Yeah this is 100% me lmao :dragnblanketsleep:
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Yeah this is 100% me lmao :dragnblanketsleep:
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@shiri @snarfed.org You misunderstand me - I'm well aware of how follows work on Fedi. What I'm suggesting is that there be an additional active consent prompt via DM specifically for the Bridgy Fed bridge when someone follows you through the bridge - the idea being since BlueSky is an external service and not part of the Fediverse, this not only informs users that Bridgy Fed is a thing and gives them control over whether or not they will allow their posts to be bridged over to BlueSky independent of their normal Fedi follow settings.
@snarfed.org @activitypubblueskybridge @fedidevs @fediversenews Here's a thought... While it's not a concern for me, I'm seeing a lot of worry from others about wanting opt-in consent for this bridge. Could you consider (either by option or by default) having the bridge send newly-followed users a message through their service saying, basically, "this is an automatic message from Bridgy Fed. <User> wants to follow you from <service> via this bridge. Do you want to allow this?" and offer always, yes, no, and full opt-out options in response. The user who initiated the follow request wouldn't see anything until the newly-followed user responded, and no response would equal a "no" answer.
That, or the first time a user is followed via the bridge, could there be an automatic info message sent to the newly-followed user with instructions on how to opt-out?
Would something like that be doable?
@pixelpusher220 @noxypaws @snarfed.org @activitypubblueskybridge @fedidevs @fediversenews uh yeah, that's the whole point. This bridge acts just like a regular Fedi user and follows all the same rules. If the bridge can't see your posts, it can't do anything with them - and you have full control over how visible your posts are. You also have the option of adding a hashtag to your profile, defederating from the domain the bridge lives on, or contacting the dev for a manual opt-out.
Plus, as far as I can tell, absolutely none of this is intended to happen in a vacuum. The documentation I linked earlier explains that users who are followed via the bridge still get a notification that they were followed, just like they were followed by a regular Fedi account. You'll see the BlueSky user names of each user that follows you through the bridge, and you'll be able to block individual users from seeing your account through the bridge if you so choose (in addition to the options above).
You'll have the same control over who can see your content that you would with any other Fedi user.
I'd strongly recommend reading the documentation to get a better understanding of how this is intended to work when it goes live.
@pixelpusher220 @noxypaws @snarfed.org @activitypubblueskybridge @fedidevs @fediversenews Honestly no, I don't. First of all, I was only talking about my own preferences in that regard. If I post something with full public visibility, I have zero expectation of privacy on that post. But that said, a public post is a public post. Any time you make a public post on Fedi, that post is copied to other instances and other services through federation in order for others to view it. This is entirely by design. If you do not wish a post to be seen by any random user on the Fediverse, you are empowered with multiple ways to make that happen - be it blocking the user, blocking their instance, or adjusting your account or post privacy settings. According to the documentation (https://fed.brid.gy/docs) for the bridge, it's intended to work the same way, with the same restrictions - posts would not get picked up by the bridge until someone follows you, you would receive notifications any time someone followed you (there are NO anonymous follows), and you can block that user from following you just as if they were a native Fedi user. If the post or account is not public, then the bridge won't even know the post exists to do anything with it.
@noxypaws @snarfed.org @activitypubblueskybridge @fedidevs @fediversenews The Fediverse is already made up of literally dozens of various services that all speak the same protocol - Mastodon, Firefish, Pixelfed, Pleroma, Frendica, among many others - and users on one service can freely interact with users on another service. Personally I don't see this bridge as being anything different, really. I have essentially zero issue with a public post of mine being visible to any and all - that's the whole point of a public post on the open web, imo. As long as they hold true to their word that non-public posts won't be viewable via the bridge, I have no issues with it.
@snarfed.org @activitypubblueskybridge @fedidevs @fediversenews I am excited for this, thank you for the time and effort you're putting into building this ActivityPub <> ATproto bridge, especially the two-way communication support! I have had very poor experiences with BlueSky myself, but I have multiple friends that prefer it and just aren't interested in Fedi. It will be amazing to be able to rebuild that part of my social circle and keep tabs with them, while still being able to utilize the filtering and timeline curation tools that only Mastodon provides right now.
*INCOHERENT YELLING* 😡
@feld I get that but... I primarily follow friends (and their friends) - not influencers. If someone I follow were to become a regular paid shill for random things, I most probably wouldn't be following them anymore.
@feld
The greater Fediverse does need to come to some sort of consensus on acceptable ads and how to handle them... But personally I don't at all mind having corporate presences here for customer interaction. I don't even mind a company touting their products/services on their own timeline, or people sharing those posts organically. But I definitely am opposed to paid ad placements.
I think it's fine if someone I follow really likes a product or service and wants to share info from them - word-of-mouth advertising, in essence - I just don't want companies to be able to pay to shove crap in my face like they can on Twitter.
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