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   ☢️ :hacker_s: :hacker_n: :hacker_e: :hacker_e: :hacker_d: :what_a_shame: (nitrodubs@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-May-2025 23:33:57 JST ☢️ :hacker_s: :hacker_n: :hacker_e: :hacker_e: :hacker_d: :what_a_shame:

   • 翠星石
   Unless they use a belt alternator starter, stop start systems are retarded. There’s about 2% of the time when they’re useful and about 98% of the time when they’re not.
   
   RT: https://freesoftwareextremist.com/objects/cd5a1645-0812-44f1-8522-24bc11fdc310
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 12-May-2025 23:33:55 JST 翠星石

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     • Eleutheria2
     @Eleutheria2 @NitroDubs Most people who drive cars seem to be traffic enthusiasts now.
     
     In a rural area, you're not going to having any issues with stop signs as an occasional red light, as what the starter specced for city traffic runs a whole 5 times in several hours?
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     Eleutheria2 (eleutheria2@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-May-2025 23:33:56 JST Eleutheria2

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     @NitroDubs @Suiseiseki And the caveat being "more than 20 seconds". So it's a great idea if you're a bugman and traffic enthusiast. But if you're someone in a rural area who is dealing with stop signs and the occasional red light going to a state route, you're hosed.
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     CenturianFrend (centurianfrend@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-May-2025 23:40:34 JST CenturianFrend

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     • 翠星石
     @NitroDubs @Suiseiseki I could leave my car idling for the rest of my life and still wouldn't touch a fraction of a fraction of the carbon footprint of Leo Dicaprios yearly jet trips
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 12-May-2025 23:40:34 JST 翠星石

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     • CenturianFrend
     @CenturianFrend @NitroDubs Leaving a car idling costs you money in fuel to get your nowhere - resulting in a fuel economy of ∞ Litres/100km - which is reason enough to avoid pointless idling.
     
     The concept of the "carbon footprint" was coined by a fossil fuel company that massively pollutes, often without reason, to make individuals think they are at fault, rather than them.
     
     At a red light, one car idling away doesn't do anything, but 50 cars idling away results in a large cloud of pollution.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 12-May-2025 23:44:35 JST 翠星石

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     • DS.Now
     @DNutzinski @NitroDubs It's in fact "retarded" to be concerned about a car engine stopping of a car you are loaning - imagine being unable to sit in a car without hearing the sound of an engine idling.
     
     It is also double "retarded" to hold the accelerator of a car while you are stopped to make it idle, then stop, then idle.
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     DS.Now (dnutzinski@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-May-2025 23:44:36 JST DS.Now

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     • 翠星石
     @NitroDubs @Suiseiseki Had a loaner Mini several years ago, drove it the 2 hours back to where I live on main roads & never 'stopped'.
     
     First light I stopped at in town the damned thing cut off!!!
     
     Thankfully, I'm not retarded & I figured it out really quick- but- the next thing I did was plow through the 'settings' and DISABLED that shit.
     
     When I went to p/u the gf's Mini, I asked the (lol) girl at the counter about the engine shit, and if it was stopping at TDC or just hitting the starter & she had the biggest 'deer in headlights' expression you could imagine. Works. At. The. Service. Desk. Didn't even understand the question.
     
     And yeah- I hear these dipshits cars/trucks around me starting up for the whole 30sec of off time & just giggle about them killing their starters/flywheels.
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     Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Monday, 12-May-2025 23:52:34 JST Nicholas Conrad

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     • Eleutheria2

     Very wierd to see ultimate software freedom man defending the government dictating when cars can be on or off. What if I just don't want a scumbag DC bureaucrat pushing my car buttons via legislation?

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 12-May-2025 23:55:14 JST 翠星石

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     • DS.Now
     @DNutzinski @NitroDubs Provided the car isn't defective and the engine starts up in <0.5s, I don't see why you would be concerned about that - you press the accelerator and the car goes in less time that it takes to put a manual in gear and let off the clutch/accelerate.
     
     Usually you aren't first in the intersection, thus also it's quite easy to time the startup to coincide with when the car in front of you moves.
     
     
     It was in fact a "normal car" - nicer starting than a manual even - you brake and it stops at the intersection - you accelerate and it goes.
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     DS.Now (dnutzinski@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 12-May-2025 23:55:15 JST DS.Now

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     @Suiseiseki @NitroDubs Didn't need that delay of startup.
     
     Also, you're right not my car- so no, I DID NOT CARE that I was using it like a normal car & not some retarded self-engine-stopping vunterwheels.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 12-May-2025 23:56:57 JST 翠星石

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     • Eleutheria2
     @nicholas @Eleutheria2 @NitroDubs I wrote nothing of the sort.
     
     I want auto stop-start of engine with free software.
     
     The user would also have the freedom to disable that feature if they want to pointlessly waste fuel if it was free software.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 13-May-2025 00:00:44 JST 翠星石

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     • CenturianFrend
     • Zergling_man
     @Zergling_man @CenturianFrend @NitroDubs Yes, I do turn the engine off when I'm going to be waiting at a light, but it's needlessly inconvenient - as the ECU is perfectly capable of doing it by itself, but it doesn't and that also wears out the starter key mechanism.
     
     GNU/Car will have auto stop-start, but it will clearly have a mode where that feature is disabled in the rare case when it's unwanted.
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     Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Tuesday, 13-May-2025 00:00:45 JST Zergling_man

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     • CenturianFrend
     @Suiseiseki @NitroDubs @CenturianFrend Turning your engine off if you're going to be waiting a while at a light is a reasonable idea, like everything about cars, best to leave it entirely in the hands of the driver, who can look at the situation and determine when it is appropriate.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 13-May-2025 00:17:18 JST 翠星石

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     • Zergling_man
     @Zergling_man @CenturianFrend @NitroDubs Yes, a decent free software stop-start functionality will wait an adjustable number of seconds before the engine will stop, so that issue won't occur.
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     Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Tuesday, 13-May-2025 00:17:19 JST Zergling_man

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     • CenturianFrend
     @Suiseiseki @NitroDubs @CenturianFrend >rare
     I mean, most of the stops I make, it's not worth letting the engine drop out, because they're only going to be a couple of seconds.
     So my point stands.
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     CenturianFrend (centurianfrend@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 13-May-2025 00:36:05 JST CenturianFrend

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     • Zergling_man
     @Suiseiseki @Zergling_man @NitroDubs would like a carbon footprint increaser mode please, want my truck to roll coal 100% of the time.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 13-May-2025 00:36:05 JST 翠星石

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     • Zergling_man
     @CenturianFrend @NitroDubs @Zergling_man Yes, with free software, you would have the ability to dump the whole tank through the engine in 45 minutes until you get you car taken by the government (but people are doing that with proprietary software with bypasses to the restrictions already).
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     brimshae (brimshae@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 13-May-2025 00:47:22 JST brimshae

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     @NitroDubs @Suiseiseki Car engines like running at a constant speed. Stopping and especially starting them is very hard on them.

     Starting in particular because when the engine stops so does the oil which all drops back down in to the oil pan, so instead of having a good flow of oil and proper lubrication you have whatever residue is left on the parts.

     I'm gonna continue this in a separate post because it's going to distract from what I said.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 13-May-2025 00:47:22 JST 翠星石

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     • brimshae
     @brimshae @NitroDubs Car engines like running at a constant speed at a nice position in the power band.
     
     They don't like barely turning over at low RPM.
     
     Couldn't one design an engine to resume proper lubrication almost immediately and therefore the residue lubricates fine until then?
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     Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-May-2025 16:08:28 JST Nicholas Conrad

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     • Eleutheria2

     That would be acceptable.

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