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Ghast (ghast@liberdon.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 22:23:37 JST Ghast
- mk
- Ob’i-Hahn 🏴‍☠️
@mk
You're kidding, right?
@obihahn

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  mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 22:23:36 JST mk
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  what's your position?
  that you can become obese without a calorie surplus?
  
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  mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 22:40:53 JST mk
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  "What you eat matters"
  no it does not.
  when you're on a caloric deficit, you WILL NOT GET OBESE.
  it does not matter what you eat.
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  Ghast (ghast@liberdon.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 22:40:55 JST Ghast
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  @mk
  My position is that humans are complex systems.
  Your comment ignores:
  >What you eat matters
  >The state of one's digestive system matters
  >One's overall nutritional gaps matter
  >Activity level matters
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  mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 22:54:45 JST mk
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  "Odd, all current investigation into the gut biome disagrees with you."
  what's your definition of "calorie deficit"?
  
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  Ghast (ghast@liberdon.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 22:54:47 JST Ghast
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  Odd, all current investigation into the gut biome disagrees with you.
  Odd, as digestibility (what your body can extract from a food) can vary wildly.
  Odd, as I explicitly stated one's activity level, which you've chosen to ignore.
  You continue to state "deficit", yet you ignore that's different from the total calories stuffed in one's gob. Which is the OP graph.
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  mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 23:00:45 JST mk
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  do you disagree with these?
  calorie deficit definitions:
  "when a person consumes less calories than they burn"
  https://www.google.com/search?channel=fs&client=ubuntu&q=calorie+deficit
  "when you burn more calories than you consume"
  https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/calorie-deficit
  "Consuming fewer calories than your body burns is a ‘calorie deficit’ that can lead to weight loss"
  https://health.clevelandclinic.org/calorie-deficit
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    What Is a Calorie Deficit, and How Much of One Is Healthy?
    
    from Gavin Van De Walle, MS, RD
    
    If you've ever tried to lose weight, you've likely heard that you need a calorie deficit. This article explains what a calorie deficit is and how to get one in a healthy way.
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    What Is Calorie Deficit?
    
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    A calorie deficit means eating fewer calories than you burn. But it’s essential to still get the protein you need. A registered dietitian explains how to safely do a calorie deficit.
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  mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 23:01:58 JST mk
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  god damn you're one retarded nigger.
  
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  Ghast (ghast@liberdon.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 23:02:01 JST Ghast
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  Read my post, you dishonest cunt.
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  EvolLove (evollove@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 23:27:35 JST EvolLove
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  Pretty hard to be on a diet without caring for what to eat.
  Also processed food contra raw food is treated different. The less processed it is. The harder it is for the body to obtain what's in it. Including calories.
  So if you eat your calories fill based on candy and potatoe chips or if you eat steak, it's a huge difference.
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  mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 23:27:35 JST mk
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  i said: "when you're on a calorie deficit, you WILL NOT GET OBESE."
  do you disagree?
  
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  EvolLove (evollove@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 23:38:49 JST EvolLove
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  I do intermediate fsting.
  I don't eat food until dinner.
  I skip breakfast and lunch. And I'm losing a lot of weight. I eat a lot for dinner and after dinner. I even eat late snacks.
  I try to focus more on meat and fish and egg and try to cut down on bread and potatoe and rice. But I still eat those.
  Even though I'm fairly convinced that bread, pasta and pizza is something no one actually need. But it's difficult to cut it out.
  Anyhow. My diet is working really good.
  
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  mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 23:38:49 JST mk
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  why don't you answer my questions?
  
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  mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 23:48:29 JST mk
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  activity doesn't matter, because i was talking about calorie deficit and surplus.
  It's ALL calories burned vs consumed.
  here's the definition:
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    @ghast@liberdon.com @obihahn@noauthority.social do you disagree with these? calorie deficit definitions: "when a person consumes less calories than they burn" https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/calorie-deficit "when you burn more calories than you consume" https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/calorie-deficit "Consuming fewer calories than your body burns is a ‘calorie deficit’ that can lead to weight loss" https://health.clevelandclinic.org/calorie-deficit
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  Yeah... It's an equation with two sides, caloric intake and caloric output. If you take two people, and one of them is sitting there posting on Twitter all day and the other one is riding in the tour de france, it should be self-evident that if they are eating the same amount the outcome will be significantly different.
  
  So let's take another situation, two people sitting on Twitter all day, but the basal metabolic rate is slightly higher in one than the other. We know that certain things affect the basal metabolic rate such as general activity levels or genetics, and potentially certain foods may it affect that as well.
  
  The composition of the food can also make a big difference. As I recall, the test for caloric intake of food basically involves burning the food in a controlled manner. Well there are things that are highly calorie dense but also somewhat inedible. For example, a piece of wood is made out of all kinds of carbon that will burn, but it is insoluble fiber when it comes to our body's ability to break down and use those calories, and so it will basically leave the body the same way that it entered. If you have one person eating 2,000 calories of wood and another person eating 2,000 calories of sugar the body is definitely going to be interacting with those two things in a fundamentally different way, and so one person will starve and the other person will be more or less just fine.
  
  The nutrients contained in food can also have a big difference. When I first started taking vitamin b complex, I was shocked I just how much energy he gave me, because vitamin B is critical in helping your body process fat.
  
  All of this is true, but it's important when trying to lose weight not to get bogged down in details -- in that case calories are the easiest way to gauge where you are and where you're likely to go, but we're not talking about individual weight loss here but the populations, and given the date points we're looking at the details start to matter.
  
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  mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 23:51:39 JST mk
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  "But he's desperate to be right, he'll try a redirect or smear."
  what did i say that's wrong?
  
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  Ghast (ghast@liberdon.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 23:51:40 JST Ghast
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  That's a great overview, yes. Only nuance that jumps out to me is differences in gut biome.
  So, all of this refutes @mk 's assertion the initial graph/post cannot happen.
  But he's desperate to be right, he'll try a redirect or smear.
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  mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 23:55:58 JST mk
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  is this wrong then?
  "How to calculate calorie deficit[..]Mifflin-Saint Jeor formula considers your height, weight, sex, age and activity level — which makes it less generic than other calorie calculators,” notes Czerwony."
  https://health.clevelandclinic.org/calorie-deficit
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    A calorie deficit means eating fewer calories than you burn. But it’s essential to still get the protein you need. A registered dietitian explains how to safely do a calorie deficit.
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  Ghast (ghast@liberdon.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 23:55:59 JST Ghast
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  LMAO activity level doesn't enter into a caloric equation.
  You're dumber than any commie or tranny.
  @sj_zero @obihahn
  
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  mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 23:57:25 JST mk
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  so everything was right then.
  great. thank you so much
  
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  Ghast (ghast@liberdon.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 23:57:26 JST Ghast
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  You're so stupid and outclassed, I'm beginning to feel bad.
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  mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 00:02:08 JST mk
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  "he'll try a redirect or smear."
  you didn't answer any of questions.
  how am i the one redirecting?
  
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  Ghast (ghast@liberdon.com)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 00:02:09 JST Ghast
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  Called it.
  https://mastodon.satoshishop.de/@mk/112349429244645353
  @mk @obihahn
  
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  mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 00:10:56 JST mk
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  hmm no answer...i guess it's not wrong then.
  boy. i hope you didn't pay much for your education.
  
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  ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 00:37:10 JST ≠
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  intermediate fisting is great
  
  just to the elbow thanks
  
  no bicep
  
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  mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 00:37:10 JST mk
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  his avatar says "factcheck" he must be the authority on truth then.
  
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  mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 00:58:42 JST mk
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  so you missclicked on my-posts-reply-button or you just didn't give a fuck about what i wrote?
  
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  EvolLove (evollove@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 00:58:43 JST EvolLove
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  I responded to the post link material picture thingy that stated more obese even though same calorie intake.
  
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  EvolLove (evollove@noauthority.social)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 01:21:19 JST EvolLove
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  Your also claiming that what you eat doesn't matter and that's were we disagree
  Your diet will affect and change your metabolism. Your metabolism plays a huge factor in how your body will either burn or retain energy
  You can even lose weight by eating bad food. There are also those who are fat but they lose their hair due to insufficient intake of essential nutrition. Loss of intestional function
  So what you eat matters. Garbage in garbage out. Its not just about calories
  
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  mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 01:21:19 JST mk
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  "Your also claiming that what you eat doesn't matter and that's were we disagree"
  do you lose weight, when you're in a calorie deficit and only eat butter?
  
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  osc3r (osc3r@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 13:36:08 JST osc3r
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  @ghast @mk @obihahn @EvolLove yes, if you are on a 1800 calorie diet and you eat 1799 . Technically, you're on a calorie deficit and you would gain weight if you sat around the house all day and watched Netflix.
  yes, that's a dick comment but it is true and as you get older, activity in calorie intake become more important.
  
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