Notices by Alexey Skobkin (skobkin@lor.sh), page 3

@killyourfm
I have always admired how drummers play.
It's something very dynamic and meditative or hypnotizing at the same time.

Hope that some day I'll try to learn how to play drums on a basic level too.

@killyourfm
I hope you'll post some examples soon! ?

@killyourfm
Congrats!
Looks nice!

Тут за два дня к нам пришла пачка бот-аккаунтов с украинского сервера soc.ua-fediland.de.

Например, собравший больше всего репортов аккаунт со свастикой в шапке.

Если кому-то вдруг интересно, часть из них уже забанили на самом сервере. Остальные залимитированы с нашей стороны пока их не выпилят там.

Правда, тем временем из-за ботов и единичных дурачков сервер уже полетел по блоклистам:
https://mastodon.art/@Curator/109727445911117353

Это, к сожалению, очень напоминает ситуацию с @freemo и QOTO.org. Все радостно ведутся на провокации и блокируют направо и налево.

P.S. Нет, мы не блокировали soc.ua-fediland.de.

#Fediverse #Ukraine #log #bots #lorsh

@lxo
Threatening the whole network isn't very peaceful approach to solve the problem. That's what I'm talking about. And I think you know it.

@lxo
Wow. You not only missed the point I was talking about, but also mentioned the strawman argument (ignoratio elenchi) and then used it right away talking about Nazis regardless the fact that I didn't say anything about them at all.
Please read what I wrote again trying to not assume that I'm attacking author of the post or to defend someone who attacks him.

Otherwise it's pointless to continue the discussion.

@lxo
> analogous to shooting the messenger

Not at all. I'm all for the cause until the messenger straps a bomb to his chest and goes into a subway.

And if I'd be presented with a possibility to ask Eugene a question about QOTO, I'd do that.

> telling a victim to shut up

You're wrong again. I'm not telling to shut up. I'm telling that a big ad-supported campaign could be very harmful to the whole community. If it'd be me, I'd stick to more diplomatic ways of doing that. But still I understand the frustration behind this post.

> if denouncing an injustice is labeled as terrorism, but the injustice itself isn't called out, something's fishy

You can dig some history related to terrorism. If you go deep enough you can find a lot of justifying reasons for terrorists to want to get attention. Often it's related to some unjust actions by some big empire who unfairly exploits another country for example. But does it really justify terrorist which causes harm to innocent people? I'm not so sure.

> IMHO the best course of action is to get the negative action to stop

Yes. But saying something close to "Mastodon is supporting Nazis" isn't a good solution either.
And sadly lot of people will get only that from this article.

@freemo
Although it doesn't look good, I'd say that it's still a clickbait. And I also think that it's dangerous to the Fediverse itself.
Especially running a campaign in Twitter while a lot of people are trying to convince their friends to try Fediverse.
And I'm saying Fediverse because it'll hurt not only Mastodon.

So from some angles it looks quite similar to terrorists tactics.

Please note that I'm not saying that removing QOTO from the list is a good thing. I'm all for the freedom of information and against spreading misinformation myself. But it still leaves some bad aftertaste.

@drq @evan
Not so sure, but at least we're probably going in the right direction.
Omly time will tell. Some time ago we had XMPP everywhere, but something went wrong.

@inari@udongein.xyz @inari
Я уж было думал, что ты ёбнулся.
Теперь хотя бы понятно, что ёбнулись двое! ?