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"I will never get a good job in programming without credentials"
I don't know any other profession except this one (and plumbing) where tons of people do that
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@Moon my old boss didn't finish elementary school and was raking in tons of money as a sw architect
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@Moon Yeah, IT in general, if you're lucky, you can get away with pure experience. A bunch of places will be dicks if you don't have certs or schooling however, but if you go to a place where it's IT that will actually interview and hire, a lot of people knows that overly certified people are usually completely useless
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@coolboymew @Moon That's what I did and I got employed by some very prestigious companies. The fields that will insist on diplomas are gonna be government and academia. Outside of that, if you're flexible with what you're willing to learn and work on and have good soft skills, it'll work out well.
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@guizzy @Moon @coolboymew You can also found startups without any credentials. I own and run a company that makes guns. I'm not a gunsmith with an SDI diploma, and not even a mechanical engineer. And nobody gives a flip, they just pay me money for the product.