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sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:06:27 JST sapphire
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@thatguyoverthere @Terry @0 @Hoss @Nudhul “wow this one server only talks to this one residential IP I wonder why”

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  Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:06:25 JST Blurry Moon
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  @0 @Terry @Hoss @Nudhul @thatguyoverthere @sapphire traffic correlation is often how tor people get caught. also, never use a vpn with tor
  
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  0 (https://pl.absolutelyproprietary.org/users/0)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:06:26 JST 0
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  @sapphire @Terry @Hoss @Nudhul @thatguyoverthere Sure hope they don't seize that VPS are have perfect MITM!
  
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  Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:09:23 JST Blurry Moon
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  @0 @Terry @Hoss @Nudhul @thatguyoverthere @sapphire not 100% but I am guessing the way this works is that the feds are getting data from nearly every ISP of when people are connected to known Tor relays.
  
  How you don't get caught: run your own Tor relay 24/7
  
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  0 (https://pl.absolutelyproprietary.org/users/0)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:09:24 JST 0
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  @sun @Terry @Hoss @Nudhul @thatguyoverthere @sapphire
  
  > What does that cost them.
  > Then don't be $x big of a problem.
  
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  Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:13:51 JST Blurry Moon
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  @Hoss @Terry @0 @Nudhul @thatguyoverthere @sapphire there's only really heat for running an exit node, where traffic comes out of. normal relays are just an on-ramp and routing.
  
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  Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:13:52 JST Hoss Delgado
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  >run your own Tor relay 24/7
  Most people aren't interested in that heat, including myself.
  
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  Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:15:18 JST Blurry Moon
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  @Hoss @0 @Nudhul @Terry @sapphire @thatguyoverthere I actually ran an exit node for like 8 years (I was banned from 4chan for life) but I don't recommend it, it's dangerous as fuck. I was running an exit relay and public wifi so I could experiment with traffic mixing.
  
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  Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:17:07 JST Blurry Moon
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  @Hoss @Terry @0 @Nudhul @thatguyoverthere @sapphire never do that except by hosting in a friendly data center, so they get the police visit, not your apartment
  
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  Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:17:08 JST Hoss Delgado
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  Ah yeah, that's what I was thinking of. Running an exit node sounds like a speedrun to get regular house calls from the feds.
  
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  Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:20:03 JST Blurry Moon
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  @mint @Terry @0 @Hoss @Nudhul @thatguyoverthere @sapphire unfortunately that is definitely a thing, there are retarded services that just list every relay as "tor server" and you get blocked. if you need tor that is your sacrifice
  
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  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:20:04 JST
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  @Hoss @Terry @0 @Nudhul @sun @thatguyoverthere @sapphire As long as it isn't an exit node, you should be fine, unless there are some schizo services that block non-exit relays in addition to that.
  
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  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:28:02 JST
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  @sun @Terry @0 @Hoss @Nudhul @thatguyoverthere @sapphire >never use a vpn with tor
  Midwit advice with no explanation of reasoning.
  
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  Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:28:02 JST Blurry Moon
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  @mint @Terry @0 @Hoss @Nudhul @thatguyoverthere @sapphire vpn will sell your traffic correlation traffic to the feds in a second. you're just paying for a mitm.
  
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  Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:29:33 JST Blurry Moon
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  @iceloops @0 @Hoss @Nudhul @Terry @mint @sapphire @thatguyoverthere that is all they are good for, if you use them for actual "privacy" from feds you are screwed.
  
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  iceloops (iceloops@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:29:34 JST iceloops
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  @sun @mint @0 @Hoss @Nudhul @Terry @sapphire @thatguyoverthere i think vpns are only good for things like geo restrictions and paying for things for cheap if you know how to do that stuff i don't
  
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  Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:32:17 JST Blurry Moon
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  @akko @Terry @0 @mint @Hoss @Nudhul @thatguyoverthere @sapphire I have no specific information about any ISP, my opinion is that you use them to get around geoip blocks and, if needed to prevent a private entity from correlating your source point
  
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  akko (akko@class.lunanova.dev)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:32:19 JST akko
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  @sun @Terry @0 @mint @Hoss @Nudhul @thatguyoverthere @sapphire genuine question, but what do you think of mullvad?
  
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  Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:34:35 JST Blurry Moon
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  @mint @Terry @0 @Hoss @Nudhul @thatguyoverthere @sapphire making your own wireguard on a cheap vps is imo the only valid option if you need to obscure your source. I just don't trust vpns to even be competent at protecting your data let alone trustworthy enough to not just hand it over
  
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  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:34:36 JST
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  @sun @Terry @0 @Hoss @Nudhul @thatguyoverthere @sapphire Then use one in jurisdiction that doesn't have fed cooperation agreements, or make your own on some cheapo VPS.
  
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  Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:35:22 JST Blurry Moon
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  @mint @0 @Hoss @Nudhul @Terry @sapphire @thatguyoverthere I straught up think that a bunch of them are probably run b y intelligence agencies
  
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  Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:37:26 JST Blurry Moon
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  @threat @Terry @0 @mint @Hoss @Nudhul @iceloops @thatguyoverthere @sapphire I don't know what the formal argument against vpn with tor is, mine is simply that I think a random vpn company is even less trustworthy with your tor traffic than your isp
  
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  тняэдт™ (threat@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:37:27 JST тняэдт™
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  @sun @Terry @0 @mint @Hoss @Nudhul @iceloops @thatguyoverthere @sapphire egress shift is about the only use-case one could justify. vpn with tor is a meme and doesn't really matter. its a topic that's been beaten to a pulp by every "expert" online.
  
  if a govt agency wants you, they're going to get you and you won't even see it coming. best preventive measures are to keep quiet and don't do dumb shit in the first place.
  
  i say this as someone theorizes dumb shit scenarios and also worked at airvpn/ivpn in the past.
  
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  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:37:41 JST
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  @sun @Terry @0 @Hoss @Nudhul @thatguyoverthere @sapphire There's been a chart that showed that a bunch of VPN brands, mostly those shilled via sponsorships, were owned by the same few companies, trying to find one right now.
  
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  тняэдт™ (threat@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:43:32 JST тняэдт™
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  @sun @Terry @0 @mint @Hoss @Nudhul @iceloops @thatguyoverthere @sapphire trust costs more than 5$/no imho. the argument well. its about shifting trust more or less and looking like everyone else. feel free to lookup tor stance on it and that balding cuck joepie.
  
  circling back to trust. the best friendships are based on mutual blackmail ive found. its why i have few ride or die people and the ones i do have its either we play nice and work together or both of us get nailed
  
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  Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:43:32 JST Blurry Moon
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  @threat @Terry @0 @mint @Hoss @Nudhul @iceloops @thatguyoverthere @sapphire I want to call that awful but it is pragmatic and time-tested policy by intel agencies themselves so
  
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  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:44:05 JST
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  @sun @0 @Hoss @Nudhul @Terry @sapphire @thatguyoverthere https://kumu.io/Windscribe/vpn-relationships
  Think that's the one.
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  тняэдт™ (threat@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:49:10 JST тняэдт™
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  @Hoss @Terry @0 @mint @Nudhul @iceloops @sun @thatguyoverthere @sapphire right. im much less edgelord in real life.
  
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  Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:49:11 JST Hoss Delgado
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  >its why i have few ride or die people and the ones i do have its either we play nice and work together or both of us get nailed
  Or at least those who walk away are not going to flip on you. I try to look at such relationships in more diplomatic terms.
  
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  @iceloops @Terry @0 @mint @Hoss @Nudhul @sun @thatguyoverthere @sapphire yes! please do. the more sites we have the better. besides all the dnm sites get pwned because of amateur operators who get caught up in the triangle of smoke™®©
  
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  @iceloops @Terry @0 @mint @Hoss @Nudhul @sun @thatguyoverthere @sapphire we have a lot of sites like that. its just nearly impossible to search and index. if you've heard of netstalking (not stalking a human being but finding interesting sites on networks and weird puzzles) tor is great for that. i have my own little corner with writing, art, pictures, etc. its sort of like a time capsule for me
  
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  @threat @Terry @0 @mint @Hoss @Nudhul @sun @thatguyoverthere @sapphire its like i thinking to make a website maybe of fediverse related stuff?
  
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  iceloops (iceloops@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:50:42 JST iceloops
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  @threat @Terry @0 @mint @Hoss @Nudhul @sun @thatguyoverthere @sapphire i think what sucks with tor is like the website its mostly just drug sites,fake hitmen and illegal porn. give me the fun sites like grandmas cookie recipe,the bible and maybe a edgy art website once in a while. because fun things are fun
  
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  Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:51:34 JST Fediverse Contractor
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  Do you think the feds are behind cloudflare?
  
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  @bot @Terry @0 @mint @threat @Hoss @Nudhul @iceloops @thatguyoverthere @sapphire you didn't ask me but it blows my mind that I guess people think that the feds wouldn't even try to subvert cloudflare. they literally broke into google's network extralegally, repeatedly, to get at people's data, you think they wouldn't try to get into cloudflare's network and be able to correlate your movement between a hundred million websites
  
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  @gentoobro @Terry @0 @mint @threat @bot @Hoss @Nudhul @iceloops @thatguyoverthere @sapphire they did that against their own rules, it was because the one of the guys on there was _mean_ to him. It's nice to know as a corporation that they are as capricious as their CEO having a grumpy morning.
  
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  gentoobro (gentoobro@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 08:55:32 JST gentoobro
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  The feds probably own Cloudflare. Remember, Cloudflare was the platform that decided to boot TDS off the internet for shits and giggles, the first salvo in the mass censorship war.
  
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  When did that happen, is there proof?
  
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  Idk, it's so you can't get ddos but I don't know how it works, seems sus imo.
  
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  @mint @Terry @0 @threat @Hoss @Nudhul @iceloops @thatguyoverthere @sapphire I have avoided i2p because afaik it never had a formal crypto review
  
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  @iceloops @Terry @0 @threat @Hoss @Nudhul @sun @thatguyoverthere @sapphire >give me the fun sites like grandmas cookie recipe,the bible and maybe a edgy art website once in a while
  That's about what I see on reg.i2p, buried among a bunch of blogs with one post made three years ago.
  
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  Doesn't it not matter since instances don't use it when they send stuff to each other? I remember crunklord or someone talking about that.
  
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  @Hoss @Terry @0 @bot @gentoobro @Nudhul @iceloops @sun @thatguyoverthere @sapphire there are a few. be prepared to open your wallet like the goatse picture
  
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  I know a lot of instances use Cloudflare these days, but I feel like it would be a betrayal of my users to subject this instance to the feds' MITM operation. Hopefully if we ever get subjected to sustained DDOS one day there will be better options available to me.
  
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  @Hoss @Terry @0 @threat @bot @gentoobro @Nudhul @iceloops @thatguyoverthere @sapphire someone once told me that 90% of it would go away if ISPs just egress-filtered obviously fake traffic with an origin-point not in that actual ISP's IP range.
  
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  I honestly agree with Jersh's conspiracy theory that there's more that could be done to kill DDOS attacks at the IETF level which are intentionally ignored because allowing the scourge to persist serves the interests of very powerful groups.
  
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  Yah, and i do actually respond to all the responses I get so it's less spammy. But google comes down hard and fast if it detects any sort of spam or you don't follow their guidelines.
  
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  Yeah, but it's not 100,000/hr. You have to be more careful and targeted with your spam, which greatly decreases the annoyance.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zH_nQDZ10k
  
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  gentoobro (gentoobro@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 09:18:24 JST gentoobro
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  Oh, it could all be stopped trivially, like how we deal with email spam. Any ISP that allows DDoS traffic gets de-peered. Done. DDoS gone.
  
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  Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Monday, 19-Aug-2024 09:18:24 JST Mr. Bacon
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  they key is to send less than 300 per hour using a full authenticated domain and a script to type the emails so it appears to be legitimate traffic.
  
  Sorry, im part of the problem.
  
  Also, it's not called "spam" - its a marketing campaign and its for business. sheesh.
  
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