@Moon@theorytoe@charlie_root Maybe I'm just jaded. But this sort of thing is all around us. I remember what kind of trouble it was to make ACPI work on laptops. Yes, there's a spec, but the real world test at OEM was to boot Windows. Or, the RSS. It's actually XML and it must start with DTD. But a bunch of generators added whitespace, which choked all library parsers. Every reader from Google Reader (rest in peace) down had to strip whitespace before parsing. I don't expect anything else from AP, especially given how open-ended it is.
@Moon@theorytoe@charlie_root It's a highly naive to expect specs being sufficient for network protocols. Just look at the archives of tcp-implementors list. In fact I got a taste of it 25 years ago, when I wrote a uucp-g from scratch. Not only the classic UNIX and BSD were different, but so was UUPC. And yet it was possible to create an implementation that interoperated with all of them.
@Moon@jeremiah In that case you don't need a browser at all. Just make Java good or something, and download apps outright. The OS should provide windows or other UI, security, sandbox. Why even bother with presentation?
@lanodan There was yet another scare a few days ago, about a usual liberal bot thrawling timelines for doxxing. It happens all the time nowadays. Ideally I'd like J to start using an account on an instance.
There's something I don't understand about this: surely J. must follow more than just me, right? How does he do it? He can't reasonably visit dozens of pages every day. Do we finally support an RSS of some sort in Pleroma?
@SuperDicq@Moon@hj Was it only 15 years ago for you? I used twm some time around 1992, which was more than 30 years ago. The fvwm arrived in late 1990s some time.
@Moon@SuperDicq@hj Back when I ran twm, it pretty much needed a 3-button mouse. The 2-button chord mostly replaced the middle button, but it was inconvenient. In addition, any sensible configuration could only be done with colors, which we would now condemn as ablism.
@guizzy@Moon@coolboymew You can also found startups without any credentials. I own and run a company that makes guns. I'm not a gunsmith with an SDI diploma, and not even a mechanical engineer. And nobody gives a flip, they just pay me money for the product.
@Moon I know a guy from Linux, who's doing some very interesting stuff on 8080. He's on Fedi[0]. If I wanted to do it, I'd look at joining him and contributing something, maybe something graphical. I always thought that some kind of userland TCP was my unfinished business[1]. But I'm very afraid of being done. I feel like once I start retrocomputing, there will be no return. So I'm trying to move forward and not look back. I can do 8 bit on my deathbed.