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   BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 02:22:52 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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   >should probably start a new thread though if you want a good faith discussion.
   Here we go.
   
   >Other way around, retard latches onto his own "gotcha" that LaVey was born a jew. Same retard also happens to worship a jew as a divine entity. Pointing that out amuses me, whilst making him have to attack his own argument if he wants to appear to be anything more than just a butthurt tard.
   
   Jewish identity proper died with the resurrection of Christ and destruction of The Second Temple along with the earth swallowing the attempted third temple. A sizeable portion of them converted earnestly of their own free will; these were the people waiting for the Messiah. "Judaism" as it is known today is a younger religion than Christianity formed by reactionaries angry at their loss of prestige. The jews are an ethnoreligious group who've built their culture around manipulation and an attempt to rules-lawyer God (sin chickens, eruv, sabbath lights etc.) and are naturally disordered because of this, leading to many atheists in their ranks. There has always been mysticism and occultic practices since old testament times; the people who walked near a pillar of God-fire and ate heavenly bread couldn't last 6 weeks before they started making an idol to worship while. Then there's the countless instances of idol worship and abandonment of faith in the OT. Point is, the rebellious streak of do as thou wilt and believing they knew better than God was ingrained in them and didn't stop for those who rejected Christ. This matters because "LeVay" and his "satanism" is an understandable byproduct of this. Christ as Logos incarnate is not a "Jew" in the modern semblance of the word and it is disingenuous to claim as much and is either from ignorance or malice.
   
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     @nugger @BowsacNoodle @Sui Big Jew, 15 foot tall boyfriend and pimp of the Whore of Babylon.
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     @BowsacNoodle @Sui ONLY THING I HAVE TO ADD IS THAT THE FUNDAMENTAL AND DEFINITIVE POINT OF JEWISH IDENTITY IS THAT THE COLLECTIVE JEWISH IDENTITY TAKES THE PLACE OF THE SON OF GOD IN CHRISTIAN UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORLD
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     @Sui I was writing an effortpost reply and my browser froze. I am deeply saddened...
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     Sorry, finished up the shitposting then tech issues got brought up. Ok, good faith religion thread go. Only an hour late to the party.
     
     > Jewish identity proper died with the resurrection of Christ and destruction of The Second Temple along with the earth swallowing the attempted third temple.
     
     Cultures change yeah, but if being born a jew is all it takes for an instant dismissal of everything then it still applies. Those bloodlines were, and still are, jewish. He followed judaism at the time, including the stuff later omitted from the OT to manipulate the message's development. For all intents and purposes he was born a jew and died one.
     
     > "Judaism" as it is known today is a younger religion than Christianity
     
     Christianity as it's known today is the same way, it's been significantly altered at multiple points and has branched out into 100s of much younger sects. But judaism is a more direct adaptation of jewish mythology, and christianity is closer to a more convenient fanfiction. Like islam.
     
     > The jews are an ethnoreligious group
     
     That's the main problem imo, it's like the muslims who hide behind "Attacking islam is racism!". It just muddies the waters to use the same term for two very distinct things. The ethno side I don't give a fuck about, the cultural/religious side affects their actions more imo. Fuck zionism.
     
     > There has always been mysticism and occultic practices since old testament times
     
     Way way before that tbh.
     
     > Do as thou wilt
     
     That's just human nature, it's inherent in all of us. We're all selfish skin monkeys, even when we do things for others it's because we want to. Or we feel resentment in some form when we are forced into doing things for others against our will. It's certainly not limited to jews and/or occultists like Crowley.
     
     > This matters because "LeVay" and his "satanism" is an understandable byproduct of this.
     
     LaVeyan philosophy blasphemes against the shared god of the kikes/xians and goatfuckers, not just jesus. Otherwise I'd say this point would be more solid, if they only went after the main difference between christianity and judaism. Blaspheming against the kike god is still a nono under judaism, the religion not the ethnicity.
     
     > Christ as Logos incarnate is not a "Jew" in the modern semblance of the word and it is disingenuous to claim as much and is either from ignorance or malice.
     
     As far as ethnic jew goes, it's irrelevant that the culture/religion has changed. Christians again, have also undergone similar changes/reformation etc. For jesus, he worshipped his era's version of judaism and was born of at least one jew (who his mum fucked is allegedly unknown, I suspect a roman soldier personally). He's a jew, there's no wriggle room there. He did deviate from the traditional judaism of the time, and rebelled against it enough to get himself killed as a cult leader, but he was still born and died a jew.
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 12:38:43 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @Sui >Cultures change yeah, but if being born a jew is all it takes for an instant dismissal of everything then it still applies.
     
     I think you're missing the magnitude of Christ's birth, death, and resurrection as it pertains to old testament religion beliefs. The decision to reject Him is such a big deal when they were waiting for the Messiah for centuries. To use a metaphor, if (actual, provable) Adolf Hitler suddenly appeared today, and some group of wignat podcasters called him cringe and murdered him, would you call them Nazis or would you think them something else? There comes a point where action defines who you are, regardless of what you LARP or the aesthetics you adopt. The "Jews" of today are not the same as the ones who faithfully practiced and awaites the coming Messiah when Jesus was born.
     
     >Christianity significantly altered at multiple points...100s of sects.
     There are specific significant points in Christian history where things were decided at councils. We have old writings and things like The Didache which line up pretty dang close to practices 1900+ years later. Heterodoxy doesn't matter to me; core tenants of the faith were hammered out in discussions at councils. The Christian whose church is in a run down stripmall is still a Christian, as is the one in a grand cathedral.
     
     >But judaism is a more direct adaptation of jewish mythology.
     These types of statements are illogical, and I've already pointed out that they cannot practice their religion as written. They have no temple to sacrifice, they have no class of priests to perform them, and they have invented rules turning their beliefs into a game. "Lol I'm not traveling or there's a big wire up there that I claim is part of my house". If that's always been a part of their religion, then it's no wonder Christ called them out.
     
     >General blasphemous statements
     Jesus Christ was born of a virgin. The people who try to make explicit claims otherwise tend to get their information from The Talmud. And to once again repeat my point: the "jews" as they exist today are a religion of larpers who rejected Christ and had to make up a new version of rules for their beliefs to try to jew God into accepting their legalism.
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     @Sui It'll be here tomorrow if you're up for it.
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     @Griffith @Sui Maybe so. The metaphor isn't perfect, but it's somewhat illustrative of the stark difference pre and post event in how you would view those who self identified with a group, especially if we imagine most of the originals changing beliefs and self identification post death.
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     Griffith (griffith@5dollah.click)'s status on Sunday, 24-Dec-2023 15:07:20 JST Griffith

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     @BowsacNoodle @Sui I would say they are Nazis. I would say they are the worst Nazis ever, but they’re Nazis. What else are they? Commies? They would simply say he wasn’t Hitler.
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     I might give some responses after Christmas, too busy lamenting the fact that it looks like it will be in the 60s and raining so throwing buckets of water on carolers out past dark will lose its punch.
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     @Dan_Hulson @Griffith @Sui Christmas miracle, innit?
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     @BowsacNoodle @Griffith @Sui A Christmas hellthread in the making
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     This really needs to be the plot of a black comedy horror movie. An eternal immortal Hitler keeps respawning all over the world and keeps getting murdered by various whitenationalist militia members and political party canvassers

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     Omega Variant (omega_variant@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 03:43:52 JST Omega Variant

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     The fact that "jews" practice a totally different religion than the one in the Bible while also appropriating stuff from it should tell one everything they need to know.
     
     It's gnostic malarky and is easily seen once you cut past their veneer of claiming to be "chosen".
     
     Then you have the entire Bible which calls out such malarky religions and condemns them.
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     God's chosen people were those who accepted the Lord, who today are in paradise
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     But hey (anyone), if you didn't know, you sinned against God, but he's willing to forgive that as long as you trust in the promise of eternal life by the sacrifice of his son Jesus Christ.
     
     The Bible says in Romans 10:9
     That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
     
     Saved from an eternity in hell.
     
     Anyways.
     Sui reminds me of how I used to be before I believed.
     Dead in my sins.
     A man destined for hell.
     
     Good thing going to heaven doesn't depend on our works.
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     @nugger @BowsacNoodle @Sui I have several reasons for sticking to Hitler's "no religion hell-threads," policy but Christian Identity is where I draw the line.
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     @Sui @gh0st1984 @MelGibsonafter4Beers >It'll gonna be a slow ass thread if it takes him 2 fucking weeks per reply.
     My dude, you still never replied to me. I'm waiting on you. Your last response was "I'm too high for this" on 12/23/23. I respect the pause, but not the shit talking after you didn't deliver.
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     It'll gonna be a slow ass thread if it takes him 2 fucking weeks per reply.
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     > Worship a kike
     > Call that kike your god
     > Accuse others of being jews
     
     10/10, great plan.
     
     Also, this thread died like a week or two ago, did it really take you this long to come up with "DA JOOZ!"?
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     Oh cool, just reserving my seat for the hell thread. 🍿
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     @BowsacNoodle @Sui Satanism is nothing more than reddit tier atheism / randian objectivism with pentagrams and goat skulls.
     
     Just call them Jews and argue about religion after you win, you meandering autists.
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 11:00:15 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @Sui >Or you're missing the lack of magnitude of a jewish cult leader's life and death to people who don't share your faith.
     I'm talking about historical context of late second temple Judaism. You don't have to agree with my faith to acknowledge the reality of the situation. Failure to do so is a massive L on your part.
     >Again, if being born jewish is an instant L then you've killed your own stance by worshipping one as a god.
     I've already addressed this. Post-christ, the people who call themselves "jews" are an ethnoreligious cult built around rejection of the Messiah, and it is fundamentally a younger religion than Christianity.
     >I don't call wignats nazis to begin with, because they aren't part of that group. They're fanboys at best.
     Much like the people who call themselves "Jews" today. Christ called them the synagogue of Satan.
     >Jesus still had jew blood. Which is all it takes to most wignats, identify degrees of separation from kikes and that's it dismissed, the cultural changes are irrelevant as it's not about culture or ideology it's about ethnicity.
     See prior posts where I talked about Christ as Logos incarnate and how they're a people who have built an ethnoreligious movement on rejection of that. The ethnicity today is tainted the way it is because of blood memory/inbreeding/satanic worship. They are not irredeemable by blood, for I do believe Christ died for all who will accept Him, but they have the blood memory / pick your Evola terminology here of a subversive snake. And if that gets me kicked out of internet racism, so be it.
     >Alright, what about the african christians who worship god and satan. Expecting god's eternal mercy to save them on their deathbed whatever the fucks, so they try to appease satan during their lives as a backup method.
     Appeal to extremes is jewish behavior. God knows people's hearts, but obviously worshipping death/satan is wrong. We're told to be hot or cold, not lukewarm, which your example sounds like. That said, Africans are not irredeemable, even the blackest darkest ones. What is impossible for man is possible for God. You don't have to want to live next to them to acknowledge they can be Christian, just as can White people, Chinese, and yes... even jews. I am a Christian first and an internet "racist" second.
     >I'm not going back to see what it actually said now, so I guess I'll just ignore your response like you ignored mine 🤷♂️
     Make me wait two weeks and then be too lazy to scroll up? 🆗 I'll take a other W for that one too.
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     > I think you're missing the magnitude of Christ's birth, death, and resurrection as it pertains to old testament religion beliefs.
     
     Or you're missing the lack of magnitude of a jewish cult leader's life and death to people who don't share your faith. Again, if being born jewish is an instant L then you've killed your own stance by worshipping one as a god.
     
     > To use a metaphor, if (actual, provable) Adolf Hitler suddenly appeared today, and some group of wignat podcasters called him cringe and murdered him, would you call them Nazis or would you think them something else?
     
     If Hitler revived, he'd probably be a left wing socialist (again). Wignats would hate him because of partisanism. I don't call wignats nazis to begin with, because they aren't part of that group. They're fanboys at best.
     
     > The "Jews" of today are not the same as the ones who faithfully practiced and awaited the coming Messiah when Jesus was born.
     
     Guess what, no demographic is lol. Thousands of years has quite a lot of impact on people. Jesus still had jew blood. Which is all it takes to most wignats, identify degrees of separation from kikes and that's it dismissed, the cultural changes are irrelevant as it's not about culture or ideology it's about ethnicity.
     
     > The Christian whose church is in a run down stripmall is still a Christian, as is the one in a grand cathedral.
     
     Alright, what about the african christians who worship god and satan. Expecting god's eternal mercy to save them on their deathbed whatever the fucks, so they try to appease satan during their lives as a backup method. They still believe the same dogma as you, give or take. Or what about the theological satanists, that believe in your god and devil and just choose the other side. Them too?
     
     > >General blasphemous statements
     
     I'm not going back to see what it actually said now, so I guess I'll just ignore your response like you ignored mine 🤷♂️
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     pharisees and godless heebs. always looking to skirt the Lord's laws.
     I believe that the Eruv in every city should be torn down asap.
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     @koropokkur @Omega_Variant @Sui @BowsacNoodle It's all on public land, so it's a violation of church and state. Same goes for the menorah at the White House. And no I don't care what the constitution says I care what the ACLjews say to remove decalogues from courthouses. Tit for tat, bitches.
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     @Sui @Jonaschuzzlewit @BowsacNoodle That's because jews themselves constantly change between religion, race, and ideology based on convenience. If they were a religion alone an atheist jew would be a complete contradiction, but it's a complete non-issue for their circles. Israel grants automatic citizenship if you can prove jewish genetics, not based on religion, while they sterilize Ethiopian jews. Otoh, they do recruit in some outsiders, especially if they're rich or connected like Trump's children. So it's clearly both, and by their choosing.
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     Jew basically just means whatever is convenient at the time around here lol. If we're talking about ethnicity, religious or ideology the entire fucking conversation would go in different directions. Whole thing's tedious as fuck to me, it's like when the goatfuckers pretend being critical of islam is racism in the UK.
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     Israelite and jew is different. Especially AD. The road forked after Israel made its fatal choice and became the Synagoge of Satan is my view.
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     > I'm talking about historical context of late second temple Judaism
     
     Literally couldn't matter less to bloodlines, which is all this about. You're seemingly just tangenting around. This is literally all just "HE'S A JOO!" as a OHKO, and then so fucking much mental gymnastics to be like "But jesus was one of the good ones!". If there are no good ones, then there are no good ones. It's gotta be consistent or at least stop pretending it's a principle. If you love jews you love jews 🤷♂️
     
     >fundamentally a younger religion than Christianity.
     .... Lol ok sure, you're like a young earther or some shit I guess? I've tried talking sense to that shit but it's all just denial and faith, I'll skip.
     
     You're confusing ethnicity and ideology. We're not talking about ideology here, we're talking about the ethnicity side. It's what you're born as and nobody is born religious (which is why it requires indoctrination). Jesus was both ethnically jewish and religiously, so it's still a OHKO to him but it'll just get confusing if you keep jumping around pretending it's the same thing.
     
     > Much like the people who call themselves "Jews" today
     
     Most people who call themselves "christian" today haven't even read the bible. People lie a lot.
     
     > They are not irredeemable by blood
     
     I think one of the recent popes said something similar about jews and heaven. But this entire topic started because (to them) everything with jew blood IS irredeemable. And then they just start REEing and sperging out when you mention the kike on a stick that they pretend to love and follow. He was a fucking hippy ffs, pretty much nobody here is following that crap. It's way more common to misquote the OT and pretend that it wasn't written by jews for jews.
     
     Anyway I guess the thread's done, as we don't actually disagree on the one thing this was meant to be about lol? You're less hypocritical than a lot of your peers 🍻
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     Yeah just like the paki cunts do. It's annoying as fuck when whoever does it, it all but annihilates the chance of any kind of good faith conversation because you'll end up not even talking about the same thing.
     
     It's like gender identity, I refuse to play by retarded and counterproductive rules.
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     @Sui >You're confusing ethnicity and ideology... we're talking about the ethnicity side. It's what you're born as and nobody is born religious
     I'm going to make this point a separate post because you seem to not be getting it, despite me expounding upon it for paragraphs now. Judaism is a religion, ethnicity, and ideology. A lot of jews converted to Christianity. The ones who didn't and their descendants, who have all the shitty traits that one can recognize and hate on today, are the ones who rejected Christ. The ones who became Christian stopped considering themselves jewish, and they married other Christians of whatever ethnicity and mixed. If you want to get into biological determinism with me as it relates to their situation, then LFG. Simple argument: Christianity and the rejection of Christ was a genetic filter that concentrated the worst aspects of their ethnic, cultural, and religious traditions into an amalgamation of garbage, which inbred and distilled in their ethnicity as a foulness which makes them hated today and different from those people who converted to Christianity.
     >Shitty traits (ethnic) and selfish learned behavior (culture) caused some of them to reject their prophesized Messiah (religion). Those without the highest concentration of shitty traits stopped being jewish. It was a genetic filter. Because of this, I consider the traits interconnected and somewhat indistinguishable.
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     @Sui dude really? pathetic.
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     Jew is a single term that is used for 3 distinct and seperate things; religion, ethnicity, and ideology. It's not even really an ethnicity tbh, that's just a defence tactic to hide behind racism more than anything else. You cannot just marry someone and become a new race, yet you can become a jew. There are also jews that are black, asian, hispanic, white etc.
     
     Yeah I get you're a tribalist, most people around here are. Personally, I think all organized religions are cancerous for humanity. And honestly there isn't much about humanity worth saving, let alone championing and pretending the tribalist shit matters. That angle's a dead end with me dude.
     
     You do know that jesus matched barely any of the messiah traits right? That's why kikes didn't believe in him, he was a hippy (possibly pretty gay too, given his habit of homewrecking and collecting a bunch of guys) and not the warmonger that jewish mythology expected (which was a lot more like a muhammed). That's the biggest reason people didn't believe the hippy reformist guy wandering around saying shit like “Blessed are the peace-makers; they will be called sons of God.”.
     
     > I consider the traits interconnected and somewhat indistinguishable.
     
     If you're unable to discriminate between the three categories, we cannot have a good faith discussion about any of them imo. Guess it still ends here, but on a sourer note. Let me know if you manage to work out how ethnicity =/= religion =/= ideology some day I guess.
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     Btw I don't understand how you can both think that someone can convert/repent and get into heaven if their religion is as deeply rooted as their ethnicity from birth. Those two things seem completely mutually exclusive to me. How do you rationalize having both positions? And if some could break the things that you consider "interconnected and somewhat indistinguishable.", why couldn't others that just don't convert to your specific location of birth's religion?
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     @Sui Do you believe in free will? I do, but I acknowledge predisposition towards behaviors as genetic and heritable. Christ can change people in ways that I can't explain. People are still human and will still make mistakes as Christians, but I personally know people who walked away from an absolute shit-tier life, at a point where many would assume they're irredeemable scum, and have totally transformed themselves after accepting Christ. I do believe that what is impossible for man is possible for God.
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     @Sui @BowsacNoodle Religion and ideology are part of culture, which comes down stream from characteristics largely predetermined in genetic makeup circularly reinforced by memetics of culture.
     The only thing you're attempting to divide are links of singular chain. None of them are worth discussing in isolation.
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     We're talking about totally different things, and you've just said that you're apparently unable/unwilling to even keep on one topic. So what the fuck do you expect me to say? Race/religion and ideology are not that difficult to separate, would definitions of the words help? How condescending do you want me to be?
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     None of them are worth discussing in isolation.

     Disagree, you can't discuss any of them in any significant detail if you just group all of it together. There are quite a lot of ethnic/religious/ideological divides already, trying to mash that altogether and still have a coherent discussion just isn't reasonable imo.

     The topic was based exclusively on ethnicity, if anybody that is born a kike is irredeemable and automatically dismissed. Both religion and ideology are non existent at birth, so they are completely irrelevant.

     The previous thread veered to yes, but then they all shat themselves coming up with excuses for some good jews like jewsus and his disciples. Which is just obviously hypocritical and self defeating imo. Bowsac I'm not sure on, he seems to want a good faith effort post thread which I can respect. But he seems to think jews can be redeemed, but also that they're irredeemable from birth.. I dunno, waiting on a reply if he'll give one 🤷♂️

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     @Sui @BowsacNoodle Can't be bothered to read all that. So you're going to evaluate everybody on their own merit? That's bullshit even in personal life, we have shortcuts for that, stereotypes. We judge books by it's covers.
     
     What comes down stream from overriding source, which i will claim is genetic is far from homogeneous, it's all natural distribution after all. We do have ways of establishing patterns and belonging to a group widely defines you.
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     jews are redeemed when they accept Christ same as the rest of us . After Jesus that was the only way for both jew and gentile.
     
     The arrival of Christ was the end of judaism and the beginning of Christianity VS the synagogue of Satan.
     
     I get you don't believe that. I pray you do one day. I get that means nothing to you. If I didn't believe it I would not say it though. Hope we can continue to get along on here despite this difference and I only pray for you to see because I truly believe it is the only way. I don't mean to sound like a broken record or be disrespectful to you Sui.
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     @Sui I don't consider it a gear shift to talk about this, because if you're asking how I can choose to group some overlapping venn diagram balls as one thing, it fits within my biological and spiritual views of the world and why I can look at the people who call themselves "Jews" today and say the heuristics that define them do not track backwards with perfect accuracy to the entirety of their existence.
     
     >If the jewish god exists, then definitely no. The plan of a being with the attributes of that god would simply be unbreakable.
     What if His plan was to allow free will and the good, bad, and ugly that came with it, and He determined that the best way to allow for that is what we have?
     >By christ do you mean jesus
     Jesus Christ, the son of the living God, who died for the sins of man and who was raised from the dead after conquering death and hell, and who ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of The Father. That one.
     >Ok, so you think they're irredeemable but if one claims to convert you'd still believe them because it could be a miracle of some kind? Is that a fair assessment?
     All men have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. I am telling you the culture and religion spawned from the people who rejected Christ is especially toxic because they rejected Logos incarnate and have built an ethnoreligious cult around why rejection of Good is ackshually the real good.
     >the bible quote
     What is impossible for man is possible for God— a broken person with predisposition for the worst behaviors and traits can be freed from much of their influence through faith in God through Christ. Even the jews.
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     Ok that's a hell of a gear shift. I'm not sure tbh, I guess if the laws of physics are accurate then every action is just a reaction to previous reactions right? So that'd be no, but the chain of events is so fucking chaotic that even basic predictions are often retardedly far from reality. If the jewish god exists, then definitely no. The plan of a being with the attributes of that god would simply be unbreakable.

     But I believe in neither, and prefer the simplicity of assuming we are responsible for our own actions rather than a skydaddy or near infinite seemingly random reactions causing it. If I believed in predeterminism I'd have to show more empathy because choice has an impact, and empathy's pretty gay.

     By christ do you mean jesus, the dead cultleader, and/or yahweh? Do you believe in the trinity or what we talking here?

     but I personally know people who walked away from an absolute shit-tier life, at a point where many would assume they're irredeemable scum, and have totally transformed themselves after accepting Christ

     Oddly I know plenty of the same thing happening in the exact opposite direction lol

     Ok, so you think they're irredeemable but if one claims to convert you'd still believe them because it could be a miracle of some kind? Is that a fair assessment?

     Skimmed the bible quote but it has no weight as a source for basically anything to me, so uhh..

     When Mr. Bilbo Baggins of Bag End announced that he would shortly be celebrating his eleventy-first birthday with a party of special magnificence, there was much talk and excitement in Hobbiton. Bilbo was very rich and very peculiar, and had been the wonder of the Shire for sixty years, ever since his remarkable disappearance and unexpected return. The riches he had brought back from his travels had now become a local legend, and it was popularly believed, whatever the old folk might say, that the Hill at Bag End was full of tunnels stuffed with treasure. And if that was not enough for fame, there was also his prolonged vigour to marvel at. Time wore on, but it seemed to have little effect on Mr. Baggins. At ninety he was much the same as at fifty. At ninety-nine they began to call him well-preserved; but unchanged would have been nearer the mark. There were some that shook their heads and thought this was too much of a good thing; it seemed unfair that anyone should possess (apparently) perpetual youth as well as (reputedly) inexhaustible wealth. "It will have to be paid for," they said. "It isn"t natural, and trouble will come of it!"

     to you too 👍

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     @Sui @burner @white_male I actually have no idea how it started. I see religious hellthread and I am but a moth to a flame.
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     Remember the rabbit vtuber hellthread? This is still from that.
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     - Some vtuber simp's poll about bunny.
     - Charlie drunken shitposts.
     - Simp on Poast REE's, reports him.
     - I turn up, laugh at simp.
     - Simp necro's it the next day.
     - Simp's gay lover tangents into muh satanism as a distraction for his friend being a gay little simp.
     - Religion hellthread ~xmas.
     - Necro'd 2 weeks later by some sperg.
     - YOU ARE HERE.
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     @burner @Sui @BowsacNoodle I guess i touched a nerve discounting the revelations up to this point.
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     I didn't read the thread :chad0:
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     tldr he admitted to gargling his dog's balls when nobody was looking
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     @Sui @BowsacNoodle It's a topic discussed since forever, i'm picking up where i found it.
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     > Can't be bothered to read all that.
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     > Can't be bothered to read all that
     
     Likewise, GL with that or I'm sorry for you loss.
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     rip
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     Sucks, I didn't really go on most of the memey groups tbh. I just trolled faggots when I was bored lol. Did end up in political compass memes eventually, which is what got me banned for woodchipper go brrt memes. Did me a favour, fuck that "pedophiles are a protected demographic" shit.
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     I did actually farm that shit once, some of the faggiest subreddits set it pretty high to keep out trolls. So I'd just copypaste whatever's previous top rated post. But I'd have to do it again each time I wanted to do a gore spamming spree or whatever.
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     is r/eyeblech still up, that was one of the few rekt subs past like 2018
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     I want to give this comment so much reddit gold
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     Ok so they can be redeemed, and being born as one isn't an instant and permanent L?
     
     Judaism didn't end, or we wouldn't have half the fucking problems. It's the oldest of the 3 main jewish mythology religions, the other two are kinda just fanfictions of it tbh.
     
     I will likely never believe in it, excluding incurring very specific brain damage. I've made my mind up on the abrahamic religions, they're all fake and gay imo. I don't see why we can't continue to get along tbh, I value differences in opinions that's why I jump into hellthreads so much lol. The way I see it is the brain's a muscle, and muscles atrophy if you don't use them. Living in an echo chamber stops you using it, so I seek out conflicts. The lefty corpofags just keep banning me, and I cba talking to them until they're losing again (and pretending to care about free speech again).
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     @BowsacNoodle @Sui @burner Would his opinions be any differently wrong on jews depending on how this discussion started?
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     @white_male @Sui @burner IDK, but it seems he doesn't see the evil coming from the people as a concern if he's fine accepting "satanism".
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     @Sui @PodunkPotato @burner @white_male why would you do this.
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     What were the poll results?
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     @BowsacNoodle @white_male @Sui @burner >accepting satanism
     Oh man, got to break out the big guns for this one
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     @Sui >Which is considered blasphemy under christianity, not my rules lol.
     :Ackshually: That's not how free will works. this has been discussed to death by people with more time, autism, and brains than either of us.
     >So no holy ghost, and you think he was at least partially mortal?
     I almost copypasta'd the whole nicean creed for you, but I thought I'd get the point across with a bit less bashing over the head. Jesus Christ is fully God and fully man. The Holy Spirit proceeds from The Father and is distinct from Jesus Christ.
     >yeah you think miracles are required for kike redemptions.
     Heaven rejoices when one person repents and accepts Christ. My salvation is a miracle. Jews have a tougher situation than some from their own level, because they have a cultural rejection of Christ amplified by their religion and tied to their ethnic identity as I mentioned earlier. Proclivities not predestination. I pray for the jews and muslims every single day; that they will repent and come to know God's love through Christ Jesus.
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     > What if His plan was to allow free will
     
     Then he would have to be either not omnipotent/omniscient and/or beyond time. Which is considered blasphemy under christianity, not my rules lol.
     
     > That one.
     So no holy ghost, and you think he was at least partially mortal?
     
     > All men have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
     Sounds more like a reason for misanthropy than (sometimes) disregarding people for being born in the wrong place imo.
     
     > What is impossible for man is possible for God
     
     Interesting.. Could god fist fuck himself with his foot? It's impossible for us mere mortals right? Less tangentially, so yeah you think miracles are required for kike redemptions.
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     @Sui @BowsacNoodle That hinges on how someone might define that. You can know all possible outcomes someone might take, and how likely each outcomes is. Is it omniscient if you know that, but don't interfere and allow the system to play out in accordance to those chances outside of your control?
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     @Sui @BowsacNoodle >Then he would have to be either not omnipotent/omniscient and/or beyond time.
     
     I don't think that's necessarily true. Using quantum mechanics as a basis, but really any statistical system will do (thermodynamics, multi-body systems, bacteria populations, etc)... everything is random. It's impossible to build an absolute deterministic system for a single particle (whatever that is). Yet we can also reasonably determine all possible behaviors a particle might take, as well as isolate it under certain conditions to increase chances to induce specific desired behaviors. On a macro scale, we can reliably predict how systems of particles will behave 100% of the time.
     
     So, we may have free will to do whatever we want as individuals, and it not impact and "great plan" in the same way that we don't worry about all the water in a cup suddenly evaporating in an instant.
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     > everything is random. It's impossible to build an absolute deterministic system for a single particle
     
     So, god's not omniscient then?
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     @Sui I think you're contorting what I'm saying on purpose here at this point. I've been very honest and open with you about this, and I have a hard time honestly believing you don't follow what I'm saying.
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     > That's not how free will works.
     
     It's how denying attributes of god works.
     
     > Jesus is 200%
     
     That hippy bitch nigger was obese too? Fucking strong crucifix, fair play Romans.
     
     > My salvation is a miracle.
     
     Were you born in some 3rd world country that missionaries haven't been able to infect yet? Or one of those "OH LORD IT'S A MIRACLE, I STILL HAD A DONUT!" type things?
     
     And you trust irredeemable liars who are otherwise to never be trusted, in telling you that they've magically changed their very genetics enough to embrace jesus? Ok lol, GL with that one..
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     @Sui To be honest, you're grossly mischaracterizing what I've said in ways that are too deliberate to come from ignorance or plain disagreement. I've been reasonable, but you're not returning the favor. I like shitposting with you, but I don't care for your literal talmudic lies about Christianity. I've politely asked you to stop using them several times and you refuse. If this is good faith to you, then you're in a sad state. The good news is it's the Internet and I don't get mad about it, and I hope you feel the same.
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     Nope, definitely no more so than your recharacterizations of what I've said for sure. As have I, and I've answered you point for point. Everything you believe regarding this, relies solely on your faith in yahweh. I do not have that faith, I dislike jewish mythology for the most part and don't follow it. Isn't it pretty obvious why your arguments aren't exactly convincing enough for me to follow them without faith in your religion lol? I think this is a bad faith attack on the person because you lack a single counter argument tbh.
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     @Sui >implying I've ever been anything but reasonable and civil
     🆗
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     Once again, no more so than you have done in this thread to me. I've simplified to the point of light ridicule, as have you, but I have not mischaracterized anything.
     
     > I've been reasonable
     
     Civil sure, reasonable not so much. You're expecting some work of jewish fiction to be a reliable source for people who don't share your faith in them being a reliable source. That's far from reasonable.
     
     Oh dear, you've gotten butthurt enough to bring out the "U R JOO" card. Let's just drop it, I've already tried to give you an out twice when you were flapping around earlier. Remember when I said we are not talking about the same topic? Shit man, you can't even keep on a topic. No amount of effort for a good faith discussion is going to fix that, but nice effort. Nah, no hard feelings this end.
     
     Maybe now the pippa hellthread can finally fucking die at least.
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     Despite being 13 percent of the population, Africans commit over 56 percent of the violent crime in the United States. If you control for able bodied, military age (between 15 and 45) blacks, it's closer to 6 percent of the population causing over 56 percent of the violent crime. :holo_meth:
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     @nice-nigger @Sui So true, king! :thasrite:
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     @Sui I stopped because we were talking past each other. I figured it was better to make sure we're talking about the same things than to keep rephrasing the same point, for both of our sakes.
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     Stating and giving an example of*
     
     > When you ask leading questions I'm supposed to follow them, but not ask my own?
     The fuck are you talking about? I answered point for point, you're the one who stopped that not me lmao
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     @Sui I did some bait. But no script here. I'm satisfied with my explanation on the connection between old and new "Judaism". There's secular scholars who've came to similar decisions, although much of the time they leave out the impact of Christ and talk about it as muh Romans and such.
     >if you can't separate 3 distinct aspects even briefly enough for a few comments.
     What actually is the reason you keep bringing that up? Of course I CAN separate them, I just also find it reductionist. Culture is downstream from people, especially the more self-isolating peoples.
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     If you want to open up new weakpoint tangents, like jesus being a mortal god that could be overpowered by a few romans with pointy sticks then by all means. Much omnipotence very wow. I assume you'd rather pass? We've already tangented far from the original topic, your position still seems mutually exclusive to me and I still don't think we can have a good faith discussion on the topic (if you can't separate 3 distinct aspects even briefly enough for a few comments). Ideology and religion simply don't play a role at that age, if it did then the indoctrination wouldn't be necessary to maintain religions/ideologies.
     
     Bait went both ways, you didn't veer too far from the religious apologist script. Most of that reads as total bait to me, I just assume you were trying to be more good faith than it was coming across to me. Well, up until near the end anyway lol
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     @Sui @BowsacNoodle
     
     Is it too late for "a rabbi, priest, and a monk walk into a bar" joke?
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     Judaism as in ideology/religion, sure. The genetics are still basically the same, kikes are often autistic about tracking that shit and are weird about bloodlines. Not as an ethnicity though, which is the only relevant factor for them being born as jews. As I've repeatedly said, we're just talking about different things.
     
     > What actually is the reason you keep bringing that up?
     
     The same reason I listed each time I mentioned it, and again above this. Only 1 of the 3 is relevant, the other 2 are not relevant. Ping ponging into the other 2 is tangenting away from the topic. Indoctrination is required for religions to survive, that wouldn't be the case if your theory was accurate to a significant degree. The babies haven't done shit, they're literally dumber than pigs until they're toddlers.
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     @Sui Why are you bringing up babies? It's not pingpong, but how they've survived and lived since their temple fell and then was swallowed by the earth when a rebuild was attempted. Do you not agree that jews are more tribal than other people? The way they form their tribe and maintain their power block is through ethnoreligious beliefs. Your disinterest or avoidance of that is odd to me. Even the average darkfedi Nazi would say Bobby Fischer was pretty based, and he was at least half jewish (allegedly).
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     @Sui I never read that other thread. I replied and took it over here.
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     > Why are you bringing up babies?
     
     Because that was the original topic? Well the original topic of the religion tangent, after the simp's bf tried to run defence.
     
     > It's not pingpong,
     
     Yes it is, it's completely irrelevant to the topic that you've apparently forgotten about lol.
     
     > Do you not agree that jews are more tribal than other people?
     
     Not really nah. Retards of all colours and creeds can be extremely tribal. They're more often selfish, not tribal. They act like a bucket of crabs. Zionists are a lot more tribal/retarded, because religion's added in and it always does that.
     
     > The way they form their tribe and maintain their power block is through ethnoreligious beliefs.
     
     That's describes all of the abrahamic faiths, most faiths throughout history really.
     
     > Your disinterest or avoidance of that is odd to me.
     
     It's completely irrelevant to the topic, the one we're meant to be trying to stick to and be good faith about. As I've outlined like 5+ times now. What part of it doesn't make sense? You keep talking around it and pretending I didn't already say it multiple times. They lack the intellect and indoctrination for religion or ideology to be relevant at birth.
     
     > average darkfedi Nazi
     
     I'm not a nationalist nor a socialist so.. 🤷♂️
     
     > Bobby Fischer
     
     Literally who?
     
     > I just don't get it.
     
     I'm anti zionist/fundamentalism, I don't limit that to the jews.
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     Speaking of who do you think the modern jews are, I don't think I ever heard your opinion on it 🤔
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     @Omega_Variant @Sui Probably have blood relation pretty far back, but I don't know if it's Khazarian or whatever else along the way. It doesn't matter too much to me or I've never put a ton of time into digging up info.
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     Ok wait, so we weren't even talking about the initial/main premise?
     ... Which tangent was this tangent about? This was legit doomed from the start lmao
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     @Sui Christ being jewish and the distinction was the tangent that brought this over here, hence my focus on that point.
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     @Sui >So what am I missing here?
     I'll ask you to accept some premises as valid for discussion sake, so that I can explain the distinction. I realize you don't believe them, and you're free to reject them in the real world. If you want to know what you're missing, I'd like to explain it and make sure we don't waste time arguing the validity of foundational points I take as true. In other words, not turning this into a "Christianity vs atheism", because that's a waste of both of our time and seemingly not what you want clarification on, right?
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     Ok, distinction:
     - Both were born jews; jew mothers, jew bloodlines etc.
     - One denounced judaism/yahweh, the other lived and died for it.
     - The one who denounced it is apparently somehow more jewish, because it's inconvenient otherwise.
     - Cultural/religious influences are irrelevant, as it's about being born as something not getting indoctrinated into afterwards.
     
     So what am I missing here? How is it not totally hypocritical and self defeating to both worship a kike and denounce people for being born kikes, regardless of what they do with their lives after that?
     How is following kike mythology somehow less jewish than denouncing it? Are buddhists more jewish than jews? How about sikhs? Atheists?
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     @Sui @BowsacNoodle No it is just stating facts. They aren't the same people. That's a common misunderstanding and is important to clarify.
     
     The Biblical jews were terrible people as well, they aren't much better than modern jews.
     
     With people like you though it is pointless to go into much detail, with you having made statements about "worshipping a jew." Christians don't worship jews, they worship God. Jesus was simply God in human form. That's why you have towns in Spain and France with names like "Kill all jews".
     
     People like yourself who insist on Christians "worshipping a jew" are deliberately obtuse and aren't interested in any kind of understanding.
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     So your stance is: more/pure jew = good, less/mutt jew = bad?
     Not sure how being more jew isn't worse, but ok lol.
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     @Sui @BowsacNoodle >The genetics are still basically the same
     
     Biblical jews were almost completely exterminated by the Assyrians and the Romans. Modern day jews are a mutt race comprised of a mix of European and Middle Eastern peoples.
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     @Sui @BowsacNoodle That's my point bud.
     
     Jesus was God in human form. That's the central point of Christianity. If you can't understand that you are either a retard or just trying to start flame wars.
     
     Like I said, Christians have built towns where the name is literally "Kill all jews," and most pogroms and expulsions of jews were undertaken by Christians.
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     No two generations are though, does that mean none of us are white because we're not the same as our ancestors?
     
     Jesus was a biblical jew.. I'm guessing you're excluding these "good/pure jews" though, because that'd be awkward for you if not.
     
     > With people like you
     
     Yes yes, great method of trying to get across a point. Skip.
     
     > People like yourself
     
     Double skip.
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     @Sui @samjayganges >Ok guys, everyone toss in your white cards. This coon said we're not white anymore. He also hates jesus I guess, because he's a jew in the bible.
     
     This was the type of stuff I rightfully called out as bad faith yesterday. I just got home, but I'll give you a proper reply later to the other post. Don't do this if you want people to not call you rude names.
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     > That's my point bud.
     
     Ok guys, everyone toss in your white cards. This coon said we're not white anymore. He also hates jesus I guess, because he's a jew in the bible.
     
     > Jesus was God in human form. That's the central point of Christianity. If you can't understand that
     
     That's not provable outside of the bible. That's the central point of not being a christian. If you can't understand that...
     
     Fucking retard lmao.
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     @nice-nigger @Sui @ThisFuckinGuy @Jean_Philippe_Micheaux @samjayganges Das rite! :thasrite:
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     @ThisFuckinGuy @Sui @BowsacNoodle @Jean_Philippe_Micheaux @samjayganges AWRIGHT LOOK WHEN HE BE CLIMBIN TO DEM NEW HEIGHTS BEYOND THE SCALE OF AWW CRACKUH-ASS WHYBEECHES MAIN IT SHOWS HOW HE BE CLIMBIN REAL HIGH AND GOOD NIGGA KNOWMSAYIN BUT THEN HE DUMPIN DUH MILK ON HIS BOOBIES MAIN AWN GAWD NIGGA, CANT ESCAPE DUH WHYMAN CAN YA NIGGA SSHHHHHEEEEEEEIIIIIIT MMMMMMMHMMMMMMMMMMMM DASRITE :jeb_smoke:
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     I gotta give it too matty this incomprehensible upgrade is really something
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     Gettem niggy
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     @ThisFuckinGuy @Sui @BowsacNoodle @Jean_Philippe_Micheaux @samjayganges Awright cuh so whachoo be sayin n sheeit sail of foam I got dat ifoam plus main on gawwwww :eceleb:
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     muh tummuh hurts :batcandy:
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     @ThisFuckinGuy @Sui @BowsacNoodle @samjayganges He’s a schizophrenic welsh man we are scared of him and what he would do to our pets if we don’t monitor him
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     I'm as welsh as you are french, Mr John Phil Michael.
     
     > we are scared of him and what he would do to our pets if we don’t monitor him
     
     Look, that was ONE TIME ok? Fuck. How was I supposed to know it was just a deep sleeper, not dead?
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     I'm more impressed people still engage you after all these years
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     @Sui @BowsacNoodle @samjayganges Stop taking baths in them then asshole
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     Don't come between a bong and their bean baths.
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     ... But how else am I meant to get paypiggies? I'm running out beans John, nobody's gonna like what happens when I'm out.
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     > we all human beans
     
     My culture is not your costume John
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     @Sui @BowsacNoodle @samjayganges please stop posting pics from your onlybeans account
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     @Sui @samjayganges @BowsacNoodle Sui we all human beans
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     Me - No two generations are though, does that mean none of us are white because we're not the same as our ancestors?
     
     Coon - That's my point bud.
     
     I get that holding your own side to your alleged standards is tough, but at least don't be a total faggot and project their bad faith onto me.
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     @Sui @samjayganges What else do you call it when you play fast and loose madlibz style with your assumed interpretations of people?
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     @Sui @samjayganges I don't do that unless I'm making a joke. I'm old though, so maybe that's just me.
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     ... You mean every single fucking disagreement, at any scale, on fedi?
     I dunno, normal?
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     @Sui @samjayganges One of my mutuals. If the point of this is good faith discussion, I think it's best if we keep uncharitable interpretations to a minimum. Case in point, I've only accused you of jewish behavior twice out of all these posts. 😆
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     Yeah, it's not past a joke for me either. I don't know whoever the fuck that guy is, this might be the first time we've ever talked and it's been very surface level shit. His opinions about "People like you" and so on are literally meaningless bait, as that coon doesn't shit about fuck. His arguments I poked holes in, he claims to agree but continues rambling anyway. So I laugh at him and call him a fucking retard.
     
     I don't see how any of that is crossing a line tbh? Public threads about controversial topics aren't really going to remain PG-13 for long around here right?
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     Between the two of us, sure. I've been trying to keep it much more civil/effortposty than the average theological thread goes. Randoms that jump in and were not part of us agreeing to be on our best behavior? They're still fair game for a jab or two imo, no matter the intentions of a thread the longer it goes on the more chance of it going hellthread.
     
     > Case in point, I've only accused you of jewish behavior twice out of all these posts.
     
     Lmao, I've lost count of how many times I've said jew but the topic's about kike mythology so fuck it lol
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     @BowsacNoodle @Sui It's the oversimplification and intentional misrepresentation that shows he's not serious.
     
     Like I said if you can't understand that Christians believe Jesus is God in human form, regardless of whether you personally believe it or not, you can't discuss Christianity full stop.
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