Notices by Boris Mann (boris@cosocial.ca), page 3

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@stinerman I think this is what @evan is getting at with his poll :)

How does one distribute social web accounts to millions as an open standard?

Should this be in the same class as email?

And service providers may be a path to this.

Because right now, your phone operating system owns those accounts (AppleID and Google).

I'm having an extremely negative reaction in thinking about Canada's mobile providers in this context :)

I don't think mobile providers provide email addresses today? Not in Canada at least.

But fixed line internet providers do. Which is kind of wacky when you think about it.

@evan has a poll on whether mobile phone companies should provide fediverse accounts https://cosocial.ca/@evan/111607888546585241

It’s been great to have @alinemonjardim be open to this extremely open and consensus based process applied to #CoSocialLogoDesign, with feedback across many spaces — including anyone on the Fediverse, not just co-op members!

She has delivered some tweaks and professional advice in the members portal, and we’ll finalize end of day today https://members.cosocial.ca/t/cosocial-logo-design/196/33

Some more thoughts on process in thread

Another learning for me is: form a working group / get a small number of 2-3+ people committed to supporting the process.

We’re still booting up members getting involved and volunteering, and this came together quickly.

The fact that we can look back at the #CoSocialLogoDesign hashtag and see a bunch of feedback is great.

The member portal is longer form and we also onboarded some more members there. That “smaller” and verified members only is important.

I helped facilitate the process of engaging members with communications from Aline and feedback.

I had a discussion with Aline about “voting being democratic” vs have people’s voices being hard.

Especially since we can’t restrict polls to members only!

I would not do Mastodon poll voting: get feedback from people!

Also: we only had one “live” meeting with Aline. We should have had multiple live sessions with member to member discussion.

Aside: conversations around Threads are heating up again, and we have #CoSocialMeta capturing discussions that we had.

And on the blog the board made a decision back in July https://blog.cosocial.ca/blog/cosocial-board-decision-on-threads/

In protocol ActivityPub discussions with a “simple” method like a hashtag is pretty great.

Process wise, I’d like to see if we can onboard people joining #CoSocialCa in a way that gets them to turn on notifications for new posts from @coop

Tech & tooling wise, I think we can use the Members portal (Discourse forum) to do email updates (to bring people back into conversation) AND turn on ActivityPub cross posting (to interleave with Mastodon based convos).

Ok this became super long ;)

Thanks again to @alinemonjardim. I was excited to work with her the moment I saw her portfolio https://www.alinecreative.ca/

I’m excited about moving forward in the #CoSocialCa canoe with all members in 2024. 🛶🍁🎉

#CoSocialLogoDesign

@jaz@mastodon.iftas.org @ricmac @jaz@toot.wales @tchambers @photomatt yup, agreed with Jaz.

Much like how authors have had control over “full or partial feeds” in RSS, I’d say choose the Note type (partial, this is what represents default microblogging today) or the Article type for the full article.

Also: I push to my main account because I can’t reply as my blog account easily.

The earth is too small to eat alone: https://blog.bmannconsulting.com/2023/12/09/the-earth-is.html

@ntnsndr Fly/Render/Railway as PaaS platforms that tend to be fastest from code -> running service.

If you package it up as a Docker image you could make it Cloudron custom app compatible ;)

I haven’t forgotten about the Cloudron survey BTW! Using a Cloudron hosted Airtable clone NocoDB to build the survey form 😅

@ntnsndr @cloudron I am having this discussion with my friends at CanTrust Hosting Co-Op https://cantrusthosting.coop/

They are focused on an all Debian environment & small number of apps as they are a small team. But I might convince them to let me run an experiment.

I’ll DM you when I have a form up to gather interest.

And Cloudron folks I’ll ping you too!

Foss Video https://foss.video/about/instance is a #PeerTube instance for videos related to #opensource proejcts.

Created by @danb from the Bookstack project https://danb.me/blog/foss-video/

@evan @jenn or “Blame Canada”!

@jenn anything that isn’t mass produced and shipped in from overseas.

Also totally depends on volume.

I have my eye on a wholesale white label maple syrup provider.

(I like socks. I haven’t ever seen, like, sustainable or “locally made socks)

Ok, so when apps check a link, we’d like to show it in app, making it consistent UI, and easy to favourite/boost/bookmark/follow ActivityPub actions (there are more!)

While we’re at it, we parse OpenGraph and/or Twitter preview info and grab preview text, images, maybe even embed a video or audio player.

Maybe that’s one way we can make things better?

Lean into some of those web preview standards and make … all links more awesome when browsed through ActivityPub clients.

@feditips

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Testing how links to posts from different flavours of ActivityPub servers work in mobile apps with @feditips

The “good” experience is that apps check to see if the link is an AP post, and slides it open in app if it is.

When it opens in app, users can favourite / boost / reply, visit the user profile and follow, all very seamlessly.

This is the default, great experience for those like me that are native mobile app primary for their Fediverse usage.

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So you’ve got a link to what you think is an ActivityPub enabled item - either a post or a profile.

You can paste this link into your search interface*.

Ivory is bad at this, Mastodon, Ice Cubes, Toot! are good at detecting this, letting you find and follow Lemmy, PeerTube, MicroDotBlog, probably WordPress in the future.

Mastodon native app is good at search…BUT pretty much opens everything in browser 🤦♂️🤷♂️

*This “paste into search” is the expert flow on web front ends

@feditips

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The bad experience (and the default in a browser interface), is your app can’t tell that a link is an ActivityPub post or profile, it opens in a browser window in app or in your mobile system browser, and…

You’re not logged in, so can’t interact with the post.

And you’re faced with a completely different UI than browsing in your app.

You might be able to use search to interact with it (see next thread post)

@feditips

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