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@eva_chaos @benroyce @humanhorseshoes @mattdm @n_dimension @Gorfram @Mikal

Most importantly, Germany in some shape of form already existed before the nazis. There were "normal" Germany, not perfect, but "normal". There never were "normal" russia. That's what I think is the biggest challenge - they will have to reinvent their state from scratch, and they don't even understand it as a problem. But this can change too. I see some positive hints as "national minorities" start to speak up.