@Xenophon @blankdeblank @Will2Power longer answer is...I wonder if there are some important lessons we (in a general sense) are ignoring that although maybe not strictly necessary for our salvation might promote salvation in general...protestants disregarding Tobit for instance...is that part of an explanation for the degeneracy and abortion rates of today...or historically is the arian heresy the reason so many Christian kingdoms and cities fell to the Muslims...