@AmonMaritza @bobbala @BattleDwarfGimli @Snidely_Whiplash @WilhelmIII @s2208 @Aly @EdBoatConnoisseur @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Largo @brokenshakles @dogslurp @epictittus I am probably going to regret tapping in here, but it feels like we're missing in this thread the difference between venial vs. mortal sins, and the need in either case to fully repent of your sins and ask for God's forgiveness before your salvation can be restored.

catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/mortal-and-venial-sin

Here is the Catechism of the Catholic Church on the difference between the two:

[1855] Mortal Sin destroys charity in the heart of man by a grave violation of God’s law; it turns man away from God… by preferring an inferior good to him. Venial sin allows charity to subsist, though it offends and wounds it.

[1861] Mortal sin… results in… the privation of sanctifying grace, that is, of the state of grace. If it is not redeemed by repentance and God’s forgiveness, it causes exclusion from Christ’s kingdom and the eternal death of hell…

[1862] One commits venial sin when, in a less serious matter, he does not observe the standard prescribed by the moral law, or when he disobeys the moral law in a grave matter, but without full knowledge or complete consent.

[1863] Venial sin weakens charity… and… merits temporal punishment. Deliberate and unrepented venial sin disposes us little by little to commit mortal sin. However, venial sin does not break the covenant with God. With God’s grace, it is humanly reparable. “Venial sin does not deprive the sinner of sanctifying grace, friendship with God, charity, and consequently, eternal happiness.”

tl;dr: Venial sins you can go to confession for, and you'll be fine as long as you sincerely repent.

Mortal sins are up to God to judge, even if you sincerely repent.

Just from me skimming this thread, it looks as though we are conflating the (correct) idea that our salvation through Christ is our birthright with the idea we can just do whatever want and still be saved. This is not the case. The salvation is our birthright, but we must repent of our venial sins and not commit mortal sins.

Anyway. I didn't see these concepts being brought up so I figured I'd introduce them. Carry on. I won't bitch about being kept in the thread or receiving counterarguments. I tapped in, after all.