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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 13:38:28 JST BowserNoodle ☦️ Banana for scale -
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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 14:48:39 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ @BowsacNoodle Did you hear BroNat says he’s running for President, 2028 ? I don’t know if this holds for Greek Catholics, but I’m pretty sure monastics (even novices) aren’t allowed to pursue public office.
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Deplorable Degenerate (deplorable_degenerate@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 14:48:46 JST Deplorable Degenerate He stands a chance, the only Jews that have ever been elected were self loathing. BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 14:50:00 JST BowserNoodle ☦️ @KingOfWhiteAmerica I don't think I've ever looked into it, but I think there was some type of prohibition. I thought brother Nathaniel wasn't ordained and was just a based converted former jew. -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 14:51:03 JST BowserNoodle ☦️ @berkberkman naturally. two very Irish people right there -
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Berkeley Berkman (berkberkman@bae.st)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 14:51:04 JST Berkeley Berkman @BowsacNoodle This statue is in Ireland, btw. -
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Deplorable Degenerate (deplorable_degenerate@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 17:47:55 JST Deplorable Degenerate Most mass jew lynchings started when a jew started feeling guilty and let the goyim know. From Spain to Germany to Russia to the Middle East, it almost always began with "You know they're fucking your children, right?" BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 17:47:56 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ @Deplorable_Degenerate @BowsacNoodle I‘m not sure but that a deepwater hyper-jew winning the White House on a White Nationalist platform would accidently the whole Matrix. Division-by-zero error or something.
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Semilexic (epictittus@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 22:41:17 JST Semilexic @KingOfWhiteAmerica @BowsacNoodle Imho bans on running for public office are issued by the church to insulate itself from danger by a hostile government, and can be rescinded at will by the patriarch. Even if there is a "ban", minor clergy would just need a letter of permission, only major clergy (deacon and up) and monastics would be seriously restricted.
He is a novice, which I believe is monastic side, acolyte is clergy equivalent. Novices have no standing, and if they exibit a lack of humility it is a negative sign, so Im surprised hes not kicked out yet due to the videos. I dont think running for office shows hes ready for a monastery either. All that would happen is his abbot would ask him to stop, and if he doesnt, he would lose novice standing. He can resume novice standing once he corrects, it has no penalty for failure. Now.... if the Abbott wants him to run for public office.... then that Abbott might be in serious trouble, but Nathaniel would not be.
Also this is ROCOR, they are an odd anomaly and not really how a church should be run. They are under Moscow Patriarchate, but functionally are permitted to run independently. It is only taken seriously because its existence is considered temporary and so far they havent stepped on any toes.BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 22:41:18 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ @BowsacNoodle @epictittus I can’t vouch for ROCOR, but you might know; do they allow Novices to pursue public office ? I’d think it would have to result in some sort of “suspension”.
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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 22:41:25 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ @epictittus @BowsacNoodle That sounds reasonable enough; probably not a huge liability either way at the Novice level.
I’m approaching it from an “eidos” level, wherein I‘d think any somewhat-reasonable Abbot with the least traditional Phronema would immediately recognize the intense and visible conflict of interest between Orthodox monastic habit and 21st Century American Presidential election.
I know if somebody told me he’s an Orthodox monk running for President, I’d be strongly tempted to conclude he’s likely quite clueless about what one or the other actually entails.BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 22:43:38 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ @Appalachian_Crusader @epictittus @BowsacNoodle It could very well be that he’s exactly the kind of guy Our Lord intends to be a lifelong Novice. It’s not to knock the guy by any stretch. I think it’s an interesting development, to say the least !
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 22:43:38 JST BowserNoodle ☦️ @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Appalachian_Crusader @epictittus I agree with this. His 'enthusiasm' exposed a ton of edgelords to Orthodoxy back before it was cool. It's pretty wild how things work out sometimes. -
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Appalachian Crusader (appalachian_crusader@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 22:43:39 JST Appalachian Crusader @KingOfWhiteAmerica @epictittus @BowsacNoodle I've only watched a smattering of Bro. Nathaniel here and there, but he very much seems like an Orthodox memester. I'm happy he found Orthodoxy, but he seems to use his position more for publicity than actual monastic humility. -
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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 23:11:16 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ @BowsacNoodle @Appalachian_Crusader @epictittus Verily; I caught wind of BroNat in “conspiracy circles” some years before Orthodoxy had even occurred to me as a possibility. After my “official” Inquiry had started, the first I heard was loud denunciation of him from certain popular Facebook OrthoBros - trying to distance themselves from such “antisemitism”. I already knew vaguely who he was by that point. -
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Appalachian Crusader (appalachian_crusader@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 23:11:16 JST Appalachian Crusader @KingOfWhiteAmerica @BowsacNoodle @epictittus Yeah, he has this weird nebulous space. I've noticed "far right" guys distance themselves from him because of his pre-conversion jewish background. If he's getting guys into Orthodoxy though I really can't fault the man.
The more Orthodox people I watch online though the more I see that there are some small divisions, where they might recognize the other party as Orthodox, but they don't really associate with them. For instance, I didn't realize until recently that one of my favorite guys to listen to, Abbot Tryphon, is basically disavowed by Ancient Faith because of his "political views".BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 23:15:45 JST BowserNoodle ☦️ @Appalachian_Crusader @KingOfWhiteAmerica @epictittus Sort of fits with the patriarchal model imo. There's not some expectations of complete uniformity or agreement, but we can respect differences without having to pretend a whole Church is lost simply for having a goofball in their midst. I wish this was a more common perspective across modern Christendom.
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