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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:35 JST 
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@Xenophon do we ever hell thread about apocrypha...Book of Watchers...in particular... -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:22 JST
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@Xenophon @blankdeblank @Will2Power longer answer is...I wonder if there are some important lessons we (in a general sense) are ignoring that although maybe not strictly necessary for our salvation might promote salvation in general...protestants disregarding Tobit for instance...is that part of an explanation for the degeneracy and abortion rates of today...or historically is the arian heresy the reason so many Christian kingdoms and cities fell to the Muslims... BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:23 JST
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@blankdeblank @Xenophon @Will2Power Short answer no...i want a hellthread... -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:23 JST 
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Also He doesnt love niggers because they aren't human, innit -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:24 JST
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I dont think tge ethiopian church is niggers fwiw. What im sayijg is enoch was never added to a bible in the apocryphal section, to my knowledge. -
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blankdeblank (blankdeblank@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:24 JST 
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I don't know people split hairs so much it's kind of silly no offence. God loves you and he loves what you look like and he even loves your race and doesn't want you to destroy yourself or lessen who you are. Because he loves you and everything about you is that not good enough ? -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:25 JST
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:25 JST
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@Xenophon @Will2Power Not a believer in the Ethiopian church 😂😂😂 -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:26 JST
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I fully believe most apocrypha. Enoch isnt part of it though -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:26 JST
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@Xenophon @Will2Power I don't know what that means...are you saying Enoch isn't a part of a canonical list of apocrypha...or just that Enoch isn't one you believe... -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:27 JST
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Its hard to answer without soumding like im making excuses, but i guess i am. IF this is actually the words of Enoch, the thing is, we have no idea of knowing what God showed him or why. What I mean is, its clear the Jesus referred to himself as the son of God, but for the reason I explained (as well as others) He actually must also BE God. God is one. He appears in many more than 3 forms, so its just a human construct to imagine this "triune" God instead of the one infinite God.
46 seems like it is describing Yahweh God but also Jesus, but Jesus is God. How do I know Enoch could comprehend this, especially without know what or why Jesus would be? -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:27 JST
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@Xenophon @Will2Power Ok...so I asked if you would interpret it differently or ignore it...your answer is more a third route where you are saying this could even be Enoch's actual vision but it is too much even for him and us to interpret it...for this thread I'm more interested in people's reaction to the apocrypha rather than debating any particular point (trinitarianism in this example or michael=Jesus heresy above)... -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:28 JST
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@Xenophon @Will2Power According to the internet the book of watchers ends at Enoch 36. But there is maybe this verse within it in Enoch 10:1
1 Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech,
or in a different online version
1 Then the most high declared, and the Great Holy One spoke.
I imagine the 3 fold or two fold sort of name repetitions in The Bible don't convince you generally, so I don't see this one from the book of watchers winning you over. More just interested in your thoughts on the more explicit kind of language like in those chapters of enoch that are just after the book of watchers. -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:28 JST
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So i dont think these are just outright forgeries, like its all or nothing. I think its probably a retelling or interpolation of something that was legitimate, so you have to compare it to what you know is true to search for the truth in it -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:28 JST
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@Xenophon @Will2Power So I'm assuming then that in your view my interpretation of the Chapter 46 passage for instance is in conflict with what you already believe to be true...so would you look for /come to another interpretation of those words or read around it??? -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:29 JST
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@Xenophon @Will2Power Ok so I've got 1 Encoh 46:1-3
1 And there I saw One who had a head of days,
And His head was white like wool,
And with Him was another being whose countenance had the appearance of a man,
And his face was full of graciousness, like one of the holy angels.
2 And I asked the angel who went with me and showed me all the hidden things, concerning that 3 Son of Man, who he was, and whence he was, (and) why he went with the Head of Days? And he answered and said unto me:
This is the son of Man who hath righteousness,
With whom dwelleth righteousness,
And who revealeth all the treasures of that which is hidden,
Because the Lord of Spirits hath chosen him,
And whose lot hath the pre-eminence before the Lord of Spirits in uprightness for ever. -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:29 JST
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@Xenophon @Will2Power and 1 Enoch 48:1-3
1 And in that place I saw the fountain of righteousness
Which was inexhaustible:
And around it were many fountains of wisdom:
And all the thirsty drank of them,
And were filled with wisdom,
And their dwellings were with the righteous and holy and elect.
2 And at that hour that Son of Man was named In the presence of the Lord of Spirits,
And his name before the Head of Days.
3 Yea, before the sun and the signs were created,
Before the stars of the heaven were made,
His name was named before the Lord of Spirits. -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:30 JST
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@Xenophon @Will2Power mustve been someone else then...but who... -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:30 JST
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I dunno. NEET is a mormon, but i have no idea if he made that claim about michael. -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:30 JST
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also to clarify (and not for the last time) but among many reasons, including Jesus calling Himself Yahweh, He must be, because it is required in fulfillment of His own law. He views Himself as the husband and Israel as the wife. Paul elucidates in Romans that the only way to regather the "lost" sheep (pagan Israelites, of which most were) under the law is the husband were to die. If God "remarried" divorced Israelites, it was break the law. -
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Will2Power (will2power@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:31 JST 
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@Frondeur @Xenophon Isn't Jesus being conflated with Michael a Mormon thing? -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:31 JST
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@Will2Power @Xenophon bunch of that era of american churches do it I think...jehovas witnesses...7th day adventists... -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:31 JST
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I don't believe I have ever said anything other than Jesus is God, full stop. Not "part" of God, but literally just God. There is only one God, Yahweh, and Jesus is the form He chose to take on this earth (final form?) -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:32 JST
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@Xenophon That one potentially legitimate one book within Enoch I recently learned is the book of watchers... I ran into some internet guy use it and Jude's apparent reference to it to argue against Jesus being Michael. The latter being a position I think I have seen some people on here (on here) make...maybe you??? -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:32 JST
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@Xenophon I guess that's kind of two hellthreads in one...is Jesus Michael and how should apocrypha be used to support arguments in general... -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:33 JST
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so my understanding of Enoch is that it there was definitely a legitimate version, my opinion based off the fact a fully intact copy was found in the DSS scrolls but was sold to a private buyer and never copied or revealed to the world.
But the version we have, is actually like 4-5 different books written at different times. Of them the first 1 seems to be the most/only possibly real? But that's also tough because it could just be theyve been corrupted over time and we can't really know. -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:33 JST
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But if you'd like to discuss some of it, I'm up for it. -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:34 JST
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Enoch? Not particularly, but I have talked about parts of it. -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:09:34 JST
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@Xenophon Which parts? -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:10:10 JST 
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@Frondeur @Xenophon @blankdeblank @Will2Power >is the arian heresy the reason so many Christian kingdoms and cities fell to the Muslims
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Aspartame (aspergtame@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:50:30 JST 
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@BowsacNoodle @Xenophon @blankdeblank @Frondeur @Will2Power Robert Bellarmine, Saint and Doctor of the Catholic Church, explicitly made the argument that the Eastern Christians suffered at the hands of Islam primarily due to their departure from the Faith, either in his work on General Councils or his defense of the Roman Pontiff, I can't remember which. BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:50:51 JST
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@Aspergtame @BowsacNoodle @Xenophon @blankdeblank @Will2Power interesting...I will have to look into that...the parallel then is why did the western Roman empire fall to the goths and vandals...and whatever other germanic arian tribes... BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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blankdeblank (blankdeblank@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:50:56 JST
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Decay and sloth BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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blankdeblank (blankdeblank@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:53:26 JST
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:53:26 JST
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@blankdeblank @Aspergtame @Xenophon @Frondeur @Will2Power orthodoxroad.com/acedia-the-two-faced-demon/ -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:53:27 JST
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@blankdeblank @Aspergtame @Xenophon @BowsacNoodle @Will2Power Sloth at least is a spiritual disease??? -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:56:45 JST
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@blankdeblank @Aspergtame @Xenophon @Frondeur @Will2Power -
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Gundog (gundog@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 11:57:02 JST 
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@BowsacNoodle @Frondeur @Xenophon @blankdeblank @Will2Power If memory serves me (mostly Unbiased Byzantium), the Arians aided the Sassanids since they were opposed to the Church in Constantinople, and on your mention of geography, were principally in Syria, Egypt, and surrounding territories.
You'd need a text on the Muslim conquests through Syria and North Africa to be sure, but it wouldn't surprise me since the Islamic conquests came quickly after the Sassanids fell, and Byzantium was still rebuilding and probably had little opportunity for reprisal against the treasonous Arians.BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 12:04:18 JST
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@blankdeblank @Aspergtame @Xenophon @Frondeur @Will2Power The Christians of old were aware of "the noon day devil" and it's probably the reason why Jesuits and others have the mantra Age Quod Agis, literally Do what you're doing. We sort of forget about sloth and its two manifestations because we equate busy with good.
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 12:07:43 JST
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@Xenophon @Aspergtame @blankdeblank @Frondeur @Gundog @Will2Power >Assyria was destroyed by Babylon, Babylon by Makedon, Makedon by Rome, and Rome by the Germanic hordes.
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 12:07:44 JST
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Because it's in Daniel.
The Roman empire was the Iron mixed with clay, and the stone that broke it was Jesus who set up is final kingdom, that was left to the Germanic tribes who make up all of Europe at present day. (tldr)
Daniel 2
>34 As you were watching, a stone broke off without a hand touching it,[h] struck the statue on its feet of iron and fired clay, and crushed them. 35 Then the iron, the fired clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold were shattered and became like chaff from the summer threshing floors. The wind carried them away, and not a trace of them could be found. But the stone that struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.
>43 You saw the iron mixed with clay—the peoples will mix with one another[j] but will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with fired clay.
>44 “In the days of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, and this kingdom will not be left to another people. It will crush all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, but will itself endure forever. 45 You saw a stone break off from the mountain without a hand touching it,[k] and it crushed the iron, bronze, fired clay, silver, and gold. The great God has told the king what will happen in the future.[l] The dream is true, and its interpretation certain.” -
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Gundog (gundog@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 12:07:44 JST
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@Xenophon @Frondeur @Aspergtame @blankdeblank @BowsacNoodle @Will2Power I've heard an interpretation that the iron mixed with clay is the various nations after Rome's break-up, and the stone striking will be the Second Coming. The Romans were somewhat mixed, but were still one empire, often affiliated with iron, while the nations today are as the iron and clay, mixed together but separate. -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 12:07:44 JST
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The breaking imo is the destruction of Rome, but all of the kingdoms were followed by what destroyed them. Assyria was destroyed by Babylon, Babylon by Makedon, Makedon by Rome, and Rome by the Germanic hordes. The Germanic hordes were also give and spread Christianity and have stood to this day. BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:30:44 JST
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@Frondeur @Omega_Variant @Aspergtame @Ash_Kvetchum @Xenophon @blankdeblank @Gundog @Will2Power -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:30:45 JST
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@Omega_Variant @Aspergtame @Ash_Kvetchum @Xenophon @blankdeblank @BowsacNoodle @Gundog @Will2Power i saw someone discussing it one hellthread...im trying to track them down and inquisite them on the book of enoch...for fun... -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:30:46 JST
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@Omega_Variant @Ash_Kvetchum @Aspergtame @Xenophon @blankdeblank @BowsacNoodle @Gundog @Will2Power wait...are you a Jesus=michael believer... -
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Omega Variant (omega_variant@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:30:46 JST 
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What, no that's the most retarded shit I've ever heard. Jesus is God. -
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Omega Variant (omega_variant@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:30:47 JST
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I wish more people would understand these things. What the church at large believes now is a relatively new thing. It's sad that we toss everything into the future and shrug out shoulders when asked when these things will be. Then speculate on this person is the antichrist or that person is. I dare say it has ship wrecked many people's faith.
Just look through history, most of revelation at this point is over. We are at the end. Idk how people think it's all future when it literally says "these things must SHORTLY come to pass" -
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Ash Kvetchum (ash_kvetchum@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:30:48 JST 
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First, I agree with what Xeno has said. I just want to add more because I love this stuff. It brings me real comfort.
Jacob gave this prophecy of the tribe of Dan:
>Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel. Dan shall be a serpent in the way, An [l]adder in the path, that biteth the horse’s heels, so that his rider falleth backward. I have waited for thy salvation, O Jehovah.
The tribe of Dan had trouble establishing a place, in the conquest of Canaan. Today, you can see a serpent trail of 'dan' named places, from the Danube River to the land of the Danish above.
But that's a weak argument. A little loose. So here's this:
Revelation 6 is of the four horsemen (the rise and fall of the Roman Empire).
The next chapter, Revelation 7, lists 12 tribes of Israel, naming them as "those that came out of the great tribulation" (the four horsemen just listed)--but Dan is not listed among the 12 tribes (instead the tribe of Joseph is listed in full by its two parts, making 12). Why isn't Dan listed?
Because Dan has not gone through the tribulation (the rise and fall of the Roman Empire). Dan was the Germanic tribes above. Dan was the stone that judged their fellow Israelites. He biteth the horse's heel. He had been a serpent along the way. -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:43:59 JST
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>Determine if someone is a follower of Jesus Christ with this one simple trick! -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:43:59 JST
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@Xenophon @Aspergtame @Ash_Kvetchum @Omega_Variant @blankdeblank @Frondeur @Gundog @Will2Power >Demons HATE Him! -
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CrustyB (crustyb@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:44:19 JST 
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It wasn't all that. The death toll for the Inquisition was under 4,000 people in about 400 years - about 10 a year. Talk about a boring job. BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:44:20 JST
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@Xenophon @Aspergtame @Ash_Kvetchum @Omega_Variant @blankdeblank @BowsacNoodle @Gundog @Will2Power my ideal job would be spanish inquisitor circa 1492...now where's d0c... -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:49:42 JST
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@Frondeur @Xenophon @Aspergtame @Ash_Kvetchum @Jonaschuzzlewit @Omega_Variant @blankdeblank @Gundog @Will2Power Talmud is dialectic and Bollywood tier stories. It's less than Enoch or any apocrypha. -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:49:43 JST
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@Xenophon @Aspergtame @Ash_Kvetchum @Jonaschuzzlewit @Omega_Variant @blankdeblank @BowsacNoodle @Gundog @Will2Power I'm not sure which parts contradict and which don't...if you read the Talmud you will double your income...guaranteed... -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:49:44 JST
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@Jonaschuzzlewit @Aspergtame @Ash_Kvetchum @Omega_Variant @Xenophon @blankdeblank @BowsacNoodle @Gundog @Will2Power somewhere in this heaven thread...I was describing the potentiality of it being easier to keep on the straight path of we (as a whole society) have more of the right books of scripture...I don't think it's a coincidence that we found the dead sea scrolls...and that their existence refutes a lot of nonsense that has attacked what is accepted as scripture...I'm wondering how far I should follow this reasoning... -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:49:44 JST
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if it contradicts known scripture, then i would be cautious about believing it. but also you have to ask what the harm is. is there harm in reading it? Is there harm in reading the talmud? -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:49:45 JST
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@Jonaschuzzlewit @Aspergtame @Ash_Kvetchum @Omega_Variant @Xenophon @blankdeblank @BowsacNoodle @Gundog @Will2Power admittedly enoch was not in it... -
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Jonaschuzzlewit (jonaschuzzlewit@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:49:45 JST 
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I think Enoch is fascinating but I can't quite go for it. I think if God is a mighty God he will be capable of passing on his Word to us and so I think what is in the current accepted version is enough and more than I need to be saved and instruct and guide me.
I can barely keep on the straight and narrow. I really don't need more. I need to read what I have if that makes sense. -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:49:46 JST
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@Jonaschuzzlewit @Aspergtame @Ash_Kvetchum @Omega_Variant @Xenophon @blankdeblank @BowsacNoodle @Gundog @Will2Power ...huh... -
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Jonaschuzzlewit (jonaschuzzlewit@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:49:46 JST
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I am no expert but I am kind of like if it didn't make KJV I will pass -
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Jonaschuzzlewit (jonaschuzzlewit@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:49:47 JST
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Enoch is fake news -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:49:47 JST
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@Jonaschuzzlewit @Aspergtame @Ash_Kvetchum @Omega_Variant @Xenophon @blankdeblank @BowsacNoodle @Gundog @Will2Power all of it??? -
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Jonaschuzzlewit (jonaschuzzlewit@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:49:47 JST
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Just 54 of them -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:51:27 JST
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I'm extremely anti KJV but mostly because I'm a contrarian and I'm sick of people acting like there is something magical or inspired about a single translation that was done with jewish texts and made 1600 years after Jesus died. -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:51:27 JST
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@Xenophon @Aspergtame @Omega_Variant @blankdeblank @Frondeur @Will2Power I don't have a problem with KJV. I mostly read BSB these days, but i enjoy having several translation when I'm stuck on a verse. -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:51:28 JST
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He's a catholic KJV only. laughable. Don't waste your time. -
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Omega Variant (omega_variant@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:51:28 JST
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I mean I'm vehemently pro KJV but , like it's stupid easy to find this stuff.
"Drunk on her wine" is very accurate. -
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Omega Variant (omega_variant@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:51:29 JST
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No, I didn't. It's easily searched history. -
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Aspartame (aspergtame@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:51:30 JST
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@Omega_Variant @Xenophon @blankdeblank @BowsacNoodle @Frondeur @Will2Power That's a rather broad, inaccurate brush to paint the history of interpreting Revelation with.
Generally speaking, it's Premill in the earliest Fathers, then Amill post-Nicaea.
Bellarmine's interpretation is probably wrong, but it's not out of line with history. -
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Omega Variant (omega_variant@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:51:30 JST
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It's not broad, it's just historical fact 🤷 -
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Aspartame (aspergtame@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:51:30 JST
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@Omega_Variant @Xenophon @blankdeblank @BowsacNoodle @Frondeur @Will2Power It's not though, you just made it up. -
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Omega Variant (omega_variant@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:51:31 JST
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That's because Muslims were only given 1/3 of the ghay (gee) or region of the Roman earth to conquer, which was the western half. They are the locusts of revelation. The other 2/3rds were given to others.
Bellarmine also collided with Ribera to create the futurist approach to the books of Daniel and revelation which were against how the church understood revelation up to that point. They made it up to deflect from the Protestants pointing the finger (correctly) to the Pope as being the man of perdition. Unfortunately Protestants finally succumbed to this teaching when Scofield came onto the scene along with Darby and popularized it in our circles. -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:52:55 JST
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@Aspergtame @Ash_Kvetchum @Jonaschuzzlewit @Omega_Variant @Xenophon @blankdeblank @Frondeur @Gundog @Will2Power I've read more of the Talmud than the Quran, but what I've read has been completely insane. -
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Aspartame (aspergtame@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:52:56 JST
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@BowsacNoodle @Ash_Kvetchum @Jonaschuzzlewit @Omega_Variant @Xenophon @blankdeblank @Frondeur @Gundog @Will2Power The Talmud is so retarded it sometimes make the Quran look sane. -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:53:23 JST
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If you don't believe the Romans burned 64 million jewish children to death in Jerusalem, you're an antisemite. -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:53:23 JST
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@Xenophon @Aspergtame @Ash_Kvetchum @Jonaschuzzlewit @Omega_Variant @blankdeblank @Frondeur @Gundog @Will2Power >you're an antisemite.
so true king! -
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Aspartame (aspergtame@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:59:05 JST
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@BowsacNoodle @Omega_Variant @Xenophon @blankdeblank @Frondeur @Will2Power What's the BSB all about? I've never heard of it. -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 13:59:05 JST
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@Aspergtame @Omega_Variant @Xenophon @blankdeblank @Frondeur @Will2Power I like the phrasing they use. Reminds me of NKJV or Catholic Study Bible. I think it's the same type of Septuagint Greek base as NKJV/ESV, but it's phrased better. -
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Omega Variant (omega_variant@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:03:58 JST
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It's 💯 unhinged BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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Ash Kvetchum (ash_kvetchum@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:04:20 JST
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What are talking about i love that book everyone does fan favorite among my temple i mean choych
I love all of'em
Esther Awakens
The Last Judean
Judea Rises -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:04:20 JST
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@Ash_Kvetchum @Aspergtame @Jonaschuzzlewit @Omega_Variant @Xenophon @blankdeblank @Frondeur @Gundog @Will2Power How are you doing Ash? Hope all is well! -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:04:21 JST
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Again. Just like Esther. -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:09:11 JST
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@Ash_Kvetchum @Aspergtame @Omega_Variant @Xenophon @blankdeblank @Gundog @Will2Power Oh from @Frondeur saying how he saw something about people believing Jesus is Michael and trying to look it up. I was probably in that thread... I think it's Coptics or Melkites who think that. "The Angel of The Lord" potentially means Jesus Christ, and there's the tie in there. -
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Ash Kvetchum (ash_kvetchum@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:09:12 JST
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lol What is this nervous boar's head memeing from, guys? I missed that -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:14:36 JST
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@Xenophon @Aspergtame @Ash_Kvetchum @Omega_Variant @blankdeblank @Frondeur @Gundog @Will2Power You know who else multiplied matter? Jesus. -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:14:37 JST
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So my take on it is your soul is your "angel". When people see the "angel of the Lord" they are seeing Yahweh.
>9 Then the Angel of the Lord said to her, “You must go back to your mistress and submit to her mistreatment.”[e] 10 The Angel of the Lord also said to her, “I will greatly multiply your offspring, and they will be too many to count.”
How can anyone but Yahweh greatly multiply Hagars children? -
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Ash Kvetchum (ash_kvetchum@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:16:11 JST
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Doing well =) Working on a personal project I'm excited about (but won't write about here because it would hopefully be in the public sphere, and I don't need "He says nigger!" getting in the way of what I hope nudges some of our people toward certain /thoughts/.) Been thinking about how our people need more art in any form it comes. We have some solid comic artists. That's good! We have memes, videos. These are good, too. There are more ways to the heart, though. Trying to do what I can in one of those ways.
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:16:46 JST
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@Ash_Kvetchum @Aspergtame @Jonaschuzzlewit @Omega_Variant @Xenophon @blankdeblank @Frondeur @Gundog @Will2Power Doing well here, thanks for asking. Just a day at a time ya know? -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:21:45 JST
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@Xenophon @Aspergtame @Ash_Kvetchum @Omega_Variant @blankdeblank @Frondeur @Gundog @Will2Power The icon of the Lord visiting Abraham has one of the angels in the same attire that Christ is normally depicted in. -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:21:46 JST
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Jesus is Yahweh, so yeah. -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:22:19 JST
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@BowsacNoodle @Ash_Kvetchum @Aspergtame @Omega_Variant @Xenophon @blankdeblank @Gundog @Will2Power I ran into some youtube minister using Enoch to refute that particular heresy which I found a strange way to argue from a Christian perspective...so today I've been pushing Enoch down everyone's throat... BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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Aspartame (aspergtame@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:25:45 JST
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@Frondeur @Ash_Kvetchum @Omega_Variant @Xenophon @blankdeblank @BowsacNoodle @Gundog @Will2Power Enoch is useful in sort of the way Heiser (RIP) used it, which was putting certain ancient pre-Christian metaphysics in context. It is a useful book for that type of analysis. BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:29:39 JST
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@Xenophon @BowsacNoodle @Aspergtame @Ash_Kvetchum @Jonaschuzzlewit @Omega_Variant @blankdeblank @Gundog @Will2Power not gonna lie esther gets to me...like the whole plot twist where everyone just becomes a jew... BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:29:40 JST
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But similar to Esther :demon_wojak: -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:30:37 JST
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it's jewish fan fiction. -
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Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:30:37 JST
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@Xenophon @Aspergtame @Ash_Kvetchum @Jonaschuzzlewit @Omega_Variant @blankdeblank @BowsacNoodle @Gundog @Will2Power I thought that too...but then I thought...what if it's there as a warning... BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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Ash Kvetchum (ash_kvetchum@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:33:13 JST
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(This is not a take on what you wrote, Bowsac. This is a tangent that leaves that lol.)
One day I am going to make a second account and sperg. I want to use iconography to show that the Annunaki visited in the year 0 AD and you can tell because of the space helmets recorded -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 14:33:13 JST
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@Ash_Kvetchum @Aspergtame @Omega_Variant @Xenophon @blankdeblank @Frondeur @Gundog @Will2Power poa.st/objects/706dfb85-71d1-41c9-934e-dd824c012fd7 -
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Deplorable Degenerate (deplorable_degenerate@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 21:54:38 JST 
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Yes, it reads like a legal code. Which is more or less what it actually is. Pharisees telling you how you can find loopholes to circumvent God's law. BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 21:54:39 JST
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It's just sooooo long and jewish 😩 -
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Deplorable Degenerate (deplorable_degenerate@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 21:54:40 JST
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The Talmud should be required reading.
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