@sun@shitposter.world When are you gonna stop being such a reddit tech bro? 3d printersYeah sure you can easily make muh plastic knicknacks with them which is a fun toy, but other than that modern cheap 3D printers work exactly same as any of the CnC machine used in woodworking and metalworking since the 50s. It's nothing new or special. dronesLiteral toys. Drones don't solve any problems. People either you fly around with them for fun to make pretty pictures or they attach bombs to them on the Ukrainian front. self-hosted AII assume with that you mean LLMs, which be nice to have, they have some potential to be useful, but it is usually very inefficient at its tasks and hilariously inaccurate. Definitely not life changing. Most overhyped technology today.
@sun@shitposter.world How so? Last time I checked all three of these are still by the shitty companies, so it doesn't reduce your reliance on them at all.
Who sells 3D printers? Shitty companies Who sells drones? Shitty companies Who makes AI models? Shitty companies
@sun@shitposter.world How so? Every article or essay written using an LLM is super obvious slop and reads like garbage. Nobody has ever written a piece of software of using an LLM that is actually maintainable. And then I'm not even talking about factual accuracy.
@sun@shitposter.world Don't get me wrong. The fact that LLMs can generate code that actually runs (some of the time) is still impressive. But this whole oversold hysteria about "LLMs are so smart they will destroy every system's security" is just completely wrong lol
@sun@shitposter.world Just to re-iterate I am not against using LLMs. I just don't find them as groundbreaking as the current trend makes them out to be.
Feel free to use LLMs, I am not against that by definition. I will still bother people for using proprietary things though because that's my whole thing.
But at the very least I want people who publish things with LLMs to be honest and state that the project that is made using an LLM.
Many people try to push their slop projects and say they wrote it and that kind of pisses me off.
@SuperDicq I think I decided I'm not gonna argue with you about it, I am just going to keep using it successfully for my itch-scratching projects. Not trying to put you down or implying anything, I am just sufficiently satisfied it's useful that I don't want to re-litigate it constantly
@SuperDicq@sun >It's nothing new or special. Having it inside your own house/workshop is easier tho. Plus having the electronics/software being RYF is something exceptionally positive as you don't have to be dependent on the logistical chain to work with it. And you can create your own logistical chain locally for work.
>Drones don't solve any problems You lack imagination, it solves, enhance problem solving issues. In places where you needed to climb and put potential human like in danger to just observe/check you don't have to do so. And like I said in another thread in places where you need to do counter intelligence, be it listen or disrupt communications it's ideal. It's even effective against cameras, put a lightweight totally legal laser bought from china (see what styro pyro shows on the subject) and send the drone to burn the camera sensors faster than a man needed to climb a ladder.
@SuperDicq@sun >to publish resistance documents specifically. >ANY TYPE of information more efficiently than ever before. Aka disseminating information. And getting that info is also someone who collects it. It's just another format of distribution. To come back to drones, collecting info yourself with those is, can be another way to have an information and disseminate it.
@mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world@sun@shitposter.world In those fields it often doesn't allow us to do things we weren't already able to do before. And if doing it using drones is actually more efficient can also be debated sometimes.
@SuperDicq@sun >that will have the same life changing impact on most of our daily lives like the printing press had. Oh I agree, it cannot have the same impact.
>Drones can solve only niche and self created problems. I disagree, it's not niche and has usage in a lot of workfields like I said I think you lack imagination, it can be used in landscaping, house maintenance/building, farming, industrial maintenance application etc... There are true legitimate usages of those in commercial, research and private usage.
I would like to see more people actively try to break this cycle and actually started using violence as a desperate last resort of self defense and not as "preventative measures" or threats.
@SuperDicq@sun >I think you are barbaric. Some people do not want to talk at all. What do you do when you cannot establish a mean to negotiate ? Let yourself get slaughtered ? Become soylent green ? It's not barbaric to oppose barbarism.
@SuperDicq@sun >as an excuse to commit violence on one another. I'm very well aware of that issue and I agree. At some point you just cannot compromise either.
>and not as "preventative measures" or threats. Self defense is obvious when it's physical attacks but what do we do when it indirects attacks ? psychological attacks ? indirect psychological attacks ? NVC is a good was to mitigate against those. But our opponents have proven more than once that they will use any method and have no morals to achieve their goals. There's little to negotiate with them, the OSI tried to do that and look where it lead them. The FSF tried to do their own thing on their own side in their own space and even then the opponents tried to destroy them with psychological attacks and more.
And that aside lets not forget the opponents are willingly giving information regularly to suppress/kill opposition of various government in the world be they legitimate or not. There's already enough piles of proof that people can morally use whatever means is necessary as long as it's done in an intelligent way that doesn't cost human life.
That usage aside, people having the freedom to do whatever they want with their computers in their drones, 3D printer or GPUs is the main goal in any usage.
@mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world@sun@shitposter.world The FSF tried to do their own thing on their own side in their own space and even then the opponents tried to destroy them with psychological attacks and more.And they didn't need violence to defend themselves and they still exist.
That is a naive way to view the world when my people are only 7% of the global population and the other 93% seems content in making us 0% by direct action or inaction.
@SuperDicq@sun you can 3d print positives to use in metal casting. you can print specialized tools. i long thought that 3d printing is bullshit, most projects are, but there are some very valid uses.
drones are going to be banned for normal people, all while the military industrial complex is going to build autonomous drones which lock to your IMSI or something. without any control whatsoever.
i think llms are bullshit, but i would support if people had self trained ones to run themselves.
@SK1ZM@SuperDicq@sun No it's not naive imo, it's the proper way to go but one also has to realize that when you're confronted to people who want you dead and you cannot change their mind then you cannot let yourself be killed either and thus have to change tactics. Especially in this case where the methods used are indirect. It's hard for our monke brains to perceive what is happening to be actual attacks on our collective psyche.
Outside of GNU/Jihad memes, I do not actually want to commit violence against proprietary software companies. I don't think the people that work there deserve death or punishment.
My ideal solution to the proprietary software problem would be to make selling proprietary software illegal. It should mostly be consumer rights law where all software sold should come with its source code under a free license.
@SuperDicq@sun >And they didn't need violence to defend themselves and they still exist. Of course. I'm glad they still exist, even tho they lost most of their funds that boomed a few years prior to that.
And I'm not saying they should do so, I'm saying individuals should do that themselves on their own because that is what people did against the FSF after the proprietary social media algos rallied enough people to harass them and make them loose credibility and finances.
When you think about it what twitter facebook etc.. do when their psyop people into a specific target it's similar to guerrila warfare but psychological. People act on their own or in small groups to harm a target.
@mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world@sun@shitposter.world I am fully aware of the many problems that proprietary social media recommendation algorithms create. This is again not a problem that should be fixed with violence.
@mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world@sun@shitposter.world I think with the way things are going it is often better as a free software project to do nothing and simply wait for the proprietary version of the thing you are doing to shoot themselves in the foot.
@SuperDicq@sun >his is again not a problem that should be fixed with violence. I'm not considering that to be a definitive solution but a way to demonstrate the consequences of relying on these entities. If I nuke/disrupt several discord server, physically, what's the difference to the end user if they don't know ? All they know is that discord isn't working and that is discord's problem. If it doesn't come back then they'll try to find another solution. It's similar to what happened when discord announced the mandatory ID check. Suddenly some free/libre software project go more manpower, some work way better since then (like jami for example).
@jeff@mk.magicka.org@Oughtism@shin.mugicha.club Because maybe in the year 2077 I can upload my consciousness to the decentralized GNU/Metaverse and maybe I'll try out a female avatar for funsies or something then who knows
if you want to make the most out of a 3d printer then you need to have a filament AND a resin printer along a cnc router and lathe, that way you can cover the 3 materials: woods, metals and plastics.
@sun the problem with self hosted ai is that you (for now?) are bound to use some black box model trained by $MEGACORP or china.
3d printers should be do-able, aren't there some with open design docs?
drones largely follow from 3d printers imo, the remaining parts are off the shelf items and microcontrollers, not sure how those are realistically banned.
if i would have to add to this list, some means of long range digital communication is required. starlink isn't going to save us.