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    Flick ?? (flick@spinster.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Dec-2025 23:10:35 JST Flick ?? Flick ??

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2025/12/15/female-genital-mutilation-is-abuse-progressive-racist/

    Co-authored by researchers from 25 global institutions, the JME paper argues that condemning this abuse of children is simply based on “misleading, often racialised stereotypes” and “Western sensationalism”. Rather than the terrible act itself, the paper argues that the “derision” FGM receives from the West – particularly the idea that it occurs because of “a kind of brainwashing” – is what is actually “traumatic”. […]

    The refusal to label FGM clearly is not benign. It rests on a deeply regressive assumption that when violence happens to black and minority girls, the usual standards of safeguarding can be suspended. Their pain must be contextualised, diluted, or endlessly debated in ways we would never tolerate if the victims were white British girls.

    This is not progressive. It is racist.

    https://archive.ph/bAJLu

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      RadicalCartoons (radicalcartoons@spinster.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Dec-2025 23:10:34 JST RadicalCartoons RadicalCartoons
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      @Flick I met Nimco in Bristol, way back, when she was involved with Bristol Integrate, an anti-FGM charity run by teenagers of all races, in a Bristol Academy school. (It's now a national charity).
      She was then ostracized by the lefties in the Labour party/city council, who thought the Somali community was their own personal fiefdom. They couldn't stand it when she became an adviser to the Tory government on FGM.
      They hated her even more when she was awarded an OBE in 2019.

      Her book "What we're told not to talk about" is a collection of stories from fgm survivors. Well worth adding to your Christmas List.
      What We’re Told Not to Talk About (But We’re Going to Anyway): Women’s Voices from East London to Ethiopia : Ali, Nimko: Amazon.co.uk: Books https://share.google/kG6v0DkFbpE1QkIr8
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      HebrideanHecate (hebrideanhecate@spinster.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Dec-2025 23:11:06 JST HebrideanHecate HebrideanHecate
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      @RadicalCartoons @Flick These people are bastards, absolute fucking wanking scum bastards.

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      The Dread Slender Gnome (gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Dec-2025 23:13:40 JST The Dread Slender Gnome The Dread Slender Gnome
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      @Flick Next up:

      Suttee and foot-binding. Should never have been abolished, because to do so was western sensationalism. Or internalised western sensationalism.

      It's not like the widow being burned alive actually suffers any trauma from the act itself.

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      Matron of the ninth circle (grumpyoldnurse@spinster.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Dec-2025 23:15:10 JST Matron of the ninth circle Matron of the ninth circle
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      @Flick TL DR; what they do to their women is none of our business.
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      Feart n Tired ??????? (feartntired@spinster.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Dec-2025 23:15:10 JST Feart n Tired ??????? Feart n Tired ???????
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      • Matron of the ninth circle
      @GrumpyOldNurse @Flick well it is. I'm totally helpless, but it is my business. Can't even make a dent in issues that affect the women here that are my category. But I can't not care. How do people manage to compartmentalise to that extent. Does not compute.
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      Matron of the ninth circle (grumpyoldnurse@spinster.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Dec-2025 23:15:10 JST Matron of the ninth circle Matron of the ninth circle
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      • Feart n Tired ???????
      @FeartnTired @Flick Exactly.

      I just think the authors of this idiocy aren't even aware that their calls to 'contextualize' FGM show their underlying misogyny.
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      KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Dec-2025 23:15:36 JST KeepTakingTheSoma KeepTakingTheSoma
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      • The Dread Slender Gnome
      @Gnomeshatecheese @Flick The progressive left has always been a men's club to denigrate women with impunity, and women who want to belong to the progressive left have to play along or the men call them far right.
      Them's the rules.
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      KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Dec-2025 23:17:55 JST KeepTakingTheSoma KeepTakingTheSoma
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      • Feart n Tired ???????
      • Matron of the ninth circle
      @GrumpyOldNurse @FeartnTired @Flick Using the word *contextualise* means
      because mumble mumble reasons reasons
      or
      it's ok when our team does it.
      It's a great way to excuse shitty behaviour.
      See also *gender affirming care*
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      astarsscreams (astarsscreams@spinster.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Dec-2025 23:38:21 JST astarsscreams astarsscreams
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      • Feart n Tired ???????
      • Matron of the ninth circle
      • KeepTakingTheSoma
      @KeepTakingTheSoma @GrumpyOldNurse @FeartnTired @Flick If we have to ‘contextualize’ horrors to excuse them, it’s just because the argument is morally bankrupt.
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      KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Dec-2025 23:38:30 JST KeepTakingTheSoma KeepTakingTheSoma
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      • Matron of the ninth circle
      • astarsscreams
      @astarsscreams @GrumpyOldNurse @FeartnTired @Flick Exactly.
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      astarsscreams (astarsscreams@spinster.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Dec-2025 23:40:40 JST astarsscreams astarsscreams
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      • Matron of the ninth circle
      @GrumpyOldNurse @Flick I absolutely hate this fucking take. We’re seeing it in the U.S. too. We also see ‘well baby boys are circumcised here and no one cares/isn’t that bad’ as an argument. 😒 I don’t think we should be routinely cutting anyone’s genitals. And FGM is a fucking horror.
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      KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Dec-2025 23:40:40 JST KeepTakingTheSoma KeepTakingTheSoma
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      • astarsscreams
      @astarsscreams @GrumpyOldNurse @Flick Christopher Hitchens spoke about this. Religion makes people do terrible things.
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      HebrideanHecate (hebrideanhecate@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 18-Dec-2025 01:27:57 JST HebrideanHecate HebrideanHecate
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      • Matron of the ninth circle

      @GrumpyOldNurse @Flick https://www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/medical-journals-attempt-to-minimise-abhorrent-fgm-is-shameful-x62j7j9qd

      Medical journal’s attempt to minimise abhorrent FGM is shameful Authors claim criticism of the practice is not about its impact on women and girls but to do with the stigmatisation of migrant communities

      The term female genital mutilation (FGM) needs little elaboration. It results in serious bleeding, severe pain and long-term health issues. It is an abuse of basic human rights that has scarred the lives of more than 230 million women and girls around the world.

      Yet the authors of an article published by the British Medical Journal Group — responsible for the bible of the medical profession — make the risible claim that criticism of FGM is not about its impact on women and girls but to do with “western sensationalism” and the stigmatisation of migrant communities. The academics want the term FGM replaced with the phrase “female genital practices” to “account for cultural complexity”.

      Let’s not mince words. Cultural complexity (whatever that means) is not the main issue here. There is no justification for this dangerous and abhorrent practice, which has no medical basis. FGM is an act of female mutilation, plain and simple. Any attempt to replace the word “mutilation” with some committee-approved euphemism is an insult to the millions of female victims. The academic claptrap doesn’t end there. The 25 co-authors, including academics from the University of Cambridge, the University of Bristol and Brighton and Sussex Medical School, have the nerve to dismiss legislation against FGM (won after a hard-fought campaign) as a “tool of exclusion”. They claim the measures have “resulted in the marginalisation of migrant communities”. Really? The authors need to spend more time in the real world. For too long, in Britain and elsewhere, FGM has been defended as a cultural issue. This will not do. The issue is violence against women and abuse of children. That is why some of the most high-profile and effective women campaigners against FGM are from these so-called marginalised communities.

      FGM has been outlawed in the UK since 1985. The Home Office only began to collect data on a mandatory basis in 2019. Since then there have been 350 FGM offences recorded by the police — yet only three successful prosecutions. This issue cannot be left to the criminal justice system alone. There must be a focus on education and healthcare. More broadly, shame on the BMJ Group for publishing such academic drivel. Too many girls and women have suffered irreversible harm because of FGM. It adds insult to injury that the pages of a prestigious scientific and medical journal should be used to defend the indefensible.

      https://archive.ph/GRB0d

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      KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 18-Dec-2025 01:37:53 JST KeepTakingTheSoma KeepTakingTheSoma
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      • HebrideanHecate
      • Matron of the ninth circle
      @HebrideanHecate @GrumpyOldNurse @Flick If women belonged to a religious cult that insisted that men who write for medical journals were ritually castrated in public with rusty knives, we could claim that any complaints or protestations from them were simply the result of a failure by them to respect our cultural needs and a desire to denigrate the deeply held beliefs of our marginalised community.
      The stage has already been built. Shall we all dance upon it?
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      HebrideanHecate (hebrideanhecate@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 18-Dec-2025 07:48:32 JST HebrideanHecate HebrideanHecate
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      • Matron of the ninth circle
      • KeepTakingTheSoma

      @KeepTakingTheSoma @GrumpyOldNurse @Flick Unfortunately, a lot of these names appear to be female.

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      EatKnitSleep2 (eatknitsleep2@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 18-Dec-2025 07:53:48 JST EatKnitSleep2 EatKnitSleep2
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      • Matron of the ninth circle
      • KeepTakingTheSoma
      @HebrideanHecate @KeepTakingTheSoma @GrumpyOldNurse @Flick Then maybe they can get some FGM themselves. To demonstrate how it only hurts and fucks up your health if you are viewing it from an intolerant western perspective.
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      astarsscreams (astarsscreams@spinster.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 18-Dec-2025 10:14:49 JST astarsscreams astarsscreams
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      • KeepTakingTheSoma
      @KeepTakingTheSoma @GrumpyOldNurse @Flick He wasn’t wrong.
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