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   FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Sep-2022 19:45:29 JST FediTips has moved!

   Interesting... mastodon.online (often used for testing upcoming features) now has a new public web page, see the attached screenshot.

   This is the view *without* being logged in, and shows the Explore tab by default, with options to see Local and Federated. Try it yourself at https://mastodon.online

   There hasn't been a new Mastodon release since May, yet there are some important new features now active on mastodon.online but not yet released in the main version, including hashtag following, built-in translation etc. Post editing isn't available, but it's been part of the code for a whie now in a deactivated form.

   It's unclear why there hasn't been a new release in such a long time as new features pile up waiting to go out. Are they planning to release lots of important features all at once in some kind of mega-release?

   #Mastodon

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Sep-2022 20:01:09 JST FediTips has moved!

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     I like the way non-users can see the trending posts etc in Explore, it gives them a better feel for what they might see on the server and the Fediverse.

     However, one thing greatly concerns me about this new landing page, the server's identity is invisible to outsiders. There's no longer any custom picture or custom intro text, and it would make servers look identical.

     It's also quite hard to see the "about this server" link to look up more info including the server's rules.

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Sep-2022 20:04:53 JST FediTips has moved!

     • catboy

     @catboy

     Yes, was thinking that. A huge blank area that could be neatly filled with the server's own custom info.

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Sep-2022 20:13:21 JST FediTips has moved!

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     • Brayd :mastodon: :vegan:
     • Kristian

     @z428 @brayd

     Totally understand if they take a while between releases, no complaints at all! :)

     I was just puzzled why releases would slow down when so many major features are already on mastodon.online and haven't been released more widely. Feels odd?

     Especially wondering about hashtag following, that's been on mastodon.online a while now.

     It's an interesting theory about the official app, that was released with lots of features still missing. As you say, maybe delay is is due to wanting to let the official app catch up with what the web version has.

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     Kristian (z428@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Thursday, 29-Sep-2022 20:13:24 JST Kristian

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     • Brayd :mastodon: :vegan:

     @brayd It's for sure good they're not a multi-billion dollar company, but having the same (or more) resources at hand to build a more ethical piece of software and service surely would be cool..... ?

     @feditips

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     Brayd :mastodon: :vegan: (brayd@braydmedia.de)'s status on Thursday, 29-Sep-2022 20:13:30 JST Brayd :mastodon: :vegan:

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     • Kristian

     @z428 @feditips agreed. Also at the end of the day it's still an open source project that doesn't have the same resources as multi billion dollar companies have - which is good

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     Kristian (z428@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Thursday, 29-Sep-2022 20:13:32 JST Kristian

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     @feditips Blind guess: Maybe it's "just" due to testing and QA. Mastodon gradually becomes more visible with each and every Twitter exodus, and the more it does, the more it's possibly helpful to have releases in which web UI and mobile app work somehow seamlessly together and most of the important features do as they're supposed to. Maybe from that point of view, 4 months between releases aren't that long a time. ?

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-Sep-2022 22:18:03 JST FediTips has moved!

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     • tomek

     @tomek

     If you clear the search term from the search box, it will show you the general trends.

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     tomek@mastodon.online's status on Thursday, 29-Sep-2022 22:18:04 JST tomek

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     @feditips Well, now also non-logged users can see that "nothing is popular now" in three of these tabs - Posts, News and For You.
     When I'm logged in I see this label too.

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 00:58:20 JST FediTips has moved!

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     • tomek

     @tomek

     Ahhh.... interesting. Thank you for the info!

     Do you have the language filter switched on? Or is this just from setting your own language?

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     tomek@mastodon.online's status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 00:58:21 JST tomek

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     @feditips Search box is empty, Szukaj = Search.

     Only hashtags and For You sections are working (when I'm logged in) and I have had this problem since I'm on this instance. Probably because I have set polish lang.

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 05:19:25 JST FediTips has moved!

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     • teledyn ?

     @teledyn

     Thanks for headsup

     I'm getting the same on Firefox on Linux, have reported it on github in a possibly related issue.

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     teledyn ? (teledyn@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 05:19:26 JST teledyn ?

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     @feditips when I hit the #Mastodon online hamburger menu with android chrome I get

     Due to a bug in our code or a browser compatibility issue, this page could not be displayed correctly.

     Try refreshing the page. If that does not help, you may still be able to use Mastodon through a different browser or native app.

     At the url https://mastodon.online/web/getting-started

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 05:20:54 JST FediTips has moved!

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     • James from DistroToot ?

     @james

     Hmm... wonder if that's deliberate to drive people away from larger servers, or to drive people towards joinmastodon?

     Bear in mind this is still a test, they do often alter features before they get into the release version.

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     James from DistroToot ? (james@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 05:20:55 JST James from DistroToot ?

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     @feditips This hasn't made it obvious that you can sign up for mastodon.online at https://mastodon.online/about, but if you try to click "Create account" while in this interface, you'll be redirected to https://joinmastodon.com/servers instead.

     https://mastodon.social is also open for signup, alongside mastodon.online.

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     Tekchip (tekchip@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 08:49:56 JST Tekchip

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     @feditips maybe still in progress? Seems plausible.

     Though, lack of transparency isn't really what you want from your open projects, is it. ?

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 08:50:16 JST FediTips has moved!

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     • Tekchip

     @Tekchip

     It's possible that there's a public discussion of this somewhere on the github page, but I couldn't find the right issue if there is. I had a look, but maybe my search skills aren't good enough :/

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 09:39:38 JST FediTips has moved!

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     • Tribbick
     • Kermode

     @gemlog @trebach

     Unlisted is public, it just prevents it turning up in Explore, Local, Federated etc. But unlisted posts are visible on your public profile so they would be crawlable.

     The non-public settings are followers-only (combined with follow requests switched on) and direct/mentioned.

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     Kermode (gemlog@tilde.zone)'s status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 09:39:39 JST Kermode

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     • Tribbick

     @trebach
     I may make my default posting more restrictive. I already know enough people anyhow I think. I currently go with 'unlisted'. Not sure if this makes those public or not - because there is the other case of 'public', which I interpret as 'crawlable' by google et alia.
     @feditips

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 10:08:44 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • かき@GNUsocialJP
     • tomek

     @tomek @feditips It's because of your language preference. This will be fixed before release.

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 10:10:08 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • かき@GNUsocialJP

     @feditips It's a work in progress

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 10:58:55 JST Eugen Rochko

     • かき@GNUsocialJP
     • catboy
     • NGI Zero open source funding

     @catboy @feditips It's both. I prefer big updates that have exciting stuff in them. We've also been focusing on our @NGIZero grant.

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 11:02:02 JST FediTips has moved!

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     • Tribbick
     • Kermode

     @gemlog @trebach

     Just to make clear, DMs are not crawlable.

     They're also not easily accessible by the admin.

     In theory a server owner could see them by looking at the database, but there's nothing in the Masto admin interface to allow this.

     The privacy risk on DMs is that a technically proficient admin could in theory look directly at the database, but they'd have to go out of their way to do this. It's not a built-in function of the Masto software.

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     Kermode (gemlog@tilde.zone)'s status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 11:02:03 JST Kermode

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     • Tribbick

     @trebach
     Oh, it wasn't like I was depending on it for anything life threatening ;-)
     I just had a faulty understanding. Even '@'/dm's aren't actually private. Only e2e with no mitm is actually secure.
     Even so, there's always that pesky $5 wrench! ;-)
     https://xkcd.com/538/
     @feditips

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     Tribbick (trebach@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 11:02:04 JST Tribbick

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     • Kermode

     @gemlog @feditips Short of making it inaccessible without a password or blocking all the GoogleBot IP ranges, Google's going to crawl everything. Even then, I wouldn't put it past them to bury some code in Chrome so it sends back whatever their users are looking at to circumvent any blocks on their crawlers

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     Kermode (gemlog@tilde.zone)'s status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 11:02:05 JST Kermode

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     • Tribbick

     @feditips
     I thought setting unlisted meant that they weren't crawlable and only logged in users could access them. Thanks.
     @trebach

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 11:02:44 JST FediTips has moved!

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     • Eugen Rochko
     • catboy
     • NGI Zero open source funding

     @Gargron @catboy @NGIZero

     Sounds good :)

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 11:28:50 JST FediTips has moved!

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     • Tribbick
     • Kermode

     @gemlog @trebach

     Ah, sorry, didn't intend any questioning of your skills :)

     I should have said the reply was aimed at people reading the thread!

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     Kermode (gemlog@tilde.zone)'s status on Friday, 30-Sep-2022 11:28:51 JST Kermode

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     • Tribbick

     @feditips
     Yes, I did understand the same. I'm also reasonably adept at sql and postgresql is my favourite weapon of choice ;-)
     There's always a level of trust extended to admins and one just hopes they have the same level of respect for their users as you do for your own.
     Still, it's unwise to post state secrets or any recent murders you may have committed! :-)
     @trebach

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Oct-2022 10:55:53 JST FediTips has moved!

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     UPDATE: Looks like they've now corrected these issues! ?

     The latest version of the updated landing page now uses the empty space to include info about the server, custom artwork and a prominent link to find out more. See the attached screenshot.

     #Mastodon