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I got the "nobody wants to work" spiel secondhand from a family member last night; apparently one of my cousins can't find employees for her business, to the point that she is keeping a guy on that she wants to fire for stealing because she can't replace him
I didn't talk to her directly but the claim is her employees can be making $150k in a few years and she's willing to train. there are probably tens of thousands of good people in her area who would jump on such an opportunity, so there's a huge disconnect here, and there has to be something fundamentally wrong with her hiring process
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@monkyyy @deprecated_ii saying "we will only hire from underrepresented groups" or "only women applications" are unambiguously NOT LEGAL* in the USA but the Justice Department will simply not prosecute complaints.
* You can say "we encourage underrepresented groups to apply for this position" but you cannot exclude people
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@deprecated_ii its everyones hiring process, interviews are a filter for conman, resumes are rapidly approaching that as well. Add in civil right law being actively misapplied for racial quotas and not something autistic but real like hiring by iq test. Theres a perfect storm of terrible design of whats already a hard problem, knowing who to trust and who's competent when you have maybe an hour to learn.
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@Patricles @DireGoy @deprecated_ii Companies will post fake job listings because job listings are considered a measure of health of a corporation even though they can be trivially faked.
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@DireGoy my best conjecture is all these businesses outsourced their recruiting pipeline to third parties and those third parties are just blocking 95% of applications from ever reaching the businesses, either through incompetence (idiotic requirements) or malice (filtering out white men)
that applies to the businesses that really are trying to hire. a lot of businesses are posting fake listings and even doing multiple rounds of interviews with no intent to hire
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@deprecated_ii @DireGoy I believe you, but for the life of me I cannot think of a reason a company would post job openings and conduct interviews with no intent to hire. Is it just to give their HR team something to do? Are they just seeing what is out there in the talent pool?
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@deprecated_ii I'm seeing claims of labor shortages yet at the same time people saying they put in applications everywhere and never get interviews.
someone's bullshitting
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@sun @Patricles @DireGoy @deprecated_ii here's the video you uploaded last time the subject came up
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@skylar @teto @deprecated_ii @nugger germans are just poor people larping as rich but frugal
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@skylar @deprecated_ii @nugger I dont know how americans spend their money but these anecdotes are mostly stinginess. And after jews germans are the stingiest people, if we dont count the swiss seperately. Doesnt mean the swiss are poor. Also AC is not needed for 95% of the year here.
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@teto @deprecated_ii @nugger i will never understand the european mindset where that 5% of the year just doesn't matter for some reason
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@teto @deprecated_ii @nugger well for starters, your energy prices are absurd to the point where europeans think it's reasonable to spend summer without AC or put on a coat ~inside~ during the winter or walk to the store rather than driving
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@teto @deprecated_ii @nugger you and many other europeans have made it sound like an unpleasant place to live
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@skylar @deprecated_ii @nugger can you name an example?
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@teto @deprecated_ii @nugger ewwww no i don't want to be european
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@skylar @deprecated_ii @nugger I dont get the logic of that at all.
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@skylar @deprecated_ii @nugger maybe it's time for white people to come back to europe. We literally have more jobs than people and they dont have "only hire niggers" policies here
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@deprecated_ii the disconnect between you and the american I talk to on discord with is so huge I think it might just be a you problem.
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@teto @deprecated_ii WELL I TALKED TO AN AMERICAN ON DISCORD AND HE TOLD ME THERE WERE NO JOBS ANYWHERE
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@nugger @teto @deprecated_ii the only job left is discord groomer and they won't hire any of us with an adult woman fetish
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@teto @skylar @deprecated_ii @nugger not you in particular, just germans in general
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@lain @skylar @deprecated_ii @nugger IM NOT POOR
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@teto @skylar @deprecated_ii @nugger whatever
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@lain @skylar @deprecated_ii @nugger the irish arent exactly known for being rich either, just the people who live there for tax evasion
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@SKracket @nugger @DireGoy my impression is every individual HR drone/recruiter is just making up their own standards as they go along, rooted in their own personal biases and experiences
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@DireGoy @deprecated_ii RETARD HIRING PRACTICES
NOBODY SITS DOWN AND WRITES JOB REQUIREMENTS OUT, THEY GO BY INDUSTRY STANDARD, WHICH IS
"HAVE X DEGREES, Y YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, THIS LIST OF SKILLS PLUS THESE KEYWORDS MENTIONED IN THE RESUME AND COVER LETTER, IF CONDITIONS ARE MET THE APPLICATION PASSES THE FILTER AND IS REVIEWED BY A HUMAN"
THERE ARE APPLICANTS, THEY CAN'T GUESS THE FILTER PREREQS AND NEVER GET TO THE HUMAN STAGE, UNTIL THEY JUST GIVE UP
SOME EMPLOYERS, I ASSUME, DO THIS THEMSELVES
MOST RELEGATE HIRING TO SOME SORT OF SERVICE LIKE INDEED OR AN AGENCY
EVERYONE IS LOOKING AT WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING
THIS HAD OVER THE PAST FOUR DECADES LEAD TO GRADUAL ONE-UPSMANSHIP IN JOB LISTINGS AND REQUIREMENTS
AFTER COVID THE CAMEL'S BACK IS PULVERIZED INTO DUST
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yeah pretty much. and also, the managers don't understand that this is going on and is why they cant find workers.
i know a guy who manages a department in a grocery store. his daughter tried to get a part time position in the same company and never made it to the humans because she's had 3 jobs in 5 years. he went to his boss and his boss got on the line with hr and told them to hire her, the boss didnt know hr was screening people that way, which is absolutely asinine in the grocery business.
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@deprecated_ii @SKracket @nugger @DireGoy note that for "personal biases and experience" you can substitute "what the TV told me" since most of them are middle age women
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