@mia@kaia this book was deeply helpful for me, tho I found some of the dismissal of adhd as a neruotype tiresome, entirely think many people I see here daily should read this, along with some other books on cptsd and trauma generally -waking the tiger comes to mind.
@bri_seven this used to be a entirely standard take pre-2000's and was still common in some parts until like, 2010. Women had hrt revoked for being with another woman due to snitching to the 1 clinic in the area by other trans women.
@bri_seven yes. This bullying was enforced by the systems of power controlling who had access. The precarious nature of the situation, needing to meet the criteria of valid transness that was built off of excluding "agp"' s combined with the ideological pull of being validated by a medical system of authorities, lead to intense internal lesbophobic policing.
@nyx@larsfrommars@nae @georgia i have other context for the federici terf accusations, and a very important follow up! some of the grounded terf accusations about Federici come from talks she gave around 2012 where people asked her why trans people were not included in her analysis of the origins of modern patriarchy, and she answered by basically saying that trans people were a modern invention and that control of biological reproduction was the actual site of oppression, and gender was just an outcome, so trans people were just an outcome of this system, and were only relevant In a modern context art interruption of reproduction (This infamously resulted in one of her talks being idk sabotaged? By a crew of anti-civ gender nihilists, who basically took over the talk and turned it into a shouting match till people just gave up and people left or kept arguing till exhaustion)
!!!~However~!!! at some point within a few years after that interaction, she had changed her stance around trans people, having talked with a lot of trans feminists and indigenous trans people about trans peoples role in the patriarchal capitalist system of reproduction and the role of trans extermination in colonialism and genocide.
She's gone on to name and include trans women in her analysis of global capitalist patriarchy and the sphere of reproduction in talks she has given
I had a chance to ask her directly about how her analysis and framework has changed wrt trans women at a talk she gave several years back, and her answer (summarized) was that she had come to see the oppression of trans women as being a central component of patriarchal reproduction, and that that trans women occupy a position not unlike the lumpenproletariat in the realm of reproduction. She also connected the reaction against trans people globally to the modern day witch hunts, and to how restrictions on abortion and transness seem to go hand and hand. It was a very welcome answer
Some follow up conversations after are where my view that many pre-capitalist modes of reproduction involved implicit material bonds of what we might now call (with a limited framework) solidarity between women both trans&cis +non-binary peoples in the forms of maintained knowledge basis of medicines and capacities to navigate body changes of all sorts, given that almost all of the techniques for inducing hormone and bodily transformations also can modify any hormonal effect, such as controlling menstruation, modifying fertility, inducing abortions, or easing elements of menopause, not to mention literally everything else hormones regulate; and that this is why so many trans women are priestesses of fertility goddesses or have sacred roles similar to that of "wise women" in many indigenous social orders; and thus, that rupturing this social form bonding mutual flows of support is always implicitly part of the colonization and ethno/genocide of social orders by patriarchal capitalist modernity (and is part of the dynamic process of modernities construction that creates/produces the divisions between trans and cis women)
Truly I think we see echo's of this, I mean, a nontrivial amount of trans women are abortion dulas. Now if only we could convince more cis women to also be transition dulas.... (No more sister wars!!! Death to patriarchy!!!)
"Cancer is right-adventurism, comrade; I'm begging you to study dialects"
A slime girl staring wistfully out the window: "gosh, if only someone had some kind of vision for a full reworking of the basis of all biologic manifestation that could entirely integrate these concerns…"
@eris consider me audacious then bitch! I said I don't see you as an enemy just because I think your behavior is emotionally disregulated siege mentality and said it, but keep trying to make enemies while complain about wokescolds and leftists lol
@Arcana I do not have a deep familiarity with jewish history, so its not really something I feel qualified to speak on - certainly not from one essay. But, equating the zionism of the 1800's with the zionism of today strikes me as entirely ahistorical. That is right at the height of the most recent wave of pogroms happening in europe. It seems strange to frame revitalizing a forgotten tradition in that context as being foundationally imperialist. Even more when there has been over a century of cultural meaning transformation and drift into various Jewish communities? It's an assertion that just disregards the differences of contexts, which makes it kinda like shoddy history.
I have no real idea of any historical truth in the claim that it was reconstructed into cultural relevance, one essay doesn't really make that more than an assertion (and if there is one thing i do know about jews its that they argue about shit w eachother) but even if it was, does that make it meaningfully coextensive with what the specific branch of zionism that became a colonial project? Is asserting that they are the same not retrocausual collective punishment?
Also, coming in from left field on this one but, Speaking as (something roughly syncretic with being) a pagan, how does any specifically hellenic pagan going to go about critiquing any reconstructionist religious practice that may or may not have a basis in what could be debated as imperialism? Like, that is hellenic polytheisms entire reality. Hellenic culture was nothing but structurally imperial. The foundational flaw of all democracy is found in hellenic culture. There is a reason that, like many other pagan reconstructed traditions of imperial cultures, are in open contesting with ethnofascists who are also drawn to their mysteries. The modern hellenic (and others) polytheist/pagan community has done a great deal of trying to reclaim and reconstruct aspects if their worship without giving fascists breathing room, without upholding the exact political cultural origins. It would be just as absurd to assert that being a Hellenic pagan actually is secretly support for a slave based economy where the demos defines who is and is not worthy of consideration.
Reconstructionism is good. Reclaiming reconstructions is good actually. The existence of ethnofascism within said religions is precisely the terrain of struggle over who gets to claim what. The fact of such a struggle is, on an ethical level, an assertion of nothing at all, because it is ubiquitous.
@eris straight t4t is a normal het relationship except 9/10 times the guy has even less of an expectation of accountability and everyone takes his "oh my last ex was a crazy bitch" stories seriously for some goddess forsaken reason