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   Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 00:02:51 JST Insane Eagle Sun
   For whatever reason AI isn't so great at C or Makefiles. I noticed that terse languages work better, probably because it's easier to textually derive meaning from code than from declarative magic shit
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 00:06:12 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     There is a ton of C code in existence that surely it's read, why is it so bad at it?
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 00:09:39 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @segfault it's kind of mindblowing but Claude was way better at handling GBA programming in Zig than C despite basically all code for GBA programming it must have consumed being in C and almost none in Zig.
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     segfault (segfault@class.lunanova.dev)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 00:09:40 JST segfault

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     @sun C be hard yo. Most humans can’t program it properly
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     :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 00:11:33 JST :blank:

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     @sun probably because billions lines more of autogenerated code exist that kill off any humanity left in the model, no one's training on minified JS, but i bet you a ton of ./configured makefiles are wrung through the process
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 00:12:33 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @i understandable but disappointing.
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 00:17:53 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @why good
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     You Will Never Know Why (why@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 00:17:54 JST You Will Never Know Why

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     @sun OOP didn't kill C
     interpreted languages didn't kill C
     web apps didn't kill C
     lack of AI is gonna C
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     H. Faust (hfaust@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 00:17:56 JST H. Faust

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     @why @sun C stands for Chad :gigachad:
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 00:19:33 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @sun C, after all we can keep our jobs without LLMs :P
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 00:22:21 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @sun Also it being bad at C makes me wonder how it would do at Perl.
     Maybe LLMs just hate expressive programming languages.
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 00:22:35 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @lanodan arcana told me it's really good at perl
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 02:24:49 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     @sun maybe C really is hard
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     ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 02:47:36 JST ≠

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     @jeffcliff @sun
     
     maybe writing code is easier than writing good code AND management cracking the whip early gets a lot of hacks shipped
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     ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 02:48:32 JST ≠

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     @jeffcliff @sun
     
     it is also that when we die we are sentenced to an eternity of editing all the code and text we wrote
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 02:48:49 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     @amerika @sun i feel pretty exactly like that right now, bootstrapping java
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 19:19:40 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @lispi314 @iska @why I bet AI is good at cobol
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     LisPi (lispi314@udongein.xyz)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 19:19:41 JST LisPi

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     @why @iska @sun Neither have those things killed COBOL.
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     mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 20:57:30 JST mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:

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     @sun @segfault I wonder how it would handle verilog.
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     :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 21:14:02 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄

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     @sun @segfault is zig full of UB like C? might be that languages without UB just work better for this because you can't create syntactically valid garbage.

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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Jan-2025 02:39:39 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @mangeurdenuage @segfault I'll try eventually, I have a device for it
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Jan-2025 02:39:56 JST lainy

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     @sun did you let it read your file structure in agent mode?
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Jan-2025 02:40:59 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @lain I don't know what agent mode does, I'll learn about it.
     
     I also found out you can create a file .cursorrules that tells it important context about the project, which may help.
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     Insane Eagle Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Jan-2025 02:41:38 JST Insane Eagle Sun

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     @lain I used up all my fast prompts trying to debug something lol
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Jan-2025 02:42:03 JST lainy

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     @sun you can also write something like 'reply like a cyber catgirl' in .cursorrules lol
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