Notices by saxnot @ 39C3 (saxnot@chaos.social), page 2

@djsumdog @melonhusk you said nobody cares
you cared enough to write me
Put together: you say you are a nobody.

I don't know why you said that but I will include you in my thoughts and prayers. I will mention you by name in my communication with our lord and savior satan. Perhaps the morning star will see you and reach out to you and help you with your struggles

@melonhusk @boghan @djsumdog I want to make it clear that me favouriting your toots is currently used as a read receipt and does not imply me (dis)liking a specific toot.

Here's the announcement of that https://chaos.social/@saxnot/113976425057529436
Usually I favourite what I like but then you would have seen it sparingly in this convo. Speaking to all three of you

@drwho you mean djsumdog.com and new.asbestos.cafe?

djsumdog.com is a single user instance of someone we would call Queerdenker here in germany. Someone who lost contact to reality during corona and now is against vaccines or something.

i have no idea about the other instance

@skylar @djsumdog @melonhusk i think i am going to disassociate myself from these "random online shizos".

I'm not likely to answer again

@djsumdog @melonhusk > Well that's insulting

no it's my impression. You published it and sent it to me so live with me considering this misinformed slander.

If everything I say about cars is wrong would you let me repair yours? No. Everything you write in regards to medicine is misinformation of yesteryear.

Vaccines are incredible effective and saved millions during corona and even before that. If you can't open your eyes keep at least your mouth shut about it

@djsumdog @melonhusk > I have not done the same to you sir.

untrue

see: your previous messages

@djsumdog @melonhusk > Appeal to authority.

It's a qualification not an authority.
All the things you mentioned a medical expert will be leagues better than a non-medical expert.

I already said it's a gauge in epistemological quality and for this specific conversation regarding this topic you already squandered the chance to be taken seriously

@djsumdog @melonhusk for now I will not block you, not defollow you, etc.

be warned I know lots of crazy people and I have a very specific area where I interact with said people and mastodon ain't it. It's very healthy for me to block crazy anti-vax losers on this account for the people I preach to are more local and more relevant to me. Plus noone needs to give a reason to keep their timeline clean.

Just… take it down a notch when interacting with me.

@djsumdog @melonhusk my aforementioned judgement is: I won't trust you on this.

You contradict solid effectiveness studies which can be seen publicly in every country of the world.
You appear to lack any qualification.
You parrot widely dismissed misconceptions.
You made a very bad first impression by fumbling through an attack towards me.

Perhaps you need faith to believe in all of these.
We others in this thread don't need any faith for we have reality on our side.

@djsumdog @(…)boghan @melonhusk i've already made a judgement and I am quite happy with it.

Ask yourself:
Are you a licensed doctor?
The medical expert around you do they consider you competent?

From what I've seen those who are most likely to have expertise on this topic can't vouch for you. I've spoken about epistemological quality before.

On your blog you write about Ivermectin which is not effective against Covid. Only people of low epistemological quality fall for what you fell for …

@djsumdog @boghan @melonhusk a small bit of this is true but your conclusion is garbage sorry.

Science doesn't ask for your belief but just for your eyes.
The reality itself is not affected by whatever religion you pick (as you said).
e. g. the effectiveness of vaccines which you mentioned are extremely easy to see. Millions in my country did not die and I can see that.

There's a limit to what I know. I won't reproduce lift mechanics at home. Noone except you said this is a goal and it's…

@djsumdog @(…)boghan @melonhusk … unclear why religion should provide this instead. Even if I am being generous and assume you were talking about the feeling of assurance even then the words you chose are not arranging into a coherent argument. You picked a goal noone talked about before and then failed to make a point with it. Bravo.

Yes I could spiral down and doubt the press about corona and look up how expensive microscopes are or I could not do it. A lot of things I verified independently…

@djsumdog @melonhusk and my conclusion is that the press e. g. Tagesschau is pretty accurante.
I did not say infallible but it's pretty ok. And that's a lot better than the extreme you proposed of being unsure about anything or the other extreme of blind faith.

Perhaps it's a mystery to you how I can have all these beliefs some of which with evidence I have never witnessed and some of which superficially incompatible with each other but it's no matter of faith.

@djsumdog @melonhusk to me personally science is not a faith. This believe is shared by a lot of people so I guess this makes you the odd one out in regards to this ontology question.

Yes I am depending on what others figured out every source of information has an inherent epistemological quality and lots of science works based on the authority of results. I did not say authority of people but authority of "whatever works best". Very very different from faith. Reality requires no faith

@djsumdog @melonhusk you made the mistake to assume I am not testing thr relationship of science and skepticism.
In fact I made no mention about my previous journey before communicating that sentence to you. I have good reason to believe that. Perhaps you should asked "Why?" instead of assuming I never asked why myself.
But you showed enough bad faith that I'm not willing to make this to a topic. Perhaps with others, sure but not with you here.

@djsumdog @melonhusk i hope I answeres all questions.

I do not wish to continue talking to you

@djsumdog @boghan @melonhusk why are we mutual followers?

You're willingly blind to the effects of vaccines? Of the millions saved against covid, polio, tetanus and all that stuff?
I don't see a warning but if it's true you believe what you just said in regards to science and vaccines then ooof just unfollow me wtf

@melonhusk @boghan @djsumdog yeah science is not a faith at all and what we call science is older than christianity

@boghan @melonhusk @djsumdog science develops and re-invents itself.
religion develops and re-invents itself

both changed in the past millenia
heck they even changed in the last decade.
This doesn't make their identity wane.

@boghan @djsumdog @melonhusk "uncomfortable" might be the wrong word.

"side eyeing your annoying small brother" describes it better.

call it a faith all you want.
Believe I have a shrine of Descartes and I light a candle at it.
you can believe it. It won't make it real but at least it's amusing for the rest of us