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   Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 14:25:35 JST Blurry Moon
   wow enforcing immigration laws is exactly the same as auschiwtz
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 14:30:27 JST Blurry Moon

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     • Piggo :verified_horse:
     @piggo it was always still illegal and always relied on lack of enforcement to appease big farms. eventually this was going to happen.
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     Piggo :verified_horse: (piggo@piggo.space)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 14:30:28 JST Piggo :verified_horse:

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     @sun letting them all in, settle, have kids (who become citizens and that unconstitutional decree can't change it) ... and then rugpull, that's a mistake and terrible look
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 14:46:52 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • Piggo :verified_horse:
     Your statement implies the ones "rugpulling" them are the same people who willingly let them cross the border and settle illegally. They're not, they've been complaining about this for a decade. Now the only option left is to make an example out of those who took advantage of the situation. Simple as.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 14:50:45 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • Piggo :verified_horse:
     Creation a situation where nobody will rip the bandaid off because of optics was an intentional end state. All according to keikaku for mass migration fans.
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 14:50:46 JST Blurry Moon

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • Piggo :verified_horse:
     @piggo @Hoss i agree its bad.
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     Piggo :verified_horse: (piggo@piggo.space)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 14:50:47 JST Piggo :verified_horse:

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     • Hoss Delgado
     @Hoss @sun fair, but now you have the ethical dimension of breaking up families so even if it's still the same law, you look like the hitler
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 14:55:32 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • feld
     Define "full due process" in this context and what part of it is not being rendered.
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 14:55:33 JST feld

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     @sun I just want them to get the full due process or they'll take that shit away from us too. No matter how much of a burden it is. The solution isn't to bend the laws it's to shoulder the burden of the judicial workload.
     
     And then there are situations where they can only order them to "self deport" which is relatively meaningless so do the work to change the laws first.
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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:00:59 JST Owl

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     • feld
     They don't get full due process, or half, or any percentage. They're not citizens. We don't owe them anything.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:11:12 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • Owl
     • feld
     They actually do get the due process that's prescribed for deporting illegal immigrants. Due process depends on context. Due process for deportation has never involved time and cost intensive courtroom circuses at any point in US history. Countless people have been deported over the past 250 years without questions of due process violation being given any serious consideration until ~8 years ago.
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     Leyonhjelm (leyonhjelm@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:11:57 JST Leyonhjelm

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     • Piggo :verified_horse:
     @sun @piggo
     
     I admit it should have happened a lot sooner but it’s still necessary and I don’t care how bad people I am not interested in impressing feel about it
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:21:55 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • feld
     There is nothing preventing them from appealing their deportation after being returned to their country of origin.
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:21:56 JST feld

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     • Hoss Delgado
     @Hoss @sun are they getting the opportunity to appeal to the BIA and then appeal before a federal court?
     
     It appears the expedited removal that they're leveraging right now is not strictly being followed:
     
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     The Trump administration in January 2025 expanded expedited removal to its full extent. The new, expanded policy now applies to undocumented persons who:
     
     Are apprehended anywhere in the U.S.
     Cannot prove they have resided in the U.S. for at least two years; and,
     Entered the U.S. between Ports of Entry (POEs) or were paroled into the U.S. and have their parole status revoked.
     The expanded expedited removal guidelines do not apply to visa overstayers, though these individuals must be able to show evidence that they were entered the U.S. with a visa. As noted above, people placed in expedited removal may be deported in as little as a single day without an immigration court hearing or other appearance before an immigration judge.
     
     Those who are subject to expedited removal but claim fear of persecution or express an intention to apply for asylum should still receive a credible fear interview before an asylum officer. If they are determined to have a credible fear of persecution, they are removed from the expedited removal process.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:25:40 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • Thomas Magnum
     It's like saying it's wrong to confiscate ill gotten gains from a convicted fraudster because the family he started while running a ponzi scheme would be negatively impacted by it.
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     Thomas Magnum (leyonhjelm@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:25:41 JST Thomas Magnum

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • Piggo :verified_horse:
     @sun
     
     I don’t. Bringing your family along for the ride didn’t make it bad to punish their crime.
     
     @piggo @Hoss
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     Protoss (nigger@spergia.net)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:26:29 JST Protoss

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     • Piggo :verified_horse:
     @piggo @Hoss @sun their family was broken up when their parents illegally immigrated and had an anchor baby, the deportation is just a consequence.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:34:27 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • Owl
     • feld
     >the concept of these expedited deportations didn't even exist until 1996.
     Probably because mass illegal immigration across the Mexican border accelerated at an unprecedented rate in the late 20th century. The law changes to face new challenges to order.
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:34:28 JST feld

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • Owl
     @Hoss @Owl @sun the concept of these expedited deportations didn't even exist until 1996. Just look at how much shit didn't exist until 1996, and the limits they still kept in place
     
     https://www.congress.gov/committee-report/104th-congress/house-report/828/1
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:36:56 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • Nudhul
     Kid's a Mexican citizen too.
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     Nudhul (nudhul@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:36:57 JST Nudhul

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • Piggo :verified_horse:
     @Hoss @piggo @sun nobody needs to break them up. send the kids back with the parents
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:39:39 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • Nudhul
     If we can fly B2s into Iran's airspace and drop bombs with total impunity, why not Mexico?
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     Nudhul (nudhul@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:39:40 JST Nudhul

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • Piggo :verified_horse:
     @Hoss @piggo @sun mexico is a failed state and trump should just demolish it and all the cartels
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     Nudhul (nudhul@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:41:52 JST Nudhul

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • Piggo :verified_horse:
     @Hoss @piggo @sun (bankers) and the cartels are intimately tied together
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:43:02 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • feld
     Behold the marvels of the 21st century.
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:43:03 JST feld

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     • Hoss Delgado
     @Hoss @sun there is, because they have to be in court *here*
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     Encyclopædia Autistica (Order Now!) (mrsaturday@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:43:16 JST Encyclopædia Autistica (Order Now!)

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     • Piggo :verified_horse:
     @piggo @sun It never should have happened to begin with. Bleeding hearts that bring them up here and stick a Sword of Damocles over their head so they have someone to pity are just as cruel as those that want to break up families.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:44:47 JST cjd

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • Piggo :verified_horse:
     • Nicholas Conrad
     I think Tennessee has the right idea, just make it a crime to rent a house to illegals and they can arrange their own deportation in whatever way suits them.
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     Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:44:48 JST Nicholas Conrad

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • Piggo :verified_horse:

     If an American family moves to Europe, their US citizen 7 year old doesn't have a right to stay in the US without their parents.

     If immigrant parents move out of the US (because of deportation) their US citizen 7 year old isn't being denied or deprived of any right by being sent with them 🤷♀️

     The American family's 7 year old can't demand a non-citizen relative be imported to care for them which their family is out of country, and neither should the immigrant family's 7 year old.

     I am personally an open boarders guy, but this doesn't strike me as particularly unreasonable as long as they're just being deported and not sent to supermax dungeons.

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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:46:29 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • Owl
     • feld
     I've yet to see a supposed case of wrongful deportation that doesn't fall apart like wet tissue paper under scrutiny.
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:46:30 JST feld

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • Owl
     @Hoss @Owl @sun so let's actually follow these laws precisely. Too many examples where they are not.
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:48:44 JST Blurry Moon

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • Owl
     • feld
     @Hoss @feld @Owl i am willing to pay for expedited courts that can deport people in 5 minutes when they can't provide a green card or visa
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:55:15 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • Owl
     • feld
     Requiring that important government documents be readily producible on demand is a pretty reasonable expectation of anybody. If I hop in my car without my wallet and get pulled over, it's probably gonna be an issue.
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 15:58:37 JST Blurry Moon

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • Owl
     • feld
     @Hoss @feld @Owl you still get a court date and time to provide it but no reason they can't provide it within like even a day
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 16:06:38 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • Owl
     • feld
     The wife-beating MS-13 gang member that had been independently verified as such by federal law enforcement and the courts? No. Especially not him.
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 16:06:39 JST feld

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • Owl
     @Hoss @Owl @sun lol not even Abrego eh?
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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 16:08:54 JST Owl

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • feld
     Why do you care so much about brown people ffs
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 16:08:54 JST Blurry Moon

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • Owl
     • feld
     @Owl @feld @Hoss wanting the law to be followed is reasonable
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 16:08:55 JST feld

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • Owl
     @Hoss @Owl @sun yeah you could get deported if you're brown and forgot your wallet lol
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 16:09:07 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • Owl
     • feld
     Sounds like a really good reason not to forget your wallet, then.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 16:18:25 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • Owl
     • Dr. Btc
     • feld
     Already works wonders for lost dogs. You'd basically be doing Pedro a favor, Feld knows how forgetful he can be with important documentation that *checks US legal code* he is legally required to carry on his person at all times as a legal resident non-citizen.
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     Dr. Btc (drbtc@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 16:18:26 JST Dr. Btc

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • Owl
     • feld
     We should have chipped everyone that came through the border, would have made everything much easier
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     Nudhul (nudhul@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 16:26:04 JST Nudhul

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • Owl
     • feld
     @Owl @feld @Hoss @sun his pfp looks kind of hispanic imo
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 16:26:04 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • feld
     Surname is Felder, it's just the German ancestry talking. You know how fond they are of unvetted brown men running around the place.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 16:45:56 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • cjd
     • Hoss Delgado
     • Owl
     • feld
     It'll probably get knocked down for the same reason other state laws regulating immigration has, only the federal government can regulate immigration.
     
     There's a better way to do this anyway. You just require that a landlord get a copy of the person's state ID before renting. You don't give state IDs to illegals. If landlord doesn't, he can't collect rent. While it seems like a win for illegals, trust me.... landlords will start checking IDs.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 16:45:58 JST cjd

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     • feld
     It didn't used to be that way, and back in the 90s "Papers Please" was a reference to the German Gestapo.
     
     ID to drive, ID to buy cigarettes or alcohol, ID to enter a bar has basically changed all of that. It has become de facto required to carry papers at all times, and show them on demand. Nobody makes the "Papers Please" Gestapo reference anymore.
     
     Like I said before, I think Tennessee has the right idea, make it illegal to rent to illegals. The landlord is already vetting the person, so he can ask them to establish their legality and take the time to look over it. Bust a few of the most egregiously non-complaint landlords and let the rest of them do the vetting.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 16:46:43 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • feld
     I'm not a lolbert so I don't think it's tyranny for society to have a reasonable expectation that people be able to identify themselves to authorities and officials when it's prudent for them to do so.
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     Dr. Btc (drbtc@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 16:55:22 JST Dr. Btc

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     • Hoss Delgado
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     • feld
     As long as I get the secret badge to bypass all the bs they can hassle brown people all day for all I care
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 16:55:22 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • feld
     The secret badge is being obviously not foreign.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 16:56:48 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • LordOfTheKangs
     • feld
     I didn't claim it was a silver bullet.
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     LordOfTheKangs (lordofthekangs@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 16:56:49 JST LordOfTheKangs

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     • feld
     @Hoss @DrBtc @feld @Owl @cjd @sun That only works if birthright citizenship is repealed
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 16:58:29 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • Owl
     • Dr. Btc
     • feld
     Here you go....
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     LordOfTheKangs (lordofthekangs@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 17:02:10 JST LordOfTheKangs

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     • cjd
     • Hoss Delgado
     • Owl
     • Dr. Btc
     • feld
     @Hoss @feld @DrBtc @Owl @cjd @sun Just being pragmatic, not trying to blackpill
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 17:13:04 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • feld
     We're already at the point where the government perpetually collects nearly every scrap of personal data we generate. Seems like the only time privacy arguments are even humored now is when it allows for selective oversights in the panopticon that makes the whole prison even more dangerous for the inmates.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 17:13:05 JST cjd

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     • feld
     I get it, I mean the average person who is unable to show ID is up to no good. But it's kind of like the privacy argument... Good people have nothing to hide and criminals don't, so might as well give up privacy too...
     
     But each new rule creates a tiny little bit of additional friction for everyone, a little bit more distrust, and it chips away at social cohesion (if that's still a thing) until everything feels like a shitty government school.
     
     IDK what the answer is, it's self-evident that a hell of a lot of people need to be excluded before a high trust society will ever be possible, but the goal should always be that people who CAN be trusted should live in a society where they are.
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     Peter (1967gto@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 17:14:36 JST Peter

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     • Owl
     • feld
     @feld @Hoss @Owl @sun >yeah you could get deported if you're brown and forgot your wallet lol
     You can get deported for being Canadian, knew two who ran afoul of CBP. Not having your wallet isn't a big deal. I've talked my way out of 'fail to produce' tickets simply by reciting my driver's license number. They punch it in and every one goes home happy.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 17:31:37 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • feld
     I think an illegal would have standing. They could sue as doe.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 17:31:38 JST cjd

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • Owl
     • feld
     Oh yeah, there's a money laundering angle to this - "prove that you're actually renting an apartment and not receiving illegal funds".
     
     > It'll probably get knocked down
     
     Well, to actually get it struck down, they will need to enforce it against someone who is prepared to fight. And I mean, if you're a landlord, do you really want to go to war with the state government? End up with the board of health doing surprise inspections on every one of your units, etc..
     
     And then for everyone else, if you rent to illegals then it's regulatory uncertainty and if you don't then it's not...
     
     I think the real risk for Tennessee is that a malicious DA will bring a trash case against someone who has nothing to lose just for the purpose of getting the law overturned.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Friday, 04-Jul-2025 17:35:22 JST cjd

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     • Hoss Delgado
     • Owl
     • feld
     With Federal cooperation, they wouldn't even make it into the courtroom. Again, if I was illegal I'd tell the NGO lawyer "nah bro, I'm good".
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 05-Jul-2025 01:57:39 JST cjd

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     • feld
     Yes, the whole system is so fucked. The super-wealthy power elite have either abdicated their responsibility to protect society, or acted with express malice to destroy it. In either case the tree of liberty needs watering.
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     brimshae (brimshae@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 05-Jul-2025 02:00:01 JST brimshae

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     @Hoss @sun @feld @Owl I memorized my DL number. I had to memorize a lot of shit when I was in the AF, and I also grew up in the analog world, so one more ten digit number was nothing.

     I haven't had to use this yet, but who knows.

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     Bloodytailspike (monsterislandcolonizer@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 05-Jul-2025 02:04:24 JST Bloodytailspike

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     • Piggo :verified_horse:
     @Hoss @piggo @sun >a decade
     Twenty years
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