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Avatar of ChaosA lot of non-tech people are really passionate about the idea of "physical media" when the truth is that your physical media is infinitely more likely to be damaged, lost, stop being compatible with your device, need manual patching, etc.. You have to realize the "physical" in physical media is as much of a money grubbing industry as having it be owned by a company, and DVD readers and retro consoles will one day be dusty collectors items that will cost you an arm and a leg for upkeep
If you're into tech (real practical tech, not the political industry) you'll understand the only truly infinite and forever is piracy. that's right. Neither corporations nor your beloved physical hands that God made could do anything to make your precious little movies and video games last forever. But you know what does? Torrent sites. Illegal cloud storage so scattered and abstract no force on this earth will ever reach them. Not corpo. Not the law. Not even the natural force of fucking entropy. Do you know how a cloud works? One million computers, all connected to the internet, each host multiple copies of your media. One million or more. An infinite army of disposable clones that can never be contained. Missing bit from computer 9,681 during download? Computers 22,316-933,183 have that bit uploaded for you and you don't even have to think about it. When you "torrent" something, a number of computers equal to the population of a metropolitan city is at your service and ready to put it together for you atom by fucking atom from a total of several quadrillion bits collectively hosted in unreal digital space
@MK2boogaloo There is no cloud - it's just other people's computers.
Depending on the popularity of the torrent, there can be millions of seeders or none.
Videos in proprietary formats or proprietary games are not forever, as eventually you won't be able to get the right proprietary player working or the right proprietary OS working for the games (in a reasonable amount of time or at all).
A video encoded in a free format will be playable pretty much forever of course.
Most quality movie torrents were dumped from physical media (as that's the only way to get a quality version of the video for most movies) and bittorrent just acts as a backup really.
@EdBoatConnoisseur@MK2boogaloo Quality optical disks can outlast HDD's and SSD's easily, although a lot of them are junk that just rot, thus for storing certain things, DVD's or bluray disks with plenty of parity via dvdisater can be good.
@MK2boogaloo Fuckers nowadays don't ubderstand that cd rot is still athing that can happen to their precious dvd and blue ray discs, i still remember back in 2007 when my first eminem cd became unusable because of cd rot.
If you want a long-term archive format that also does compression properly, you want lzip (it can restore a good file automatically from two or more files that are corrupted in different parts and can automatically repair/workaround minor corruption).
@Suiseiseki@MK2boogaloo Still my chain of trust for important data tp be stored long term is: lto tape > hard drives in a raid array for parity > zip archives on hard drives.
@Suiseiseki@MK2boogaloo There's a reason i put zip at last, been also looking at 7z and tar.zst as options, i got some .rar files that i gotta convert to either zip or 7z, believe me i do lament that the innovation on compressed archive algorithms and formats has put more importance to speed and compression ration than to archival for bit rot and file corruption prevention/mitigation.
I don't think that you are exactly on point, but you're pretty close.
Physical media really doesn't matter, what really matters is DRM free. You don't need original physical media if you can make as many copies as you want, and then it doesn't matter if you lose the original disc, because you have 10 others.
For a lot of these games, they will give you a CD but who cares -- you can't start a single player game without contacting an external server anyway!
@MK2boogaloo >A lot of non-tech people are really passionate about the idea of "physical media" when the truth is that your physical media is infinitely more likely to be damaged, lost, stop being compatible with your device, need manual patching, etc. >infinitely more likely Stopped listening to this heavy bait right here.
@EdBoatConnoisseur@MK2boogaloo there was that big youtuber guy that was into physical stuff and whatever and his place burned down losing everything and i gloated about it on fedi lmfao
@Pawlicker@MK2boogaloo@EdBoatConnoisseur rar is a terrible proprietary format that should not be used. >windtoddler blames windows limitations on 7z. >windtoddler can't handle filesplitting extensions. >toddler can't handle the software not being bloated and not integrating, parity, instead of a parity program for that if wanted. Install GNU/Linux and use lzip and parity software.
@EdBoatConnoisseur@Suiseiseki@MK2boogaloo rar is bad if you're fixating on that but it can handle corruption vastly better than 7z. 7z doesn't have a recovery record like rar does.
@MK2boogaloo@sj_zero and if you do look for old enough games that are gonna be drm free, you're gonna overpay for "limited quantity" "retro games" instead of just buying a fucking game
@MK2boogaloo@sj_zero i can already imagine someone selling WON half life for over 9000 dollars cuz it's rare, you're better off making your own physical media distributions of games by buying dvd-rw's and shit
@lina@MK2boogaloo@sj_zero Back when LGR was still cozy he often noted that there were already entire shops selling for hundreds dollars what he could find by thrift hunting.
@lina@MK2boogaloo@sj_zero imo storing pirated games has more of a charm for me. The communities that get together to get rid of a drm on a game/app basically feel more welcoming than whatever gay little set of patchnotes that the dev left around.
@vokainen099@MK2boogaloo@sj_zero yeah because they're like piranhas that smelled blood in the water, they will either snatch up all the goods before actual human beings get their hands on them or they will drive the prices up so high that only they will be able to afford them
@vokainen099@MK2boogaloo@sj_zero i remotely have an idea about that cuz i remember that one time some guy bought all the ran yakumo fumos and drove their prices up too far
@lina@vokainen099@MK2boogaloo@sj_zero imagine buying the whole stock of those reddit plushes, glazing all of them with cum and then selling them back to those cucks that want them without cleaning up
@vokainen099@lina@sj_zero damn, I kinda understand. Youtubers who went from doing it in their free time to full time usually lost whatever made their stuff fun to watch in the first place.
@MK2boogaloo@lina@sj_zero He got increasingly repetitive and soulless. Part of it obvs is the increasing difficulty in finding new content to talk about, but since he dropped his actual job to do YouTube you kinda feel he's less himself
@Pawlicker@Suiseiseki@MK2boogaloo it is the whole tool composing vs integrated tool, rar was innovative back in the day when it came to integrating all the functions of more traditional utilities (ar/tar, split+cat, gpg/mycrypt), meanwhile other formats embraced the unix style composability, the only format that embraced the idea of an integrated archiving and compression tool WHILE keeping composability in mind has been 7z (as far as i know)
@Pawlicker@Suiseiseki@MK2boogaloo To put an example of composability, say you take a collection of files that is 8GB, you make that collection into an archive with tar and compress with say xz to produce kek_files.tar.xz, then encrypt that with mycrypt to use a password (openssl for an arbitrary keypass or gpg for your gpg key) so u got kek_file.tar.xz.crypt which then would be operated by split to create 512MB chunks, so you'll end up with a list of files like kek_files.tar.xz.crypt.x01 to .x16, you can finally upload those files and whoever downloads them will know they need to cat all 16 pieces into a single .crypt file, unencrypt that with mycrypt and the password, then extract the tar.xz archive as usual, the convenience of that is that every compression format only needs to implement compression, not any of the archiving, splitting and encrypting shenanigans.
Why does it not integrate shit that other file formats can do fine? Oh wait you're a professional arguer who wished he could have been as cool as the tapout shirt guys in school