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   Lori (lorimeyers@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 22:39:21 JST Lori

   perguntinha pra vcs dos blambers: como vcs fazem cloud storage? (ou não fazem?)
   tipo, dos seus arquivos pessoais.

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     Cadu Silva :verified: (cadusilva@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 22:47:29 JST Cadu Silva :verified:

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     @lorimeyers eu uso object storage (com API S3), que não oferece apps prontos, nem aquelas pastas integradas ao sistema, nem nada. Mas pago só o que utilizo, custa em média US$ 6/TB/mês.

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     Lori (lorimeyers@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 22:52:38 JST Lori

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     @cadusilva acho q sem apps seria mto difícil pra mim ainda.

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     Cadu Silva :verified: (cadusilva@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 22:54:12 JST Cadu Silva :verified:

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     @lorimeyers tem esse aqui custando US$ 9/mês (ou US$ 99/ano) e oferece espaço ilimitado, além de app para Mac e Windows.

     💾 https://www.backblaze.com/cloud-backup/personal

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     Lori (lorimeyers@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 22:57:32 JST Lori

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     • Different Drummer

     @DifferentDrummer all my files are scattered through a bunch of devices. I don't know what to do. I wanted some place I could access everything from any device. :(

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     Different Drummer (differentdrummer@syzito.xyz)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 22:57:33 JST Different Drummer

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     @lorimeyers As lot of people will tell you "the cloud is just OTHER PEOPLE'S computers." Basically it's a risk.

     I still use MEGA and Mediafire to back up things I'd like to find again should my drives ever be lost in a disaster. Few regular folk can afford actual secure offsite storage, so we're left with these risky online options.

     I have to say I've never lost anything from Mediafire (yet).

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     Lori (lorimeyers@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 22:58:08 JST Lori

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     • Cadu Silva :verified:

     @cadusilva vou olhar esse

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     Lori (lorimeyers@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 22:58:31 JST Lori

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     • Mauricio Castro :escudoGalo:

     @mauriciobc mas eu tô querendo tirar o windows

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     Mauricio Castro :escudoGalo: (mauriciobc@ursal.zone)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 22:58:32 JST Mauricio Castro :escudoGalo:

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     @lorimeyers Eles tem um app chamado Box Drive para Windows, se você gosta de ter sincronia com o PC.

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     Mauricio Castro :escudoGalo: (mauriciobc@ursal.zone)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 22:58:33 JST Mauricio Castro :escudoGalo:

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     @lorimeyers Tenho uma conta da BOX, que faço backups manuais. Me atende bem. Na conta gratuita eles oferecem 10GB de armazenamento com limite de 250mb no tamanho dos arquivos. Sem versionamento.

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     Lori (lorimeyers@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:01:06 JST Lori

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     • Cadu Silva :verified:
     • Linkzim

     @luiz_im @cadusilva eu queria juntar tudo q tá espalhado em vários dispositivos e conseguir acessar de qualquer dispositivo. eu posso até manter backups físicos, eu queria só conseguir acessar as coisas sem ter q ir ligando tudo e procurando.

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     Linkzim (luiz_im@bolha.us)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:01:07 JST Linkzim

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     • Cadu Silva :verified:

     @cadusilva @lorimeyers

     Não sei se é esse fazer um espelho do que vc tem no pc ou fazer um backup (guardar separadinho o que é importante)

     Eu faço o espelho, uso o Dropbox mesmo

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     Cadu Silva :verified: (cadusilva@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:04:59 JST Cadu Silva :verified:

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     • Linkzim

     @lorimeyers então melhor não pegar esse da Backblaze. O jeito é ir com um Drive da vida.

     @luiz_im

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     Lori (lorimeyers@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:07:10 JST Lori

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     • Different Drummer

     @DifferentDrummer I have 2 laptops and 2 desktops LOL
     I can't fit everything in just one (and half of them are not trustworthy)
     most my stuff are on my cell phones and tablet
     I use Google Cloud but I wanted to get out of Google. (and I can't fit everything there)

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     Different Drummer (differentdrummer@syzito.xyz)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:07:12 JST Different Drummer

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     @lorimeyers Do you have a desktop/laptop? If the drive on that is big enough, or there's a port inside for another drive, then copy/move everything you need that's not software to that from the other devices so it's all in one place *for access.* Still keep it all elsewhere as well, if you can, for safety. Being spread across devices is a safety feature, but inconvenient if you don't know what and where.

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     Lori (lorimeyers@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:07:44 JST Lori

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     • Different Drummer

     @DifferentDrummer that ship have sailed. they have my nudes.

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     Different Drummer (differentdrummer@syzito.xyz)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:07:45 JST Different Drummer

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     @lorimeyers Also, I would recommend against Googledrive. Absolutely anything you put on their cloud is visible to them and they will use it.

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     Lori (lorimeyers@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:08:25 JST Lori

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     • Cadu Silva :verified:
     • Linkzim

     @cadusilva @luiz_im eu tô no Google drive. então continuo lá?

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     Cadu Silva :verified: (cadusilva@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:10:41 JST Cadu Silva :verified:

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     • Linkzim

     @lorimeyers se estiver tudo bem pra você (tipo não se importar de ser o Google)...

     @luiz_im

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     Lori (lorimeyers@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:13:48 JST Lori

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     • Cadu Silva :verified:
     • Linkzim

     @luiz_im @cadusilva e o Dropbox é fácil?

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     Linkzim (luiz_im@bolha.us)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:13:49 JST Linkzim

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     • Cadu Silva :verified:

     @cadusilva @lorimeyers
     Google drive é mais difícil SINCRONIZAR no Linux, mas montar e acessar é fácil.
     Basicamente é logar na interface no tutorial de boas-vindas

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     Lori (lorimeyers@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:17:41 JST Lori

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     • Different Drummer

     @DifferentDrummer what kind of horror stories? I was considering Dropbox.....

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     Different Drummer (differentdrummer@syzito.xyz)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:17:42 JST Different Drummer

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     @lorimeyers I don't know how 'instant' the linking is to files on sites like Mega and Mediafire. They tend to be upload/download situations rather than direct access. But they do give you a nice chunk of storage before the charges apply.

     I have read a fair amount of horror stories concerning virtual drives like Google's Cloud., MS Onedrive and Dropbox. It's a case of research and take a risk . 🤞

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     Lori (lorimeyers@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:21:47 JST Lori

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     • Different Drummer

     @DifferentDrummer I didn't want to lose the photographs of people and pets that are gone. and my arts (pictures, videos, audio, text). it's basically that, but that's a LOT.

     and some books and documentaries about art too that are impossible to find/buy.

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     Different Drummer (differentdrummer@syzito.xyz)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:21:48 JST Different Drummer

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     @lorimeyers Basically, managing ones digital life is a thorough pain.

     Divesting from things we become addicted to is always difficult; I'd say the way some people are welded to their phones and influencers they're under a tighter grip than nicotine or heroin.

     We all just need one big EM pulse to reset our lives.

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     Lori (lorimeyers@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:22:31 JST Lori

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     • Cadu Silva :verified:
     • Linkzim

     @luiz_im @cadusilva o Google drive era assim mas ficou ruim e lento :(

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     Linkzim (luiz_im@bolha.us)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:22:32 JST Linkzim

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     • Cadu Silva :verified:

     @lorimeyers @cadusilva
     Se vc tiver com tempo (e dois pcs)
     Faz um teste.
     Instala em ambos faz uma pastinha "documentos" com um arquivinho dentro e veja a mágica acontecer.

     (Sempre o adendo que é uma big tech com uma cópia dos seus arquivos)

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     Lori (lorimeyers@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:29:47 JST Lori

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     • Different Drummer

     @DifferentDrummer yeah, the AI thing is scary. I mean the SALAMI thing is scary. :P

     I'll have to think more, try to find a solution.

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     Different Drummer (differentdrummer@syzito.xyz)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:29:48 JST Different Drummer

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     @lorimeyers Basically they open your stuff and share it; once it on their servers any of their staff can access it as they control the encryption. Beyond that it's too technical for me, but there seems to be a new problem every week somewhere in the world.

     Now there is also AI scraping, much newer, but it's still access to private data.

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     Lori (lorimeyers@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:33:39 JST Lori

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     • Different Drummer

     @DifferentDrummer I had a backup on a external drive, but it started corrupting the files in a way that took me a while to find out. I lost lots of pics and videos of my dog that passed. :(

     I'm almost considering making a cd backup. lol (never lost anything on my CDs, but I would need so many CDs)

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     Different Drummer (differentdrummer@syzito.xyz)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:33:41 JST Different Drummer

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     @lorimeyers Right, what I did, was wait until one of the big drive manufacturers had a sale and bought a large external back-up drive. 5TB. I have *everything* backed up on that. Every time I save something, I save it again to the files on that, that mirror all the other smaller drives combined.

     It's vulnerable because it's next to the actual PC, but in the event of a disaster - if I'm THERE - it can be grabbed and run with. Otherwise it's vulnerability is the same as anything else one has.

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     aracnus (aracnus@social.teia.bio.br)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:45:13 JST aracnus

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     @lorimeyers , eu uso o Nextcloud em uma VPS que fica na Alemanha. Mas somente para arquivos que eu realmente quero sincronizar entre máquinas que não estão na minha casa e meu celular.

     Agora se você só quer sincronizar essas coisas dentro da sua casa, dá pra montar um sistema de armazenamento (NAS) usando um computador velho, com um HD/SSD grandão e GNU/Linux. Na verdade nem precisa ser um computador, pode ser um Raspberry Pi mesmo.

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     Lori (lorimeyers@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:45:54 JST Lori

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     • aracnus

     @aracnus isso seria o ideal pra mim. (e talvez possa rolar, mas eu preciso aprender mto mais pra conseguir fazer)

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     Lori (lorimeyers@bolha.one)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:52:47 JST Lori

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     • Different Drummer

     @DifferentDrummer cds decay slower than dvds. but I can do both. CDs for the very important stuff and dvds for things I don't want to lose but won't cry for a week if they're lost. :P

     I even have a external cd/dvd drive that connects through usb. :P

     (I keep the media and the way to access it. I'm smort 🤓)

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     Different Drummer (differentdrummer@syzito.xyz)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 23:52:48 JST Different Drummer

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     @lorimeyers I bought a drum of 100 blank DVDs (also in a sale!). At 4.7 GB per disc for storage they can hold a lot. Essentially I burn stuff on there, write on each what it holds and put it in another (empty) drum, until it's full.

     As long as you keep the discs at the same temperature/relative humidity (same place as much as possible) and keep the light out (make sure the paper wrap is still on the drum, or make another one) they'll last a long time.

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     RGOU (rgou@ayom.media)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 00:52:48 JST RGOU

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     • Linkzim

     @luiz_im
     @cadusilva @lorimeyers

     Já usei Dropbox, uso o Mega há alguns. O Mega era mais rápido que o Dropbox (até quando comparei) e muito mais rápido que o Google Drive.

     Esquema de sinconizar pastinha, sem encrenca. Acho caro hoje comparando, mas confio então não mexo.

     Uso o Proton Drive (tenho uns poucos giga lá por conta do email) para uploads mensais de pastas sensíveis (backup).

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     Linkzim (luiz_im@bolha.us)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 00:52:49 JST Linkzim

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     • Cadu Silva :verified:

     @cadusilva @lorimeyers

     Pelo que vi, além do Dropbox esses serviços têm aplicativo pra Linux.

     - pCloud
     - MEGA
     - Cozy Cloud
     - icedrive

     Só posso falar do Dropbox (único que usei/uso) funciona bem e é intuitivo (mas na versão free só sinca 3 dispositivos)

     Seeee for pagar, acha um que cobre em Reais (DrooBox tem jeito de cobrar em reais comprando no app do celular) assim vc não fica presa na loucura do dólar.

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     RGOU (rgou@ayom.media)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 01:16:17 JST RGOU

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     @lorimeyers

     @luiz_im @cadusilva

     R$ 32,00 mensais na cotação do euro hoje, R$ 27,00 se pagar anual (desconto de dois meses). Por 400Gb

     https://mega.io/pricing

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     Lori (lorimeyers@bolha.one)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 01:16:18 JST Lori

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     • RGOU
     • Linkzim

     @rgou @luiz_im @cadusilva quanto é esse Mega?

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     aracnus (aracnus@social.teia.bio.br)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 02:30:17 JST aracnus

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     @lorimeyers se quiser, podemos conversar sobre isso. É menos complicado do que parece. Inclusive hoje a Contabo está com uma promoção de 4,05 euros mensais por uma VPS que é bem parecida com a que eu uso. A Contabo tem seus problemas de performance, mas pra esse tipo de coisa, dá numa boa.

     Ah, e temos um grupo de software livre aqui em BH que está parado há um tempo e precisando de dar uma agitada. Às vezes você anima entrar lá.

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     Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 10:03:08 JST Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

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     looks like a freedombox is what you're looking for
     
     your very own personal storage, instead of relying on someone else's foggy computers
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 20:03:57 JST 翠星石

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     • Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)
     @lxo @lorimeyers Unfortunately, freedombox has turned into nonfreedom box with the proprietization of Debian.
     
     Certain versions of owncloud (AGPLv3-or-later) or nextcloud (AGPLv3-only) appear to actually be free software, too bad they're a pain in the neck to install.
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     Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 14:49:48 JST Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

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     • 翠星石
     is that so? how unfortunate. I'd have thought the freedombox hardware wouldn't trigger the code added to debian to install blobs, because I figured it didn't require blobs. does it, really?
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 05-Dec-2024 16:57:51 JST 翠星石

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     • Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)
     @lxo >I'd have thought the freedombox hardware wouldn't trigger the code added to debian to install blobs, because I figured it didn't require blobs. does it, really?
     The Debian installer contains proprietary software and if you run that installer, the proprietary software installation script is getting run (with the only exception being if you pass a certain flag) - while it is true that no proprietary peripheral software will get installed if the script can't find any hardware that can use what's available, such script will install proprietary microcode if you run it in a VM that has an Intel or AMD CPU host for example.
     
     The installation instructions for generic hardware contains instructions to install Debian, but does not tell the user how to avoid such script; https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Hardware/Debian
     
     For the hardware for sale, that appears to be the A20 OLinuXino Lime 2 and pre-compiled images are included/offered; https://freedombox.org/download/a20-olinuxino-lime2/
     
     Reviewing freedombox-testing_latest_a20-olinuxino-lime2-armhf.img, the image actually appears to be free of proprietary software, but I'm not sure about this file;
     /lib/firmware/skl_hda_dsp_generic-tplg.bin
     
     It appears to be a configuration file that seems to be generated from a .conf file, but I'm not sure what it's for.
     
     
     Unfortunately, there is no dedication to freedom, as it does include images with proprietary software in them; https://freedombox.org/download/raspberrypi4b/ (at least they write "non-free-firmware", but "nonfree-software" should be written there).
     
     
     Thankfully it is possible to use freedombox in freedom, but the future of freedombox is unfortunately uncertain as Debian has gone proprietary and who knows what they'll do next (A lot of the supported hardware can run blobs, for example the Beaglebone Black and Debian could decide to include such proprietary 3D software (as it gives the convenience of adding accelerated 3D rendering))?
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     Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Friday, 06-Dec-2024 00:29:10 JST Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

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     • 翠星石
     thanks a lot for the info! yeah, the price of freedom is eternal attentiveness (vigilance is overrated ;-)
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