@Sui >So what am I missing here?
I'll ask you to accept some premises as valid for discussion sake, so that I can explain the distinction. I realize you don't believe them, and you're free to reject them in the real world. If you want to know what you're missing, I'd like to explain it and make sure we don't waste time arguing the validity of foundational points I take as true. In other words, not turning this into a "Christianity vs atheism", because that's a waste of both of our time and seemingly not what you want clarification on, right?