@Herbivore You don't believe there is value in having a term that distinguishes between the guy (it's always fragile men) who demands meat at every meal and someone who explicitly doesn't even want to eat meat every day?
If flexitarian is not okay for you I guess both are carnists, but what would you suggest we call the former (obligate animal torturer)?
@monk So, am I right that you somehow (if so please explain!) do not read the message "How to live without cheese" (<https://kolektiva.social/@Herbivore/114063828391167980>) as a funny/absurdist, non-confrontational, non-explicit (no blood, dead bodies, macerator) way of saying please just: #goVegan; it's trivially easy, even handling silly questions from carnivores is probably going to be harder.
Some people need bloody explicit images (Dominion), others need a philosophical argument (Animal Liberation), being told what's going on held responsible (The Best Speech You'll Ever Hear), or a role model (Natalie Portman), or a friend who goes vegan. Some may need humor and absurdity. The goal is the same, the message that's needed may differ?
Although it sounds interesting, esp. because I'm operating in the international scene and not so much nationally), Deventer is not around the corner; is there any specific reason for me to be there or for you to mention me (other than hoping for boosts?)
@monk thanks for playing and the options are pretty bad.
However, most #vegan's consider not using animal products to be a minimal moral baseline. You're not really doing anything "good" for the world, you merely stopped contributing to one atrocity.
There are two big differences with fighting human suffering, which many also consider to be very important: non-vegans are directly responsible/the cause of animal suffering three times a day. If they would just move their hand a proverbial meter to the left in the supermarket, or point to another menu item, no animal suffering is being paid for. So the responsibility is direct, stopping it is trivial, and (after the first two weeks) it takes no other effort. You still have just as much time as a non-vegan to work for other good causes. And it saves [lots of] money.
Helping to end human suffering is much more difficult. The causality chain is often much muddier. Yeah, cheap clothes could be avoided...if you have the money! But what about an iPhone? And how often do you buy such things? Most human suffering is not directly caused by something as trivial as a(n unhealthy!) taste choice or clinging to an arbitrary cultural habit.
Het doel is iedereen die de overstap wil maken een toegankelijke introductie te geven en dat vooral zelfstandig kan doen. De eerste mensen zijn afgelopen week gestart met het bekijken van de pagina's en hebben hun eerste installatie gedaan!
@Seitansbraten@monk@Herbivore Oh and also, in the improbable case that you don't get asked several times a day why it is that you're #vegan or how you do it (cheese), you just might be wearing the wrong t-shirt. #nvsino
Blacklisting #vegan and #goVegan should reduce my posts about veganism with maybe about 90%, but for someone who is not yet vegan and thus paying for the greatest atrocity in human history and the destruction of your planet, I would advice not to do so and rather watch Gary Yourofsky's Best Speech...".
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A functional democracy is impossible as long as there is non-free software.
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