@helge I haven't looked into the FEP process. I think SWICG is the right place for that kind of work.
Building on top of AP is easy, because of Activity Streams.
Adding new verbs and object types is quick and painless. On top of this, existing AP processors can handle unknown verbs and object types, because every activity and object has a fallback HTML and optional image representation.
I don't think I've wished failure on any decentralized social network platform before.
My sincerest hope is that the Blue Sky team has a change of heart and starts building on well-established protocol standards instead.
There is a long-shot option that they are able to cannibalize the existing fediverse, then use that to push out to even more users. I think this is really unlikely.
So the next best option is that they fail quickly and are forgotten soon.
I'm really sorry I have to say this. I see everyone who works on decentralized social networks as a colleague in a very important project. We might not all agree on the details of architecture or data structures, but we are working toward the same goal.
I think the acquisition of Twitter raised the stakes significantly. We need to all be working towards growing this network. Sowing confusion by launching incompatible products today may be well-intentioned, but it's clearly counterproductive.
AP has turned a corner. It's standardized and in wide use.
Building extensions on top of AP is useful and necessary, but starting over with incompatible protocols is a bad plan.
Blue Sky in particular is a bad project. It started after AP was standardized. The team had access to many many people's time and all the docs and experience of the fediverse.
But they opted to make a snowflake protocol instead. I think because they want to capture value at the protocol level.
'Prodromou, however, has strong words for any organization looking to enter social media with a new decentralized social media protocol. “I’m not interested in any protocol besides ActivityPub,” he says. “Anyone working on brand new protocols in 2023 should stop immediately. They are going to do more harm than good."'
This may be surprising for people who have known me for a long time. I've generally been supportive of trying new protocols and tools.
@shoofle sure, but I don't need to ensure that its recommendations for berry bushes in southern Quebec's climate come from unimpeachable sources. I just look up those species on Wikipedia to double-check.
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