Notices by Alex Rodríguez (arod@social.coop)

@ntnsndr what do you mean by non-profit co-op?

@ntnsndr check out @mirlo too while you're at it :)

@ntnsndr I was wondering if you two had connected, I share your concerns. It feels like A Corps only make sense if you ignore coops. Which a lot of people in the US do, but clearly that's a choice and not just garden variety ignorance on his part if he asked you for advice

@ntnsndr what do you think that is telling us?

@evan every time an RDGK quote appears in my timeline, an angel gets its wings. Spot on!

@inthehands yes you can use it just as a newsletter, just make an artist account and post updates! Right now our revenue comes mostly from monthly supporters and also from a percentage of platform sales determined by the artist.

@inthehands Mirlo can do this! https://mirlo.space

@inthehands can vouch for it being run by non-vile people :)

@ntnsndr very cool analysis and a worthwhile project though! Thanks for sharing the link

@ntnsndr I'll also believe it when I see it. Reminds me of this excellent analysis by Eli Zeger based on his experiences with "blockchain socialism" and as a worker-owner of Ampled: https://strangematters.coop/how-venture-capital-ruined-blockchain-socialism/

In the meantime, do you really need blockchain for all of this if the laws change to allow for this to be done through legal means rather than "code as law"?

@ntnsndr why? Is it because you think it would have led to openAI being shut down and the world will be better off with it?

@ntnsndr reiterating my interest, my only question is how to plug in? Unfortunately I wasn't able to join last month's organizing call but am still here and happy to help.

@ntnsndr I've expressed interest in supporting the legal wg and even had a couple of initial conversations with @ktoddbrown and @andrewe but it doesn't seem like that has legs. If that isn't going anywhere then I may be able to plug in here instead. Or maybe legal stuff could be folded into finance domain? Happy to help, just let me know how to best support.

@inthehands @cammerman @jenniferplusplus Stafford Beer's "Viable Systems Model" (outlined in _Brain of the Firm) does this well

@ntnsndr also worth noting that indigenous governance frameworks on Turtle Island have historically Incorporated trans-territorial networks quite extensively (colonial policies since settlement by Europeans have forced them to act more like territorial nation-states

@ntnsndr @Matt_Noyes maybe this points to a need for better onboarding and clarity about how we use Loomio? I am not convinced that the tool is the issue here tbh. I've seen Loomio work well for groups when there is a shared understanding of the protocols for using it. If anything the "drawback" to Loomio is its high degree of customizability, which can be a liability when groups don't have clear decision-making protocols or cla consistent culture of agreements.