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feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:04 JST feld
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@realcaseyrollins Pregnancy is a huge financial burden. You have to take time off your job, go to lots of doctor appointments, etc, and not all of it is guaranteed to be covered by private insurance or supplemental state programs. You may be forced to take bed rest for months. If you did IVF treatments you forked out tens of thousands of dollars getting pregnant.

So if you could take out a policy that would pay out if your pregnancy was terminated, why wouldn’t you? It’s a risk. Hedge against it.

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  feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:05 JST feld
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  @realcaseyrollins please restate your question clearly as I don't understand what you're asking
  
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  casey is remote (realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:05 JST casey is remote
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  @feld Why would one "have to be crazy to not take out insurance policies on your unborn child"?
  
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  casey is remote (realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:06 JST casey is remote
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  @feld @nicholas @icare4america @Zennagain @magicalthinking That doesn't exactly answer my question lol
  
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  casey is remote (realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:07 JST casey is remote
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  @feld @nicholas @icare4america @Zennagain @magicalthinking Why?
  
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  feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:07 JST feld
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  @realcaseyrollins @nicholas @icare4america @Zennagain @magicalthinking are you telling me you don't have a life insurance policy on yourself, your partner, and your kids (if applicable)?
  
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  casey is remote (realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:08 JST casey is remote
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  @feld @nicholas @icare4america @Zennagain @magicalthinking The fact that anybody thinks that would feasibly happen is pretty funny lol
  
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  feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:08 JST feld
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  @realcaseyrollins @nicholas @icare4america @Zennagain @magicalthinking I don't know what you're referring to here; if this was allowed you'd have to be crazy to not take out insurance policies on your unborn child. That is an absolute no-brainer of a financial decision.
  
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  Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:09 JST Nicholas Conrad
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  They do when for instance a drunk driver causes an accident that ends a pregnancy prematurely. The arbitrariness with which they do or don't count as human is to me the most disturbing part of the whole thing.
  
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  feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:09 JST feld
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  @nicholas @icare4america @Zennagain @magicalthinking @realcaseyrollins Imagine if you could take out a life insurance policy the instant you get a positive result on a pregnancy test. 10-20% of pregnancies result in miscarriages... it would be crazy.
  
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  casey is remote (realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:10 JST casey is remote
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  "What do you mean, the government says I can't kill my child? How dare they! Stay out of my business"
  
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  feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:10 JST feld
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  @realcaseyrollins @magicalthinking @nicholas @icare4america @Zennagain if the fetus is a child, we need to start measuring age from date of conception, start collecting child support in those cases, Medicaid needs to kick in, etc etc. It gets REALLY messy if you want to legally classify an unborn or severely undeveloped clump of human-derived cells as a legal person. This is part of the problem why nobody wants to really double down and deal with it because they'll be forced to legally enshrine concepts that will have such severe consequences. It's simpler to just say "abortion bad" and hand-wave away the root of the problem.
  
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  feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:11 JST feld
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  @nicholas @Zennagain @icare4america @realcaseyrollins in fact, as we are discussing this specific mention of the 10th Amendment, let me give you a taste of what's in Black's Law Dictionary
  
  > But today the Tenth Amendment provides only a limited check on Congress's power to regulate the states. Cf. SEPARATION OF POWERS. [Cases: States 🔑 4.16.]
  
  edit: the [Cases: States 🔑 4.16.] is referring to an index of citations in the West Key-Number system used by lawyers. I'd link the citations this is referring to so you can see the whole history of caselaw and rulings, but that system is limited in access to lawyers and legal firms.
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  🌈Delusional Thinking (magicalthinking@noauthority.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:11 JST 🌈Delusional Thinking
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  Everyone in government just wanted to be rid of ROE because it was a terrible decision and made everyone look bad. The SCOTUS had to hear at least 2 cases each year, challenging and then supporting it. The parties used it to fundraise but never actually DID anything about it. Trump sending it to the states was a reasonable solution and he's correct that you don't want a President of either party telling you how to live your life.
  
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  feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:12 JST feld
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  @nicholas @icare4america @Zennagain @realcaseyrollins You have delegated it if you live in America. It is part of the social contract of which you receive the benefits of daily by using and accessing public goods and services, being protected by our military, etc etc.
  
  If you wish to reject it you're free to give up your citizenship and move somewhere else.
  
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  feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:13 JST feld
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  > reality exists, words have meaning
  
  Words have meaning because we have a shared agreement on what the meaning is. When it comes to our Constitution we've delegated the power of interpretation to the individuals on the SCOTUS.
  
  You can't "opt-out" of this.
  
  There is literally no situation in which you can defend yourself in the USA by saying "Well I think the Constitution's words actually mean this instead".
  
  edit: you seem to forget the existence of Black's Law Dictionary and Ballentine's Law Dictionary. These are the basis of our understanding of many words and phrases. If there's a special definition of what e.g., "are reserved to" means, then that's what is followed by the Courts. It doesn't matter if 300 million Americans read that same phrase and interpret it differently than lawyers and judges.
  
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  Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:13 JST Nicholas Conrad
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  I haven't delegated a darn thing to anyone. In case you couldn't tell from my pfp, I'm a bit too young to have signed the constitution, m8.
  
  Sure, they pay violent mercenary force to carry out their "orders", what does that have to do with anything? A group of guy corner you in a dark ally and tell you have one of their wallets.... You may hand over **your** wallet, it doesn't mean they were correct. Power has no relationship to truth.
  
  #therearefourlights!
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  Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:14 JST Nicholas Conrad
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  This is postmodern claptrap. When the state legislates an alternate "definition" of pi, all the wheels don't magically change shape. Reality exists, words have meaning, and nine self-important potifs parading around in oprah's discarded cocktail dresses having a taxpayer-funded debate club has no pertinence.
  
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  Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:15 JST Nicholas Conrad
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  >You don't have to care what planets moving in retrograde tells you because the pope's pre-heliocentric model is all that matters.
  
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  feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:15 JST feld
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  THEN: If you don't like what the pope decides on these matters, you better be prepared to overthrow the church
  
  NOW: If you don't like what SCOTUS decides on these matters, you better be prepared to overthrow the government
  
  Your personal opinion on these matters has no pertinence.
  
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  Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:16 JST Nicholas Conrad
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  >The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
  
  —United States Constitution, Amendment X
  
  If it's not in the Constitution, that means it is a States issue. I don't care what scotus said, I can read the darn thing for myself.
  
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  feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:16 JST feld
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  @nicholas @icare4america @Zennagain @realcaseyrollins > I don't care what scotus said, I can read the darn thing for myself.
  
  you have to care what SCOTUS said, because the SCOTUS interpretation of the Constitution is all that matters
  
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  Zennblack (zennagain@noauthority.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:17 JST Zennblack
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  So he is just reiterating what SCOTUS said. 👍States should decide. I always thought this even before I knew anything about politics. You can leave a state a lot easier then leaving the country. My Libtard friends did not agree. Federal law was fine with them as long as they agreed with the Feds. Retards moved out of Libtard CT because the morons made it too expensive to live here! Good luck North Carolina. 🤮
  
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  casey is remote (realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:17 JST casey is remote
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  @Zennagain @icare4america Huh? I'm pretty sure that #SCOTUS said that there's no constitutional right to abortion, not that it is something to be left to the states. Those are two very distinct and different things.
  
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  Icare4America (icare4america@freeatlantis.com)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:26:18 JST Icare4America
  
  For those having trouble seeing this on Truth Social
  Here is President Trump Statement on abortion he just released.
  https://news.sky.com/video/donald-trump-individual-states-should-determine-abortion-rights-13110833
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