Notices by Thorsten Leemhuis (acct. 1/4) (kernellogger@fosstodon.org), page 3

@ljs @kees @vbabka

> I think the issue is that more people need to test against -next.

Avoiding "this might eat my data" fears for the testers is very important detail here to realize that – having patches in there that come from a "unstable" branch is enough to scare people away when it comes to mm or filesystems.

So chancing that name might already help.

@vbabka @kees @ljs

yeah, sounds like it; and bots could even process that mm-experimental branch, like they do for quite a few other subsystem trees not included in -next.

@Suiseiseki

I don't think GNU/Linux et. al. make much sense, as these things change; but I think */Linux_(kernel), */Linux_(operating system) (which then refers for */Linux_(Distributions)[1], */Android, */ChromeOS, …) would make a whole lot of sense.

[1] for Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu. et. al. – I don't like that name much, but I'm optimistic something better could be found with some head scratching…

@Suiseiseki

you and I might not like it, but for a lot of people Linux is not a kernel, but a operating system.

Not a problem per se, but I hope that at least wikipedia one day will learn this and make
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux a landing page that leads to two different pages (one for the OS, one for the kernel).

@ptesarik @Aissen @mpe

> Thorsten, we're all hanging on your lips, ready to make patches like crazy!

Be careful what you say, otherwise I might follow your advice. 😬 🙃

I was tempted a few hours ago -- but quickly decided submitting a rough patch myself is the way better approach. 😄

See https://lore.kernel.org/all/42aa307d7ffae1851b4a8787f5c276dd0b3beece.1728543368.git.linux@leemhuis.info/ or https://fosstodon.org/@kernellogger/113281883813298472 for details.

Seems I need to be more careful what I write here, as it seems one of my sneaky remarks lead to a #Linux #Kernel patch. 😂

powerpc/boot: Remove bogus reference to #lilo – https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241009053806.135807-1-mpe@ellerman.id.au/

From @mpe – and according to the Link tag triggered by https://fosstodon.org/@kernellogger/113032940928131612 (see Screenshot)

#LinuxKernel

The #Linux 6.12 pull request for #PREEMPT_RT is handed to Linus. Likely the first PR ever submitted in printed form. #kernel #LinuxKernel #Realtime

@ljs @lkundrak

😂

Coke: yeah; might even drink a glass/cup or two per year at a party or the cinema

Club mate: maybe two or three times.

I grew up on sugared drinks and decided that those where round about enough for one lifetime…

/me fears this answer will make matters worse 😬

@ljs @lkundrak

from the "make matters worse department"😂:

I grew up an area where they drink a lot of tea and stuck to it; I drink maybe one coffee every two month.

https://www.unesco.de/en/east-frisian-tea-culture

There is something worse, but I'll tell you next week in person. 😬

2/ Side note:

* the list of TAB members on on https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/leadership is out of date afaics.

* Where is the current landing page that lists what the TAB actually does? https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/tab/start seems old, but might be it.

Is there anything you would like to ask the #Linux Foundation's TAB (Technical Advisory Board)?

Then come to the "ask us anything" session with the current TAB at the @linuxplumbersconf 2024, which is currently scheduled for 9:00 on Friday, September 20[1].

And if you can't be there, just tell me your questions: I'll try to bring a few of them forward if I get a chance.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/87zforv3zc.fsf@trenco.lwn.net/

#kernel #LinuxKernel #LinuxPlumbers #LinuxPlumbers2024

@ljs

never heard of it, not sure if that was ever sold in Germany; but even if it was, I most likely would not be aware of it, because I'm boring and avoid drinks like that most of the time…

#Linux #kernel patches to allow enabling #PREEMPT_RT (aka proper #realtime support) for x86, ARM64, and Risc-V were posted for review:

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240906111841.562402-1-bigeasy@linutronix.de/

"The printk bits required for PREEMPT_RT are sitting in linux-next. This was the last known roadblock for PREEMPT_RT. The RT queue has additionally the "atomic console" for the 8250 UART which is not yet in linux-next.[…]"

See also these earlier other related toots:

https://fosstodon.org/@kernellogger/113084762433941141
https://fosstodon.org/@kernellogger/113085326251565367

Support for QR code #kernel panic screens[1] is now in #Linux-next[2] and thus slated for inclusion in #LinuxKernel 6.12. 🥳

Note, the QR encoder requires #Rust / #Rustlang support to be enabled when building the kernel, as it is written in Rust (see [2]).

[1] for details, see this patch series: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240822073852.562286-1-jfalempe@redhat.com/

[2] see among others https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git/commit/?id=cb5164ac43d0fc37ac6b45cabbc4d244068289ef

2/ Linus in a reply to the #Linux 6.11-rc5 announcement

"'Oh, and I forgot to mention that there's something special about this Sunday: today, Aug 25th, is the 33th anniversary of the original public mention of Linux […]

and while 33 years may not sound like a particularly round number, the "brewing since April" means that it was actually 33 and 1/3 years ago that it all started.

A third of a century. And it *still* isn't ready. I really need to get my sh*t together.."'

#kernel #LinuxKernel

#Linux 6.11-rc5 is out: about half a day earlier than usual because Linus is travelling.

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wh599movdAyCHfVmYakq8rqKQD9wCvUAgBqbF3znEu_2g@mail.gmail.com/

"'Other than the timing, there's not a whole lot unusual here. […]

So please do go forth and test, it all looks safe,

Linus "famous last words" Torvalds'"

#kernel #LinuxKernel

Note to self: do not buy any #HP #Omen any time soon for #Linux use:

"[…] I *DO* have to warn you that fan control for both the GPU and the CPU is done solely and passively by the embedded controller, and not the #kernel -- and that is problematic.

On my laptop (8BAD), it is pretty clear that the provided/passive fan curve table is broken. The fans run slower than what they should be, which results in potential overheating UNLESS […]"

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219125#c1 #LinuxKernel #Laptop

#Linux #kernel and #XFS developer Darrick Wong writes:

"'XFS now has self healing capabilities! In the near future, that will become autonomous self healing capabilities.

Online repair will be fully merged in Linux 6.10 and xfsprogs 6.10, which means that the kernel can rebuild all space management and directory tree metadata while the filesystem continues to run. The ability to detect and correct inconsistencies […']"

https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/xfs-online-filesystem-repair #LinuxKernel

Jeremy Allison writes:

'" The data shows that “frozen” vendor #Linux kernels, created by branching off a release point and then using a team of engineers to select specific patches to back-port to that branch, are buggier than the upstream “stable” Linux #kernel created by Greg Kroah-Hartman. '"

https://ciq.com/blog/why-a-frozen-linux-kernel-isnt-the-safest-choice-for-security/ #LinuxKernel

The Kernel Report - Jonathan Corbet (@corbet), @LWN

The recording of this recent talk is now available on the #ossna2024 schedule page: https://ossna2024.sched.com/event/1aBNs/the-kernel-report-jonathan-corbet-lwnnet

Slides can be found here: https://static.lwn.net/talks/2024/kr-ossna.pdf

Direct link to the recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAqjl_x4hZc

#Linux #kernel #LinuxKernel