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   Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 22:04:58 JST Evan Prodromou

   If you have the financial and technical ability to do so, it's probably a good time to set up a Mastodon server.

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     Mateus (mateus@tech.lgbt)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 22:17:04 JST Mateus

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     @evan I have both, but I don't see the benefit of doing that, versus staying on (and supporting) the instance I'm already on. Can you please elaborate?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 22:17:04 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Mateus

     @mateus Sure.

     Things are looking very bad at Twitter, which means that its hundreds of millions of users are going to be seeking Mastodon accounts soon.

     I don't think the current set of servers is enough to host them all.

     So, if you want to help a lot of people stay connected, one way to do it is to set up a Mastodon server.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 22:17:21 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Mateus

     @mateus The benefit is almost entirely altruistic.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 22:19:45 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • mcg

     @mcg I think for shared. A lot more people are coming, and I don't think there's capacity to handle them.

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     mcg (mcg@social.lol)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 22:19:46 JST mcg

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     @evan You thinking for personal usage here or shared?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 22:20:40 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Brett Peary

     @brettpeary On Digital Ocean, I think I'm paying like CAD$25/mon maybe?

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     Brett Peary (brettpeary@mastodon.design)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 22:20:41 JST Brett Peary

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     @evan how much does it run one?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 22:21:49 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • AusMMT

     @AusMMT That's why it's in the condition

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     AusMMT (ausmmt@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 18-Nov-2022 22:21:52 JST AusMMT

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     @evan the finance is the trouble

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     Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 00:22:29 JST Nemo_bis 🌈

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     • Јане :verified:

     @jan @evan Some #SocialCoop advice may help: https://cloud.medlab.host/s/JKfLGa5zxPqoT9r

     Let's add more at https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediparty/wiki/Collectively-owned-instances (also about budgeting). #MastoAdmin

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     Јане :verified: (jan@webperf.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 00:22:30 JST Јане :verified:

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     @evan I'm doing it. Not sure about the financial ability though ?

     Evan Prodromou repeated this.
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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 00:58:31 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Mac

     @macst3r thanks, good point!

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     Mac (macst3r@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 00:58:37 JST Mac

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     @evan And you need probably time for moderating the instance and/or a few people helping with that.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 01:25:09 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Andy C

     @andyc omg it's the avatar

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     Andy C (andyc@pleroma.stream)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 01:25:11 JST Andy C

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     @evan 'Captain. Report from the bridge, Sir. My single user, $6/month Pleroma instance is braced and ready for this next Tsunami. Prepare to man the lifeboats; English fottbal fans, identica die hards, women and children first '.
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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 02:17:09 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Jens Glad Balchen

     @selulven because news out of Twitter is really troubling. If you want to help people who are going to be migrating en masse over the next few days or weeks, setting up a server to host them would be a nice thing to do.

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     Jens Glad Balchen (selulven@mastodon.ste.no)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 02:17:10 JST Jens Glad Balchen

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     @evan Already have, for my own reasons. But why should anyone with ability do it?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 02:51:25 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • ja2ui0 :commodore:

     @jq GOOD

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     ja2ui0 :commodore: (jq@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 02:51:33 JST ja2ui0 :commodore:

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     @evan I'm strongly considering spinning up a mastodon instance. If I do, it will definitely be on current-glitch.

     Anyone in my network have enthusiasm about helping with something like that or would I be on my own?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 07:06:59 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Naiavenna - Moonglade Musings

     @Suramarspicejar All the people on the instance lose their accounts and all their data

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     Naiavenna - Moonglade Musings (suramarspicejar@mstdn.party)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 07:07:00 JST Naiavenna - Moonglade Musings

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     @evan I never considered the question but what happens if an instance is closed/shut down without warning?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 22:12:59 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Matt Knight

     @mattknight there's a process for adding your site to joinmastodon.org, so that might be a good idea.

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     Matt Knight (mattknight@mastodon.online)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 22:13:00 JST Matt Knight

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     @evan was planning a single user instance but now thinking maybe a public one could be doable. Any tips for getting the word out once it’s live?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-2022 23:54:26 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Matt :idic: 🌌

     @matt thank you ??

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     Matt :idic: 🌌 (matt@oceanplayground.social)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-2022 23:54:27 JST Matt :idic: 🌌

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     @evan I set one up for Atlantic Canada, but mine isn't the only one! There's at least one for Halifax too. Didn't know about the Fredericton one mentioned above.

     :nb_flag: :ns_flag: :pei_flag: :nfl_flag:

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     Kosta Harlan (kostajh@mastodon.embros.org)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-2022 23:57:20 JST Kosta Harlan

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     • Thomas Cameron

     @ThomasCameron512 @evan I wrote up a guide (ish) https://www.kostaharlan.net/posts/twitter-mastodon/ tl;dr for single user instance you don’t seem to need more than the minimal digital ocean setup (1gb RAM)

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     Thomas Cameron (thomascameron512@mastodon.online)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-2022 23:57:21 JST Thomas Cameron

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     @evan what are the requirements for a dedicated instance? As in, how many cpus, memory, and storage would I need?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-2022 23:58:33 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • grin

     @grin Ok, counter-counter-point: there were about 230M daily users of Twitter as of April 2022.

     If we are going to welcome even a tenth of that userbase here, we're going to need a lot more account space.

     I am sure that there are lots of individual server operators willing to go to $1K/month or even $10K/month to run huge servers, but I am also sure that a lot won't.

     So, a friendly and hospitable thing to do is set up a server and host a few hundred or thousand new friends.

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     grin (grin@fika.grin.hu)'s status on Sunday, 20-Nov-2022 23:58:45 JST grin

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     @evan I'd like to slightly disagree for multiple reasons.
     - New servers will be empty: no local and federated content, only follows. Even non-followed responses will be missing.
     - A closed server for one or few people is a waste of resources.
     - Running an open server definitely requires dedication and care, especially ensuring that it will run for extended periods of time, since it's not nice when your users observe that the server is no more.
     I would advise people to pick smaller but stable (running for months or years) instances rather than starting their own. They can still migrate to their own later if the need arise.
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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Monday, 21-Nov-2022 00:02:46 JST Evan Prodromou

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     A lot of confusion here!

     This is to host new users from the #TwitterMigration.

     If you can give them a place to park, you should.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Monday, 21-Nov-2022 00:20:55 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Steve Scotten

     @splicer SPLICER!!!

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     Steve Scotten (splicer@makersocial.online)'s status on Monday, 21-Nov-2022 00:20:56 JST Steve Scotten

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     @evan just did yesterday! Planning to try a Pleroma installation soon. Sadly I’m probably going to take down my pump.io instance very soon.

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     Alex Schroeder (kensanata@octodon.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Nov-2022 01:19:14 JST Alex Schroeder

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     • Matt :idic: 🌌

     @evan @matt I heard @atomicpoet has set up something for Vancouver.
     https://mastodon.social/@atomicpoet/109280693455117619

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     Darcy Casselman (flyingsquirrel@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Nov-2022 01:19:28 JST Darcy Casselman

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     @evan
     I got a bit spooked reading that thread about the DMCA implications of running an instance in the US. Is there guidance out there for similar issues in Canada?

     I have the financial wherewithal to run a server but maybe not for incorporating and hiring lawyers.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Monday, 21-Nov-2022 01:20:16 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • aidan

     @anulman @rahaeli yeah, but you've run public websites before right?

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     aidan (anulman@mstdn.ca)'s status on Monday, 21-Nov-2022 01:20:21 JST aidan

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     @evan I was looking into this yesterday; I’m scared of the legal headaches much more than the technical ones. For example, see this thread from @rahaeli : https://twitter.com/rahaeli/status/1593819064161665024?s=46&t=u_GZmX0hWGz0ffIRCCbYrw

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Monday, 21-Nov-2022 01:22:29 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Darcy Casselman

     @flyingsquirrel find a couple of friends and set up a coop.

     We're doing it in Canada with @cosocial .

     http://cosocial.ca/