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   Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 06:37:40 JST Sick Sun
   you can hold it against me but I don't write down citations for everything I've ever learned through observation over the years and sometimes I draw conclusions about things from those observations. I will continue to plan based on what I've learned and I'll happily share it with you but I can't always rigorously defend it. At this point in my life a lot of it just runs on muscle memory, like "oh yeah I've heard that argument dozens of times over my life, it always actually ended up resulting in x" I didn't know ahead of time what lies I was going to see repeated a lot or how they turn out years later so I didn't document it all so I could regurgitate it to you on command when I was in my late 40s.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 06:41:59 JST Sick Sun

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     @mischievoustomato the older you get the more it's true. I remember thinking old people were stupid but they were right
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     Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra! (mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 06:42:00 JST Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra!

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     @sun i think a lot of people work this way
     t. works this way

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     Hyperhidrosis (hyperhidrosis@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 06:43:02 JST Hyperhidrosis

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     @sun Definition of
     
     >source: trust me
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 06:43:04 JST Sick Sun

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     @Hyperhidrosis yep
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     Del Rio Kun~ (zrdr_delrio@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 06:45:26 JST Del Rio Kun~

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     @sun only redditors and college professors care about citations
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     of nothing (apropos@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 06:50:35 JST of nothing

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     @sun have this very understandable excuse to source requests: "I stopped keeping track when I stopped believing that I could convince people by keeping track."
     and warning: "I won't mind if you don't agree with me me, but I'll take it an insult if you refuse to accept that this is really what I believe after some consideration, and that I can't be dislodged from it by some very superficial attacks."
     
     There's also an excuse to proselytizing peers: "the compulsion to go along with a consensus is reduced enormously when even one dissenter is encountered. I think I'm helping just by getting people to remember: oh, some people believe that, too."
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 06:51:59 JST Sick Sun

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     @apropos
     
     those were good.
     
     I need to do a better job of telling people that when I assert something you can take it or leave it, I'll add citations where I can but I'm not going to try hard to convince you if you don' want to believe it. yeah usually I'm just asserting that people with my opinions exist.
     
     I also have expectations for other people though. If you're my friend or friendly acquaintance I am not going to call you stupid for not believing me, if I didn't give you hard evidence you don't have to believe me at all. But please give me the benefit of the doubt that I'm not just making it up as I go along and that I have thought about it a lot and tried to synthesize all my experiences into a coherent belief system.
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     Not particularly hype for current thing??‍❤️‍?? (ytfoidlover1488@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 07:13:57 JST Not particularly hype for current thing??‍❤️‍??

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     @sun Source? Source? Source?
     Do you have a source on that?
     
     Source?
     
     A source. I need a source.
     
     Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.
     
     No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.
     
     You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.
     
     Do you have a degree in that field?
     
     A college degree? In that field?
     
     Then your arguments are invalid.
     
     No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.
     
     Correlation does not equal causation.
     
     CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.
     
     You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.
     
     Nope, still haven't.
     
     I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 07:15:22 JST Sick Sun

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     @YTFoidLover1488 holy shit it is infuriating when you give information that requires a tiny bit of knowledge synthesis or deriving probably consequences of X and the person just can't process it and then calls _you_ the idiot.
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     Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra! (mischievoustomato@mitra.taihou.website)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 07:27:31 JST Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra!

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     @sun @apropos i believe everything i read from people that i like

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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 07:32:40 JST Sick Sun

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     • Johnny Peligro, now on Mitra!
     @mischievoustomato @apropos there is one other thing I want that may be unreasonable, but if we're friends and I say somethingI have experienced personally you don't believe please just nod your head and give me the moral support before you treat me like I'm an unreliable source that has to be fact-checked. It really sucks emotionally when a friend second-guesses you. This is different than calling out a friend that is mistaken. I just mean extend me the friend courtesy of putting up with me when I'm possibly a dumbass.
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     deutrino (deutrino@mstdn.io)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 08:43:23 JST deutrino

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     @sun @apropos I pre-spend a nonzero amount of energy on storing away patience for when people act this way about insight I have developed into my own health and self-care. it's one thing when it's a debate about random internet facts, and quite another when it's about my actual lived experience and the great deal of effort I've put into optimizing that.

     for everything else, there's ArchiveBox, and the habit I'm nursing of archiving every half-relevant web page I view on any topic!

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     御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2024 17:14:31 JST 御園はくい

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     @apropos @sun "why would i dig up the source for you when you're just going to try to pilpul it so that the source doesn't count by your arbitrary standards"
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