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   kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 02:09:56 JST kaia
   gotta buy some games before summer sales end? :fernshake:
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     Piggo :verified_horse: (piggo@piggo.space)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 02:11:47 JST Piggo :verified_horse:

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     @kaia there will be another sale like a month later anyway
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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 02:12:13 JST kaia

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     @piggo true. exact same prices too
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 02:12:39 JST 翠星石

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     @kaia You should not unless you can at least actually buy them (the only games you can actually buy on steam are the few ones under a free license - although it would be morally better to not help steam to profit from their proprietary schemes).
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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 02:13:09 JST kaia

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     @Suiseiseki how about GOG?
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 02:13:14 JST lainy

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     :drake_yes: buying games
     :drake_no: playing games
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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 02:13:50 JST kaia

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     @lain hey! I have played a lot of them! like at least 1/10th :cirno_help:
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     Trash Panda (raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 02:14:01 JST Trash Panda

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     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUo1PgKksgw

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     Trash Panda (raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 02:15:53 JST Trash Panda

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     Not a big difference in their eyes, it's still proprietary software.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 02:25:24 JST 翠星石

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     @raccoon Did I stutter?
     
     It's quite a big list even; https://libregamewiki.org/Main_Page
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     Trash Panda (raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 02:25:26 JST Trash Panda

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @kaia@brotka.st
     "You should get games from this extremely small list that you probably don't even like or quit your hobby".

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 02:28:04 JST 翠星石

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     @kaia gog is just as proprietary and has less free games (if any), although they don't generally allow some kinds of digital handcuffs.
     
     I remember correctly, they recently intentionally removed existing systemd/Linux support from their (proprietary) client and have gone windows-only.
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     :gif_pikachu_hi: (simx72@tkz.one)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 02:49:48 JST :gif_pikachu_hi:

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     @lain @kaia

     :drake_yes: playing games
     :drake_no: buying games

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 02:54:44 JST 翠星石

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     @raccoon When you remove the shit taste it turns out that most of them are pretty good (the same is true for everything).
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     Trash Panda (raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 02:54:45 JST Trash Panda

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
     Yeah but when you remove the shit tier games from the list you're left with little.

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     david (david@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 02:59:16 JST david

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     @kaia@brotka.st celeste

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     :apa: スプリットショックウイルス † (splitshockvirus@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 03:16:54 JST :apa: スプリットショックウイルス †

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     @dushman @anonicus @raccoon @Suiseiseki

     They're trash because Konami owns them

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     Dushman (dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 03:16:56 JST Dushman

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest @anonicus@shitposter.world
     Weapons grade copium. There are good foss games, but most of them are just half assed clones of stuff that already existed. Are you really gonna tell me games like Metal Gear Solid 3 for example are trash just cuz they're proprietary?

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 03:20:04 JST 翠星石

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     @rain Supertuxkart, minetest, xmoto, hedgewars, powermanaga, tecnoballz, supertux2, extreme tux racer, ultimate stunts, vdrift, speed-dreams-2, GNUjump, GNU liquid war, Xonotic (offline), mars-game, xbill (and xlennart variant), orbital eunuchs sniper, the games in Emacs (tetris and snake are the best), Emilia pinball, gltron, I have no tomatoes, taisei and many more I can't remember right now.
     
     All fine games and all freedom respecting.
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     Rain (rain@melonbread.dev)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 03:20:05 JST Rain

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     @Suiseiseki @raccoon Which ones are your favorite from this list? What do you recommend?
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     david (david@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 03:21:08 JST david

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @kaia@brotka.st I will use proprietary software cry about it

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     The Great Ape (Hollow Squad) (thegreatape@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 03:21:18 JST The Great Ape (Hollow Squad)

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     @kaia@brotka.st rainbow six Vegas 2 is one of my fav games and on sale

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     :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: (allison@hidamari.apartments)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 03:25:06 JST :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans:

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     @dushman @anonicus @raccoon @Suiseiseki most foss games are consumate trash, either glorified tech demos or bland design by committee affairs, no sovl to them at all
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     Dushman (dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 03:25:07 JST Dushman

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     @anonicus@shitposter.world @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
     
     He is

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     [Anonicus] (anonicus@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 03:25:08 JST [Anonicus]

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     @Suiseiseki @raccoon I feel like this is just grasping at the straws at this point tbh.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 03:29:03 JST 翠星石

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     @dushman GNU/Jihad against "FOSS"!
     
     Free clones are great, as it allows people to enjoy what such games had to offer without surrendering their freedom - although many clones are left at a "good enough" state, many become functionally better than the original.
     
     I haven't played that proprietary game, so I don't know if it's any good or not, but can you truly enjoy a game if it doesn't respect your freedom and community?
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     Rain (rain@melonbread.dev)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 03:29:18 JST Rain

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     @Suiseiseki Thank you for sharing there are a few on this list I have not tried!
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     Surströmming (selfhost arc) (xian@ak.kazuma.family)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 03:38:19 JST Surströmming (selfhost arc)

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     @kaia i ask myself this every sale, but it feels like i would just pile them on my backlog :koishicomf:
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     :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: (allison@hidamari.apartments)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 03:41:38 JST :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans:

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     @hor32 @dushman @anonicus @raccoon @Suiseiseki those tend to fall under "design by committee", even if not in fact, then certainly in spirit (I class most foss riffs off more popular proprietary games this way)
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     hor32@hollow.raccoon.quest's status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 03:41:39 JST hor32

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     @allison@hidamari.apartments @dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest @anonicus@shitposter.world @raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com or yet another quake 3 clone

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     GNU Too (gnu2@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 03:43:47 JST GNU Too

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     "systemd/Linux" may be the best take I've seen on the current state of Free Software on the Desktop in a long time.
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     @PurpCat @Suiseiseki @dushman @raccoon @hor32 @anonicus well in that case the aesthetics of the game matter relatively little and the technical fidelity matters a lot, so it plays to the strengths of foss (same thing with stuff like beatoraja and unnamed-sdvx-clone)
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 03:45:54 JST Pawlicker

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     @allison @Suiseiseki @dushman @raccoon @hor32 @anonicus imagine not playing clone hero and getting to play songs like sicko mode (gay version)
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     [Anonicus] (anonicus@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 03:47:33 JST [Anonicus]

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     @Suiseiseki @dushman Does this mean I can't enjoy a song if I don't have the stems for each instrument playing? Or if I can't enjoy an anime if I don't have all of the cel frames or the file that has the source frames, voices, etc that are all spliced into separate files? At this point, games are an entertainment, they maybe be software but the whole purpose is just to be entertained, its not something where I'm going out of my way and do any kind of work on. I mean shit I just pirate my games and run them through Lutris.
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     @lispi314 @Suiseiseki @dushman @raccoon @anonicus Doom was originally proprietary and the assets are still proprietary, it was made as a commercial game to commercial standards of quality with the intention of commercial renumeration, and it succeeded at being a quality game because of these factors and because of the *taste* the original designers had (taste is a hard thing to quantify, but without it, you are always going to be lost when it comes to making worthwhile games)
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     LisPi (lispi314@udongein.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 03:50:21 JST LisPi

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     @allison @anonicus @raccoon @dushman @Suiseiseki *Looks at Doom*
     
     Don't know about souls but there's a lot of hellspawn to shoot.
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     @lispi314 @Suiseiseki @dushman @raccoon @anonicus 100% agreed, and I'm very strongly in favor of emulation for console, arcade, and old home computer games for the same reasons
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     LisPi (lispi314@udongein.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 04:01:50 JST LisPi

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     @allison @anonicus @raccoon @dushman @Suiseiseki Doom is also an example of how end-of-life for a game should (mostly) go.
     
     It shouldn't just become abandonware that will inevitably break as the years go on.
     
     Once the money to be made has been made, release it all to the community.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 04:05:22 JST 翠星石

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     @anonicus >Does this mean I can't enjoy a song if I don't have the stems for each instrument playing?
     A song is merely a sequence of sound frequencies and if you have the actual sound file - there is nothing but copyright law that stops you from changing the song with ffmpeg and/or sharing copies to your neighbor.
     
     >Or if I can't enjoy an anime if I don't have all of the cel frames or the file that has the source frames, voices, etc that are all spliced into separate files
     A video is merely a sequence of frames with optionally a synchronized audio or subtitles - there is nothing but copyright law that stops you from changing video, audio and subtitles with ffmpeg and/or sharing copies to your neighbor.
     
     >At this point, games are an entertainment, they maybe be software but the whole purpose is just to be entertained, its not something where I'm going out of my way and do any kind of work on.
     Just because you personally may not currently want to do something doesn't mean it's legitimate to deny such freedoms for everyone.
     
     A game cannot feasibly be modified without the source code and depending on how the game formats its data, control over the format handling software may be required to work out how the data is formatted.
     
     I may not always want to modify a game (I sometimes actually do want to with certain free software games and carry out some modifications), but I may want to compile it from source so it runs on GNU/Linux natively without having to run it through wine.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jul-2024 04:18:01 JST 翠星石

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     @allison There is freed∞m now, which is the free DOOM engine combined with free artwork and levels.
     
     Referring to the game art etc as "assets" devalues them to the next level.
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     @Suiseiseki "assets" is a term of art used in this context for the parts of a game that are typically expected to be proprietary/monetized regardless of whether the game engine is foss or not, if there's a better all encompassing term please suggest it
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     kittynunu (kittynunu@mastodon.nu)'s status on Sunday, 14-Jul-2024 15:02:28 JST kittynunu

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     @Suiseiseki @rain
     > taisei
     Taisei Project is one of the best free software games I've ever played!

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     @pernia @Suiseiseki @dushman @raccoon @anonicus Tromi is FOSS, Dr. Robotnik's Ring Racers is FOSS, Xonotic is FOSS, there are definitely good FOSS games around but I would not expect the likes of Suiseiseki to be able to name any of them
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     þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jul-2024 03:12:02 JST þernia

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     @allison @Suiseiseki @dushman @raccoon @anonicus i love how the suisukei nigger is too numb from his own farts to see actual cool foss games
     
     osu is foss. cortex command is also foss. this dude is a complete piece of shit gnunigger
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jul-2024 03:25:46 JST 翠星石

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     @allison I named xonotic, I'm not sure what you're on about.
     GNU/Jihad against "FOSS"!!!
     
     Of course all the software you named has freedom issues.
     
     - The licensing on Tromi is very sloppy, so I can't say it's free and they've gone and it appears that they've ripped sound effects from NES Tetris and SiIvaGunner music, which cannot legally be distributed.
     - The GNU/Linux version of Dr. Robotnik's Ring Racers should be free software as it seems to be based on SRB2, although I'm not too sure and I'll need to inspect to make sure - although the windows version of SRB2 contained proprietary software last time I checked.
     - Xonotic is free software under the GPLv3-or-later although software under unknown licenses is arbitrarily loaded in the online mode.
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     @Suiseiseki Huh? Are you sure you're looking at the same Tromi? https://invidious.uknow.moe/watch?v=8N_s98WWeLQ all the sound effects were obtained off freesound.org AFAIK and none of them are from nestris (some TGM clone games use imitation sounds created by tepples in Famitracker to mimic the TGM piece sounds, but Tromi isn't one of them). There *were* issues with copyright in earlier versions (the music in version 1 and the font in versions before 2.4) but those have all been fixed now.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jul-2024 03:39:34 JST 翠星石

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     @allison What I found via emerge --search and a web search was a game called generic-tetromino-game.
     
     I don't see see much difference to Emacs tetris gameplay-wise, although the backgrounds are fancy.
     
     According to the page Tromi is free software under the GPLv3-or-later, but I shall check the source code.
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     @Suiseiseki It was distantly based on a tetromino game engine called Cambridge which is licensed under MIT, but all of mycophobia's original code is GPLv3 and thus the game overall is.
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     @Suiseiseki And yeah generic-tetromino-game is a nestris clone that includes infringing assets, I have no idea how the dev gets away with it tbh (probably just obscurity). As for how Tromi is different, actually well thought out rotation system, speedcurve, defined ending, piece randomizer, scoring system, it's basically nothing like Emacs Tetris (which in the past was BPS rotation memoryless randomizer and nowadays is SRS 7-bag for whatever reason???? Literally one of the worst choices they could have made if you ask me)