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Notices by pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com), page 18

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    > * Natural rights = gov't prevented from doign things
    > * Civil rights = gov't given mandate to enforce equality

    A "right" is that which is due to you, and we classify them by means of the authority under which they are granted.

    I'd put "natural rights" as those things which a stranger may not prevent you from doing, and "civil rights" as the things that are due to you by statute, the things that define your relationship to the government. Contractual rights are granted by a contract.

    So, natural rights of man, you speak your mind, listen to others speak theirs, acquire knowledge, eat what food you can acquire, reproduce, defend your family and domicile, etc. Civil rights include voting, the right to a fair trial, etc., and are mostly concerned with mitigating that we live in a society. The enforced equality stuff, civil rights are the only one of the two that could plausibly apply: your civil rights are defined by the law. You have no natural right to compel someone to bake you a cake that they do not want to bake, but the civil right can be granted. Likewise, you do not have the natural right to be judged (or even noticed) by a jury of your peers, but you do have the civil right, and this was a necessary consequence of the government's statutory right to arrest and try people.

    So:

    > * Civil rights = gov't given mandate to enforce equality

    Any right would be civil if granted by the legitimate government, "legitimate" defined by the Spartan border¹, so it would include legislation like the Civil Rights Act, but I think your definition is too narrow. Any attempt by the government to enforce equality would necessarily be a civil right, but you have the right to freely travel between states, that's civil, and you have the right to drive in your car on federal roads and that is granted by statute as the holder of a valid license.

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    ¹ I don't know if anyone uses this phrase besides me but it's too useful to not use so I use it a lot. I'm certain I've used it when talking with @amerika before, but for the sake of anyone that happens upon this thread, there's an old story of an Athenian talking to a Spartan guard at the city gates, and the Athenian smugly asks the Spartan to tell him how far the borders of Sparta extend, intending to make a point about Sparta being small. The Spartan extends his spear and says "This far." So the "Spartan border" would be the limits of your governing body's ability and willingness to project force. Ultimately, this is what defines a border, succinctly, and any attempt to define a government's legitimacy beyond that is ignoring reality for the sake of an agenda.
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    @11112011 @Ninji @kaia @thatguyoverthere I think the main reason is that your local labor laws are much less permissive than the Congolese laws.
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    @11112011 @thatguyoverthere @Ninji @kaia Getting it out of the ground is a complicated logistical problem.
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    > Natural rights > human/civil rights.

    I'm not aware of a difference between natural rights and human rights; I believe those are shorthands for the same concept, the "Natural Rights of Man". Civil rights are necessarily a step removed, since they relate to rights of the citizens with respect to their government.

    (The UN is free to declare whatever they want about those things, and I think we should treat it with exactly as much weight as we treat any of their declarations: zero credibility from a philosophical standpoint, as with any attempt by a committee to decide rights. From a purely practical standpoint, nothing they declare matters unless the US declares an intention to enforce it.)
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    > funded by the 2021 bipartisan infrastructure law

    :trumpgendou:

    We should just let everyone build nuclear plants. We granted Disney a license but they didn't make it yet.
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    > End public schooling, problem solved!

    I'm on board. The UN UDHR says that you have a right to compulsory education, though, so it would be a violation of human rights to not force the children into some kind of school system.
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    @11112011 @Ninji @kaia @thatguyoverthere They're shutting those down, but I bet they have to put those signs all over the place.
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    > That is, we need people to say troublesome words in order to keep the Overton Window of speech wide open.

    :hulk: Completely in favor. "And my h4x", etc.
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    @captain_arepa @kaia @Ninji The signs are retarded but this is one of the few habitable places on earth.
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    @thatguyoverthere @Ninji @kaia Well, the State of California appears to know things that the citizens do not. I swear, someone's nephew owned a sign-making company.

    (Not quite as bad as K-12. The two biggest markets for school textbooks are (in order) Texas and California, so all of the textbooks sold in the US are designed to offend neither of those two states.)
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    @thatguyoverthere @Ninji @kaia It's known to the State of California.
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    @kaia @Ninji The "known to the State of California to cause cancer" is such a passive-aggressive tone, and they have put these signs everywhere. Parking garages have them posted at the entrances and elevators and on support columns because car exhaust is "known to the State of California to cause cancer". You may think car exhaust is healthy, but it's known to the State of California to cause cancer, the same way pi is known to the State of Indiana to be 3.
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    @pernia Enusered. Useracted.
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    @pernia I'm not altering those, I'm making a thing to make them userabled.
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    @sysrq @Paultron @PonyPanda @eris @lunarised @marine @p @p It was a weird interaction, but if someone is sleeping on the sidewalk I guess he should have expected it. Or maybe she was just creeped out by the dude.
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    @anonymous @0 @PonyPanda @eris @lunarised @marine @p @p San Diego. Wonderful place. Good food, relaxed town.
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    @anonymous @0 @PonyPanda @eris @lunarised @marine @p @p Ha, most of the people in the state are here or SF or SD. SF is awful, SD's great, but the rural areas are like any other rural areas in the country.
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    > Manhattan is like a Hollywood equivalent.

    Well, that makes sense. I kept hearing they had the best Chinese food, I was complaining the food in Brooklyn sucks. (Everything in Brooklyn sucks and I don't think I have ever seen that many women with moustaches.)

    > finance "people"

    They were eating Chinese and talking some shit that made me wish they were not in the restaurant.

    > Cheaper and less hustling because hell, if you had money to steal why are you in Queens?

    Ha, sounds like South Central. I don't mind South Central, like I wouldn't wanna live there any more but I used to run around there a lot, and the food's good. (It is also the only place in LA where someone I know was held at gunpoint, though.)
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    > Weed smokers: The incels of druggies.

    Weed is really popular, I think. I can't function on the stuff but people seem to enjoy it. This guy had no luck finding someone to smoke weed with him but I don't know why he needed someone and he couldn't just smoke his weed. It was the middle of the night in the winter, I don't know who he expected to find outside.
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    @0 @PonyPanda @eris @lunarised @marine @p @p I think people confuse "guy from SF" with "guy from LA" a lot, and guy from SF gives us a bad name.
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    BOFH of freespeechextremist.com, and former admin. The usual alt if FSE is down: @p@shitposter.club, and others. I am no longer the admin. FSE has no admins now. Welcome to the FSE Autonomous Zone.I'm not angry with you, I'm just disappointed.I am physically in Los Angeles but I exist in a permanent state of 3 a.m.I have dropped a bytebeat album, feel free to DM me for a download code or a link to a tarball: https://finitecell.bandcamp.com/album/villain . There is a chiptunes album there, too.Revolver is coming: https://liberapay.com/Revolver

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