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   Dave Troy :toad: (davetroy@toad.social)'s status on Sunday, 12-Jan-2025 22:04:02 JST Dave Troy :toad:

   European countries should simply either block or tax the parasitic US big tech companies that insist on violating their laws and roiling their internal affairs. Promote local competition. You don’t need these toxic, retrograde companies.

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     Toni Aittoniemi (gimulnautti@mastodon.green)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 00:13:34 JST Toni Aittoniemi

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     @davetroy Be like Brazil. Ban X. Musk shut up about it immediately, hasn’t said a word about them since.

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     Paul Sutton (zleap@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 00:14:22 JST Paul Sutton

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     Agreed, the ban was short but shifted things to the side of Brazil so they were calling the shots, it proves it can be done

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     Paul Sutton (zleap@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 16-Jan-2025 17:09:37 JST Paul Sutton

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     @Veza85UE @gimulnautti @crazyeddie @davetroy

     I will see if I can contact my local MP and get the lib dems on here, I decretly left a few of my join the fediverse cards in the co-op as there is a community noice board with space at the bottom for cards and small flyers.

     Granted these point to fediverse party which is fine, but it raises awareness the fediverse is a thing. If they see the fediverse logo in lots of places, it may have that subliminal effect.

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     Veza85UE (veza85ue@eupolicy.social)'s status on Thursday, 16-Jan-2025 17:09:38 JST Veza85UE

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     @gimulnautti @crazyeddie @zleap @davetroy
     The dumb lack of imagination is very real, which is why the broligarchs waking them up from their stupor are doing us a favour. But tax euros are few, overstretched and not collected by the EU, but by member states. What "Europe" can & should do ASAP is fix the fragmentation that makes leveraging private money for innovative projects so much harder. They've at least started on the 28th jurisdiction for startups, Capital Markets Union next (inchallah...)

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     Toni Aittoniemi (gimulnautti@mastodon.green)'s status on Thursday, 16-Jan-2025 17:09:40 JST Toni Aittoniemi

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     @crazyeddie @zleap @davetroy Europe needs to funnel tax euros to development and establishment of protocols, to provide a firm ground for homegrown social media startups to grow from.

     Unfortunately #eu politicians can't get their head around the fact that social media can look different than Facebook or Xitter.

     This is a huge moment. And by investing in open-source backbones & protocols European digital souvereignty could be guaranteed.

     But it needs to be built, not falling from US heavens.

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     crazyeddie (crazyeddie@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 16-Jan-2025 17:09:41 JST crazyeddie

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     @zleap @gimulnautti @davetroy For now. If all of Europe and everyone else capitulate it will be a lot less possible to make a move like Brazil did.

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     Paul Sutton (zleap@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 17:15:23 JST Paul Sutton

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     @cmthiede @crazyeddie @gimulnautti @davetroy

     I would assume, as an open protocol, ActivityPub can adapt and change over time, so that newer services can be created with newer features. Existing services will also adapt. Or we get say Mastodon2.0 which is backward compatible with 1.0. Not sure how the data base works that stores data, but I would guess it is seperate from AP so data can be moved just like data can be downloaded and uploaded to a different instance. So at some point we can download from a AP1.0 instance and upload to a AP2.0 instance.

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     crazyeddie (crazyeddie@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 17:15:24 JST crazyeddie

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     @cmthiede @gimulnautti @zleap @davetroy It's been bouncing around in my head quite a lot. I don't know that ActivityPub will do it, but it's the closest thing we have right now maybe. I envision something more integrated with your home network though, that is founded on secure, unique identity, and is "homeless" as far as needing some particular service or everyone has to re-address you. Most of the stuff we share can be shared just between our actual devices.

     I'll have a read.

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     CM Thiede (cmthiede@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 17:15:24 JST CM Thiede

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     @crazyeddie @gimulnautti @zleap @davetroy not confident ActivityPub is the magic bullet either, but with 4 days to launch, that seems to be the only one loaded in the chamber with people already interested and on the move.

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     CM Thiede (cmthiede@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 17:15:25 JST CM Thiede

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     @gimulnautti @crazyeddie @zleap @davetroy this stuff is all getting too crazy and a good place to insert a recommendation for this book read

     https://social.vivaldi.net/@cmthiede/113489473420052381

     It's all coming down to the build out of "smart" cities. Look into the players building Brazil's. Them choosing not to allow Xsquawk in their country won't mean they won't allow home grown TruthBrazil (made it up) to prosper without major competition.

     Now that the price for compute has come down drastically as well as solar for power, the only thing people can do to battle the machines (blocs) controlling the machines, is if everyone turns off all their networked crap as a "whole," as if that would ever happen voluntarily, or the device that would give them simple transmit/receive be manufactured at hyperscale so anyone wanting to connect to the public at large can do so without a fascist filter. It can be built. Plenty on this planet live that way already. It's a matter of getting that ability into the hands of everyone, and fast. This is strictly for bouncing around in ActivityPub land, mind you, not everywhere in the digiverse! We still need to leave that playground for the hackers. #gibberish but not really.

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     Paul Sutton (zleap@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 18-Jan-2025 04:41:04 JST Paul Sutton

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     @crazyeddie @cmthiede @gimulnautti @davetroy

     Something like this?

     https://small-tech.org/about/

     @aral

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     crazyeddie (crazyeddie@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 18-Jan-2025 04:41:05 JST crazyeddie

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     @zleap @cmthiede @gimulnautti @davetroy ActivityPub is designed for http/https style traffic with service servers being maintained by someone that are out on the web with a public IP. When one goes down or you want to move you have to do a re-homing (it's baked into the protocol I think).

     But, if you just wanted to share stuff with friends you could do it over I2P or Tor and that has a unique address that is a key.

     One part of the idea bouncing in my head. Detach from the web.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 18-Jan-2025 17:33:41 JST Aral Balkan

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     @crazyeddie @zleap @cmthiede @gimulnautti @davetroy Just to clarify, the Small Web is not web3/blockchain (eww) :)

     Quite on the contrary, it’s web0 ;)

     https://web0.small-web.org

     More: https://ar.al/2024/06/24/small-web-computer-science-colloquium-at-university-of-groningen/

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     crazyeddie (crazyeddie@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 18-Jan-2025 17:33:42 JST crazyeddie

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     @zleap @cmthiede @gimulnautti @davetroy @aral Right idea anyway. I don't know if following wed3 with blockchain is the way to go, but I never really studied that. Something. There's a lot of ideas floating around actually.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 18-Jan-2025 17:40:40 JST Aral Balkan

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     @gimulnautti @crazyeddie @zleap @cmthiede @davetroy Haha, thanks :)

     (PS. It’s been a while since I’ve looked at that page. Just noticed some spammy links have crept in. Must make some time to weed them out. Amazing the lengths some folks will go to to get their link on a page.) :)

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     Toni Aittoniemi (gimulnautti@mastodon.green)'s status on Saturday, 18-Jan-2025 17:40:41 JST Toni Aittoniemi

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     @aral @crazyeddie @zleap @cmthiede @davetroy signed!

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 18-Jan-2025 17:47:44 JST Aral Balkan

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     @gimulnautti @crazyeddie @zleap @cmthiede @davetroy Thanks, will read :)

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     Toni Aittoniemi (gimulnautti@mastodon.green)'s status on Saturday, 18-Jan-2025 17:47:46 JST Toni Aittoniemi

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     @aral @crazyeddie @zleap @cmthiede @davetroy

     Since we’re posting manifestos, here’s my whitepaper for a model of establishing a market for scraping rights, where the individual gets to set their price, and state makes the addresses who scraped it pay.

     Yeah. I know Americans will never put ”state” and ”market” in the same box, but I’m Nordic. For us this way is a no-brainer. 🙂

     #ai #scraping #manifesto
     https://gimulnaut.wordpress.com/2024/10/12/commit-to-paying-by-scraping-a-market-based-model-of-re-introducing-value-feedback-into-an-ai-based-information-economy/