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@phiofx that's a neat site. Looks like the source code is no longer offered?
"Alternatives to twitter" always exist, but what are they bringing is the main point. It's nice to see news sources, I think that's the most valid case for a 1:1 twitter, but it is inhibited past that by privacy issues, minimal adherence to network data ideas, and the fact its led by a few implementations/personalities, not any spec/reference implementations.

@phiofx the fedidb software list reminds me of the early days of BBS, there were many forks of a few systems, eventually networks emerged, but portable identity and data specs are the key point today.

@boris yes, the use of schema.org json-ld is basic, if ramshackle. That's, from what I've seen, the problem with the whole "suite." There aren't any good high level libraries, and the apps that exist are very opinionated and go in different standard stretching directions.
I hope to be proven wrong, but so far it is lacking in vital areas including general libraries/foundations, identity protection, terms of content re-use, and so on.
Do you see what I mean in my OP?

@boris hmmm I don't think that's precisely true. There is latent biss. I described my vision. What's yours?

Why does mastodon look like twitter? Why can't it look like a research platform (data view, annotation, repositories)? It just seems like a waste of people's time. I can't even be bothered to try to make this clear it's so asinine. Look I'm using twitter but it's open source

What is the big vision? What is it working toward? Or is just one cool feature to the next by the people who are inside the not very well defined protocols?

@aral stop buying oil then? target oil consumers? demand higher prices?
Coal is overwhelmingly more important to eliminate. Green energy requires a transition and there are unanswered questions. Global South finds something it can capitalize on, funds a transition plan, and is doing leading work on alternatives, but gets hit on the nose when they push back. Easy targets, it would require work to find the real culprits.

@Jennifer @aral they haven't exactly resisted changing, they have one of the largest solar farms in the world and lead in synthetic fuels, kicked off the redress fund when no one else would. People buying from them have eyes fully open. You could swap him out for any number of western leaders, blatant or not. I think it's a kind of hypocritical and unexamined racism, that the Global South knows all too well. Doing the dirty work, replete with f and a bombs, to keep the global order.

@evan @boris building because it really needs to be seamless. It could be a substantial open source collab suite, to me it would be perfect in 2023 to align with the fediverse. But I don't want to commit anyone until the team has had a chance to discuss it. maybe we could chat about it next week?

Are there any recommended guides to make a new collab suite application compatible with the fediverse universe? In particular the schemas and inbox/outbox approach. Reusable presentations or case studies would be super helpful. Thanks!

@evan @boris any ideas? I want to do a presentation next week about why we should be thinking about these standards for new projects inside government.

@evan oh fun there's me

@evan there are an infinite number of other possibilities and developments of those possibilities. Maybe, as a centre of strife on this world, an especially considerate space should be created.

@evan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtBN7mVO1T8

@dansup @pixelfed endless wandering with inevitable disappointment is not what generates network effects. The fediverse is not ready for anyone but the most committed. But maybe it will end up being a sort of useful gear in corporate systems, the way corporations use open source.