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Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 09:15:58 JST Pleroma-tan
@yakumo_izuru @adiz as much as it's cool to have some instances on a root domain, i've heard it causes undocumented problems? idk hearsay speaking so -
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:verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶 (adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 09:15:57 JST :verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶
@kirby@lab.nyanide.com I don't know what problems it would cause, I can't see anything like that. But, I just think it's better practice to subdomain services and also allows for being able to spawn up multiple deployments if you fucked up. For example, if you've been federating with other servers for a while and severely screw your instance and lack any database backups you can't really re-deploy on the same domain otherwise you'll have mad federation problems. This instance (soc0) was actually meant to be a test instance but the idea was that any future revisions could just go up sequentially in number lol e.g. soc1, soc2... @yakumo_izuru@misskey.m544.net
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:verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶 (adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 10:56:24 JST :verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶
@Hoss@shitpost.cloud Lol here's how abandoned Nostr is of real people: I just found my own posts from a week ago federated on there via mostr.pub on the "Photography" search term. Just a few scrolls down and my week old posts are there. That tells me that basically nobody is on this network talking about anything. Digital ghost-town.
Virtually all of the content on Nostr, at least what I'm seeing, is Fediverse content being bridged in. We're (us, here, on the Fediverse) essentially populating the network with content for them.
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:verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶 (adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 10:56:25 JST :verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶
@Hoss@shitpost.cloud As a matter of protocol I really want to like Nostr. I'm actually surprised there aren't a ton of clients out there for it. But, again, it's widely unused and the culture/community is garbage. And the clients that do exist are trash. I just opened up a client to search for accounts to follow, searched for "photography" and "Fujifilm" as search terms......all results are Fediverse accounts, and all profiles therein I try to follow throw an error about unable to follow. It's just a broken, unutilized, janky protocol based on a good idea in theory but horrible execution with no population.
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Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 10:56:26 JST Hoss Delgado
I haven't had to deal with anything coming over the bridge yet, but people who have used Nostr say it's pretty bad. -
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:verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶 (adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 10:56:27 JST :verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶
@Hoss@shitpost.cloud Oh, yeah, I could easily see that being a Nostr thing.
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Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 10:56:28 JST Hoss Delgado
The CSAM epidemic seems to be the bigger problem at the moment. ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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:verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶 (adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 10:56:29 JST :verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶
@Hoss@shitpost.cloud Nostr would be a lot cooler if there were half-decent clients available for it and the community wasn't a bunch of crypto-bros.
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:verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶 (adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 10:56:30 JST :verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶
@Hoss@shitpost.cloud Yeah, I just don't know about Rebased's database. I would never have used Rebased/Soapbox and I suspect a large portion of the appeal behind it was solely Gleason's penchant for free speech, etc.. Because, really, it was kinda F-tier as far as instance softwares are concerned.
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Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 10:56:30 JST Hoss Delgado
It was fine until Jack lured Alex away from the Fediverse with the Nostr meme. -
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Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 10:56:31 JST Hoss Delgado
I like my domain too much not to host my instance on root. That's why if I have to migrate our shit off rebased I want to do it in a way that won't force me to move to a subdomain. -
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Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 10:58:13 JST Pissed Hippo
@Hoss @jeffcliff @mrsaturday @adiz I have experience with this. it isn't possible to make a perfect set of rules that never change for years and years, it's the same with hacking. one guy writing rules for his site isn't as smart or motivated as the pool of everyone looking for ways to exploit the rules -
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Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 10:58:14 JST Hoss Delgado
That's why I've never called my instance a "free speech" instance, as I believe the term has been too poisoned to comfortably identify with. I run a benevolent dictatorship where users are largely allowed to say what they want, but I reserve the right to crack down on anything I deem suspect with extreme prejudice at any time. -
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Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 10:58:15 JST Hoss Delgado
The persistent pedonigger problem was why I didn't stick around 8chan too long even during it's "golden age" despite thinking it was a really cool idea. -
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John Fediverse (mrsaturday@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 10:58:15 JST John Fediverse
@Hoss @jeffcliff @adiz I've seen the argument that its existence is a sign that you're truly free to say and do what you want on a site. I put that logic with the mayor of London saying trucks of peace are part and parcel of living in a major city. You can tolerate people speaking their mind while banning chomos with extreme and unflinching prejudice. In fact, it's a requirement to prevent feds and "activists" from poison pilling your site. -
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Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 10:58:16 JST Hoss Delgado
The problem is you're always going to have subversives trying to worm their way into authorities of "trust" to expand the definition of untrustworthiness beyond explicitly illegal content. -
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John Fediverse (mrsaturday@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 10:58:16 JST John Fediverse
@Hoss @jeffcliff @adiz I saw it happen over the course of years on 8chan. Masterchan chomos constantly concern trolling Hotwheels to expand his free speech morals to include CP. I'm not saying I agree with the direction he went in after 8chan, but I kind of get it after all of the "context-free anon" autism he dealt with all through the mid-2010s. The guy got brain-broken. -
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John Fediverse (mrsaturday@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 10:58:17 JST John Fediverse
@Hoss @adiz People have tried similar experiments in the past (there was an imageboard with a similar framework to Nostr, I think it was Zerochan) and they always turn into CP hives -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 10:58:17 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@mrsaturday @Hoss @adiz The more the decentralized social media experiment continues the more that something like a the web of trust seems to become important in determining who is worth interacting with. Pure context-free anons are almost too much trouble to even bother with -
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Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:00:18 JST Pissed Hippo
@mrsaturday @Hoss @adiz @jeffcliff the ultra pure you-have-to-allow-anything people are agonizing to deal with, I can't imagine having to deal with hundreds of them all on your ass -
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Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:03:52 JST Pissed Hippo
@Hoss @jeffcliff @mrsaturday @adiz yeah I hate to admit it but benevolent dictatorship where the dictator is also not a dumbass or a prig is the best -
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Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:03:53 JST Hoss Delgado
The only perfect set of rules is one where rules lawyering doesn't work, which is why my informal content policy is "Nothing illegal under US law, no loli, and I reserve the right to ban for any other justification". -
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Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:05:53 JST Pissed Hippo
@leyonhjelm @Hoss @jeffcliff @mrsaturday @adiz that's life -
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ランファン (leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:05:54 JST ランファン
@sun
Is great until the inevitable need for a transfer of power. Almost never get two good ones in a row
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Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:16:53 JST Pissed Hippo
@Hoss @adiz @jeffcliff @mrsaturday I struggled with this because I am rule-brained. consistent rules good because I got banned for arbitrary reasons on some forum in 1998 by a prick admin. well sometimes the problem isn't the rules the problem is the person in charge. sometimes the all you can say is "yes the two cases are structurally the same. but the difference is that I am right and you are wrong." it makes people really mad when you say this because they are stupid and only understand argument from analogy and for some reason can't apply context to see how they are different. dictator 1 is a shithead and bans people he disagrees with and threatens users constantly to stay on his good side. dictator 2 doesn't take things personally and removes users when they threaten the site regardless of an imperfect list of good and bad things -
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Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:17:47 JST Hoss Delgado
I'm also just not interested in hosting the Chris Tyson-esque creepazoids that allowing such content attracts. Pissed Hippo likes this. -
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John Fediverse (mrsaturday@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:17:48 JST John Fediverse
@Hoss @jeffcliff @sun @adiz I don't have a problem with loli because it's just proverbial pen meeting paper, but you'd have to really not have much to lose as an American to explicitly say "We're going to host this on my site", or have it on your site and not have a ton of other content so you can treat it as something that slips through the cracks. If you're in the US, there's just no way you can allow for it given the reality of the now. -
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Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:20:02 JST Pissed Hippo
@jeffcliff @Hoss @adiz @mrsaturday product of people that literally rules-lawyer God himself -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:20:03 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
@sun @Hoss @adiz @mrsaturday
> well sometimes the problem isn't the rules the problem is the person in charge.
This is the bridge that the talmud never crossed imo -
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Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:26:00 JST Pissed Hippo
@coolboymew @Hoss @adiz @jeffcliff @mrsaturday stay there long after you're unwelcome just to make them have to break their facade of fairness to ban you -
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Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:26:01 JST Hoss Delgado
Dark Fedi, rDrama and KF are the only places I know of where the waning flame of the old Internet still burns. -
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cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:26:01 JST cool_boy_mew
@Hoss @jeffcliff @mrsaturday @adiz I keep telling people to get the fuck out of Gamefaqs because Fandom is currently making it a corporate fascist regime lmao. They got some absolute fucking corporate tool going on about "trust and safety" talking to a userbase that's been there for 20 fucking years, which ironically we could get away with more shit when we were teenagers, and now the forums are completely neutered, and some of the old boards culture are completely dead now. Fandom was never going to "win" this, they're just accelerating the death of the site -
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cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:26:02 JST cool_boy_mew
@adiz @Hoss @mrsaturday @jeffcliff probably the most fun place on the net right now and we have the people -
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:verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶 (adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:26:03 JST :verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶
@mrsaturday@shitposter.world I think the Fediverse, imperfect and broken as it is, is still the best current viable and utilized model available for decentralized social media/networking. @Hoss@shitpost.cloud @jeffcliff@shitposter.world
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cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:34:46 JST cool_boy_mew
@sun @Hoss @adiz @jeffcliff @mrsaturday I've legit tried to do that by abusing any form I could while I was suspended for 3 months
I thought about account suicide but the state of affairs is just sad as fuck now, it's just completely neuteredPissed Hippo likes this. -
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Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:36:50 JST Hoss Delgado
Jimmy Wales doesn't want you to know this, but the MediaWiki software is free, you can take it home and make your own wiki for anything. I host 458 niche wikis. Pissed Hippo likes this. -
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Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:36:51 JST Owl
Fandom is utterly fucked in the means that it pander to entry-level hobbyists and even ideologues.
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:39:17 JST Fediverse Contractor
Right, fedi is obviously a huge success. Thanks for you dumb opinion. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:41:32 JST Fediverse Contractor
I am? -
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Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:41:33 JST Hoss Delgado
How come you ain't on Nostr anymore? -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:43:48 JST Fediverse Contractor
Not if you want to talk to ppl without tranny jannies getting in the way. Do you even understand how nostr is different? -
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:verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶 (adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:43:49 JST :verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶
@bot@seal.cafe It's kinda the best option out there.
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Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:46:53 JST Rusty Crab
@jeffcliff @Hoss @mrsaturday @adiz
>see jeff cliff post
>agree
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:46:57 JST Fediverse Contractor
So how is fedi better when you can't talk to most of fedi if you have any opinion that isn't absolutely retarded? -
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:verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶 (adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:46:58 JST :verified_2:防空識別區𝒔𝒐𝒄𝟶
@bot@seal.cafe Yes.
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 11:50:24 JST Fediverse Contractor
What if AI exterminated all tranny jannies? -
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cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 12:03:41 JST cool_boy_mew
@Owl @Hoss @jeffcliff @mrsaturday @adiz I keep saying it but Fandom was obviously a retarded organisation from the Wikia transformation
Only absolute fucking retards at this point would make a fandom wiki or even attempt to maintain the existing wikis due to the extreme low quality of the website, which should tell you everything about the management
There's a big reason why self-hosted wikis are usually amazing in comparison. There is 0 future in Fandom, as it stands it's completely staffed by corporate tools that doesn't understand shit from jack and the wikis are going to slowly implode from just having the absolute lowest quality userbase, that will constantly shit out the lowest quality wikis
Hilariously, for gamefaqs and such, corpo environment cannot coexist with Internet savvy capable people. Some of the best quality capable people I've generally seen around usually hung out in the edgy places -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 28-Jul-2024 12:03:41 JST Fediverse Contractor
Certified nerd post -
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(mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 29-Jul-2024 01:18:04 JST
@Hoss @kirby @yakumo_izuru @adiz I did it a while ago, should preserve all posts and everything.
https://ryona.agency/objects/13cd294a-a2b7-4d77-b179-4dcb16837c2fPleroma-tan likes this.
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