RedTechEngineer @p @0 @sun How many years it took Google to concede and implement APNG?
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     @mint @i @RedTechEngineer @p @0 @sun entirely too many
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     @p @i @RedTechEngineer @0 @sun software patents and their consequences, you know the deal
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     @allison @0 @RedTechEngineer @i @sun Yeah, I've actually disabled webp entirely after the stupid webp bug. I don't think there's a compelling reason to use it. webm has brought nothing but trouble.
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     @p @i @0 @allison @sun as far as i'm aware google wasn't involved much with JXL and it's mostly JPEG's work with some tech borrowed from Google's PIK and Cloudinary's FUIF. Google is pushing AVIF now which is just webp but with AV1 instead of VP8.
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     0 (https://gh0st.live/users/0)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jul-2024 03:10:37 JST 0

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     @p @i @RedTechEngineer @allison @sun
     
     > image compression algo geeks when I tell them disk is cheap: :digitalscream:
     
     > me when they load 200mb of js for static text and tell me cpu is cheap: :suicide:
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jul-2024 03:10:38 JST pistolero

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     @RedTechEngineer @0 @allison @i @sun :shitassdickfuckfluoride: It has the taint of fluoride.
     
     Is there a reason to use it?
     eric_schmidt_mirror_suit.jpe
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jul-2024 04:54:10 JST pistolero

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     • RedTechEngineer????????
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     @RedTechEngineer @i @pernia @sun
     laughingoctopus.gif
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     @p @pernia @i @sun it was all an elaborate joke
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     @RedTechEngineer @i @SilverDeth @p @0 @sun adobe creative suite 3
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     @p @allison @0 @RedTechEngineer @i @sun Any graphics format which makes me hunt down extensions for CS3 is poison.
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     @SilverDeth @i @p @0 @allison @sun CS3?
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     @lanodan @i @sun
     
     > Also you need Skia (from google…) as rendering engine.
     
     :vomit:
     
     > but apparently no one creating an alternative or picking up Cairo just sucks.
     
     Eh, Cairo sucks.
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     @RedTechEngineer @i @SilverDeth @p @0 @sun probably learned it sometime in the late 2000s and never branched out to anything else
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     @allison @i @SilverDeth @p @0 @sun ew, why are you running adobe malware?