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   FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 01:29:57 JST FediTips has moved!

   The Fediverse is a network thousands of independent social media servers of many different kinds.

   The most popular kind is Mastodon, but it wasn't the first and isn't the only kind. Some of the accounts you interact with are on other server types, for example @Iancylkowski is on Pixelfed and @theatticdwellers is on PeerTube. There are many Fediverse server types:

   ➡️ https://fedi.tips/what-other-kinds-of-servers-are-on-the-fediverse/

   Whichever type you're signed up on, they connect together to form a social network called the Fediverse.

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 01:40:58 JST FediTips has moved!

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     • Bumble

     @bumble

     Whoops! I've added it in now.

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     Bumble (bumble@ibe.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 01:41:05 JST Bumble

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     @feditips@mstdn.social 🫣
     
     You omitted #calckey from the list. We're like Mastodon, but with bells and whistles
     
     I can't eat my honey for the tears! 🍯 🐝
     
     🤣😉

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 01:46:26 JST FediTips has moved!

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     • spidey :Clairen_0: :Hodan_0:

     @oldmanspidey

     I don't recommend Lemmy (this is why: https://mstdn.social/@feditips/106835057054633379).

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     spidey :Clairen_0: :Hodan_0: (oldmanspidey@discuss.smash.today)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 01:46:27 JST spidey :Clairen_0: :Hodan_0:

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     @feditips also Lemmy!

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     PhantaNews ✅ (phantanews@mastodon.online)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 01:49:22 JST PhantaNews ✅

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     @feditips Unfortunately I had to discover that it does not work that way. The results I get an a hashtag serach differ dramatically depending on how big the instance is that I search from. To test that I did setup my own instance and tested from that and from accounts on smaller and bigger instances. I get A LOT more results on a big instance than on smaller ones. IMHO that defies the purpose of the #Fediverse and is a major problem ...

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     • PhantaNews ✅

     @phantanews

     Less connected servers can mitigate this by using relays, especially the newer topic-based relays:

     https://fedi.tips/using-relays-to-quickly-expand-a-servers-view-of-the-fediverse/

     I don't think this is linked to server types though, federation visibility issues would be the same even if every server was the same type.

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     • J.Kakaofanatiker💙💛

     @JKakaofanatiker

     I think it's a horrible idea and servers should block Threads right now.

     Meta/Facebook's reputation is horrifying, we should have nothing to do with them:

     https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence

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     J.Kakaofanatiker💙💛 (jkakaofanatiker@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 01:50:36 JST J.Kakaofanatiker💙💛

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     @feditips

     What do you think about Meta joining it with Instagram Threads?

     I think that on the one hand it's cool that it gives all kinds of non tech-savvy people easy access to the Fediverse, but on the other hand, many Threads users probably won't use it.

     Another problem I see is that Meta could collect data about users on other platforms / instances like Mastodon when they interact with Threads users or vice versa which can happen unknowingly.

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 01:55:46 JST FediTips has moved!

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     • Vincent Biret

     @vincentbiret

     Your account is tied to the server you signed up on. You can't use it to sign in on another server, even if it was the same type of server.

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     Vincent Biret (vincentbiret@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 01:55:47 JST Vincent Biret

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     @feditips I was wondering whether there's a trick to use the different services but with a single identity? I don't want to have a set of credentials for each service. Maybe with decentralized identity?

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     • Vincent Biret

     @vincentbiret

     Could you give some examples of identity federation which don't involve centralised services or blockchain?

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     Vincent Biret (vincentbiret@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 02:03:25 JST Vincent Biret

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     @feditips that's the impression I had. It just feels strange to have multiple sets of credentials for the FEDIverse when identity federation has existed for over a decade. And now we even have decentralized identities removing the need for a central service.

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     • spidey :Clairen_0: :Hodan_0:
     • reversetilde

     @reversetilde @oldmanspidey

     No, it's not that. It's that the lead developers are the ones who run the problematic servers.

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     reversetilde (reversetilde@leafposter.club)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 02:04:05 JST reversetilde

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     • spidey :Clairen_0: :Hodan_0:
     @feditips @oldmanspidey Basically they dont do the kind of censorship they split from reddit for. If you think not taking down a post is equivalent to a human rights abuse then you are correct to stay away from these places in general
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     • Adrian Morales

     @adrianmorales @Iancylkowski @theatticdwellers

     If it helps at all, I try to highlight interesting videos over on @FediVideo

     I know there isn't much right now, but it's a start, and it can be incredibly useful. For example when Blender's YouTube channel was taken down without explanation they started a PeerTube instance to make sure the videos were available. You can see it at https://video.blender.org and follow the main account at @blender

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     Adrian Morales (adrianmorales@ieji.de)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 02:09:06 JST Adrian Morales

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     @feditips @Iancylkowski @theatticdwellers PeerTube, I so want it to succeed, but there's nothing interesting on it right now.

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     • King Calyo

     @dragonarchitect @Iancylkowski @theatticdwellers

     PT used to have federation problems on older versions, is the server for the account you're following on an older version of PT?

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     King Calyo (dragonarchitect@rubber.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 02:22:58 JST King Calyo

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     @feditips @Iancylkowski @theatticdwellers I should note that I seem to be encountering compatibility issues between mastodon and some other activitypub apps like pixelfed or peertube. I follow a peertube account but as far as I can tell I've not seen a single post of theirs show up in my timeline.

     So it is also highly dependent on whether or not the software that runs the instance you're on even supports the types of data they receive.

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     • Super Nintendo Chalmers

     @64bithero

     It's very new compared to Mastodon, there hasn't been time for them to develop yet. Mastodon has been going since 2016.

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     Super Nintendo Chalmers (64bithero@mstdn.games)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 13:17:27 JST Super Nintendo Chalmers

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     @feditips kind of want to try calckey but the lack of mobile apps is odd

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 09-Jul-2023 09:49:57 JST FediTips has moved!

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     • Dan Morris
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     @l82be @coldfish @Iancylkowski @theatticdwellers

     If you post something with a public visibility anywhere on the internet, it can be scraped. It may not be legal in every country, but it's technically possible.

     The alternatives on here are to use a followers-only or mentions-only visibility (and some servers have a server-only visibility too, usually ones that run Glitch or Hometown versions of Mastodon).

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     Dan Morris (coldfish@sfba.social)'s status on Sunday, 09-Jul-2023 09:50:04 JST Dan Morris

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     @l82be @feditips @Iancylkowski @theatticdwellers

     Anyone can scrape data from the fediverse if it's listed as public data, otherwise it wouldn't work. FB Twitter, Google, etc... are private and allow some access, but that's it.

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     Me (l82be@mstdn.ca)'s status on Sunday, 09-Jul-2023 09:50:04 JST Me

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     • Dan Morris
     @coldfish@sfba.social @feditips@mstdn.social @Iancylkowski@pixelfed.social @theatticdwellers@tilvids.com So f'kn Fb can take my data off of the fediverse? There is a reason I never joined Fb, now you are saying they can access via Meta?
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     Me (l82be@mstdn.ca)'s status on Sunday, 09-Jul-2023 09:50:08 JST Me

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     @feditips@mstdn.social @Iancylkowski@pixelfed.social @theatticdwellers@tilvids.com Does the Fediverse connect with Fb or Google where Fb or Google can scrape the data contained in the Fediverse?
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     Me (l82be@mstdn.ca)'s status on Sunday, 09-Jul-2023 09:59:22 JST Me

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     • Dan Morris
     @feditips@mstdn.social @coldfish@sfba.social @Iancylkowski@pixelfed.social @theatticdwellers@tilvids.com Yes I know how the internet works. But I go out of my way not to be part of any thing that has anything close to a coalition with Fb or Meta.
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     • Dan Morris
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     @l82be @coldfish @Iancylkowski @theatticdwellers

     The Fediverse isn't one thing, it's thousands of indie sites which talk to each other. They don't even run the same software, some run Mastodon but others run totally diferent stuff.

     If you want to avoid any "coalition" servers, they would probably the handful of really huge servers that Meta seems to have had a meeting with.

     We know at least Fosstodon.org told Meta to go away as they published the letter and their uncompromising reply.

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     Ryan Hamel (mrhamel@calckey.club)'s status on Sunday, 09-Jul-2023 10:44:57 JST Ryan Hamel

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     • Dan Morris
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     @l82be@mstdn.ca @coldfish@sfba.social @feditips@mstdn.social @Iancylkowski@pixelfed.social @theatticdwellers@tilvids.com It depends on how they implement ActivityPub into Threads. None of us see why you're so tinfoil hat over Meta/Facebook when literally anyone and anything can take your data on this ecosystem. Public data is public data. If you don't want that, make it private or do not post on the Internet.

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     • Dan Morris
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     @mrhamel @Iancylkowski @theatticdwellers @l82be @coldfish

     My main reason for block Meta is moral, they have been involved with so many horrible things for such a prolonged period.

     Federating with them is helping them, and we shouldn't be helping them.

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     • Dan Morris
     • Ryan Hamel
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     @mrhamel @Iancylkowski @theatticdwellers @l82be @coldfish

     I run my accounts and sites because I am so shocked by the depravities of Meta etc and want to encourage better alternatives.

     If I didn't have such a low opinion of Meta, I wouldn't be pouring most of my spare time into helping the Fediverse with FediTips, FediFollows, FediGarden, FediVideo, GrowYourOwn etc.

     "every instance needs to be given the same respect."

     Absolutely not. Meta have done terrible things:

     https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence

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     Ryan Hamel (mrhamel@calckey.club)'s status on Sunday, 09-Jul-2023 11:04:57 JST Ryan Hamel

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     • Dan Morris
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     @feditips@mstdn.social @Iancylkowski@pixelfed.social @theatticdwellers@tilvids.com @l82be@mstdn.ca @coldfish@sfba.social That is your OPINION. Is your account to provide tips, or provide opinions on how the Fediverse functions? You seem to be doing the latter as of lately, which shows your bias. You want openness, every instance large or small needs to be given the same respect.

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     • Ryan Hamel
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     @mrhamel @Iancylkowski @theatticdwellers @l82be @coldfish

     Ahahahah, no they won't. My accounts will never be reachable by Threads.

     There's no point doing outreach to a platform from whcih people are not allowed to leave.

     They're even creating accounts for people who never signed up for Threads, people on Insta are suddenly finding Meta has created them a Threads account without their knowledge, and they cannot delete the Threads account without deleting their Insta account. It's awful.

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     Ryan Hamel (mrhamel@calckey.club)'s status on Sunday, 09-Jul-2023 20:55:25 JST Ryan Hamel

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     • Dan Morris
     • Me

     @feditips@mstdn.social @Iancylkowski@pixelfed.social @theatticdwellers@tilvids.com @l82be@mstdn.ca @coldfish@sfba.social Yet this account and some of your others will soon be reachable by Threads. It would be very stupid of you to mute that instance, which would directly hinder any outreach of getting those to switch over to another app and/or instance.