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   Thorsten Leemhuis (acct. 1/4) (kernellogger@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 02:42:20 JST Thorsten Leemhuis (acct. 1/4)

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   The Kernel Report - Jonathan Corbet (@corbet), @LWN

   The recording of this recent talk is now available on the #ossna2024 schedule page: https://ossna2024.sched.com/event/1aBNs/the-kernel-report-jonathan-corbet-lwnnet

   Slides can be found here: https://static.lwn.net/talks/2024/kr-ossna.pdf

   Direct link to the recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAqjl_x4hZc

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     Greg K-H (gregkh@social.kernel.org)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 02:42:16 JST Greg K-H

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     • Vegard Nossum 🥑
     • K. Ryabitsev ????
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     @vegard @monsieuricon @kees @kernellogger @corbet The FAQ says the situation, I don't know why people are confused, nothing has changed in a while.
     
     You aren't alone, Linaro had a whole "webinar" about how the world is in trouble now that LTS releases are only 2 years, despite my objections directly to them that "this is not the case".
     
     Oh well, what do I know...
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     Vegard Nossum 🥑 (vegard@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 02:42:17 JST Vegard Nossum 🥑

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     • Greg K-H
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     @monsieuricon @kees @kernellogger @corbet @gregkh Thanks for the clarifications -- I guess there is a subtle (but significant) difference between "they're going to drop that back to just two years of support for the long-term stable releases" (literal quote) vs. "we start out at 2 and extend as needed" (paraphrased FAQ + parent toot).

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     Kees Cook :tux: (kees@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 02:42:18 JST Kees Cook :tux:

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     • Vegard Nossum 🥑
     • Greg K-H
     • Jonathan Corbet

     @vegard @corbet @kernellogger @gregkh i.e. LTS are supported for 4 years now, not 2.

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     Greg K-H (gregkh@social.kernel.org)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 02:42:18 JST Greg K-H

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     @kees @vegard @corbet @kernellogger They are? news to me :)
     
     We start out at 2, and then after a year see what companies need/want/desire and are willing to work for having a longer period. Right now 2 years is rough, so we're doing longer.
     
     Ideally I'd love to only do 2 years, maybe next year? Or it not, the year after that? I'm not going anywhere, we'll get there eventually as people learn that attempting to keep a fixed release on top of a highly moving project with thousands of fixes a month, is not a good idea for a variety of reasons...
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     K. Ryabitsev ???? (monsieuricon@social.kernel.org)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 02:42:18 JST K. Ryabitsev ????

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     • Vegard Nossum 🥑
     • Greg K-H
     • Kees Cook :tux:
     • Jonathan Corbet
     @gregkh @kees @corbet @kernellogger @vegard Literally an FAQ entry. ;)
     
     https://www.kernel.org/releases.html#why-are-some-longterm-versions-supported-longer-than-others
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     Jonathan Corbet (corbet@social.kernel.org)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 02:42:19 JST Jonathan Corbet

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     • Vegard Nossum 🥑
     • Greg K-H
     @vegard @kernellogger @gregkh Which "misconception" are you speaking of here?
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     Vegard Nossum 🥑 (vegard@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 02:42:19 JST Vegard Nossum 🥑

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     @corbet @kernellogger @gregkh https://mastodon.social/@gregkh@social.kernel.org/111415774008482555

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     Vegard Nossum 🥑 (vegard@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 02:42:20 JST Vegard Nossum 🥑

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     @kernellogger @corbet @gregkh In this talk, Jon repeats the line that future LTS stable kernels will only be maintained for 2 years -- is that current or just a remnant of the misconception from last year?

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